It seems like most of the complaints about the xc60 on this site are about the T8. When you look at all the issue's the T8 is having with erad and all the other agitation isn't a t6 a better value in the long run ? OK you got your tax credit on the t8 but in the long run is it even worth it ? Volvo has always been known as a car that goes the distance. My 05 s40 has 294k miles and runs like new. My 21 xc60 t6 51k miles not a single issue.
Gregd
I'm sure the T8 can last pretty long, considering I still see first-generation Toyota Priuses around town. My T6 lasted until 60k before it started encountering some issues, but in the end, I heavily believe the T8 can last pretty long (so long as no maintenance items are skipped or preventative things are done in the right order).
58000 miles 2020 xc60 T8 PE here. Not a single mechanical problem yet. A couple of cosmetic issues solved by warranty during regular maintenance.
I don’t babying this car. Constantly 85-90mph cruising for 5+hours and 130+ on straight free way if I don’t see any other cars nor cops
Vehicles made during mid-covid era may have some build quality issues based on my loaner experiences
I don’t babying this car. Constantly 85-90mph cruising for 5+hours and 130+ on straight free way if I don’t see any other cars nor cops
Vehicles made during mid-covid era may have some build quality issues based on my loaner experiences
What "issues with the ERAD" are you referencing? I haven't seen any evidence for widespread ERAD failures.
You don't get a tax credit for buying an T8 right now.
As for the T6, I'm assuming you mean the twin FI engine. The reliability of an engine that has both SC and Turbo is unknown at this point because there are basically no other vehicles on the road with that combination. And, 51K miles without a problem is not much to go on. First of all, you're just one owner. And, second, most vehicles can go the first 50K miles without serious problems.
I had a T6. It was reasonably reliable except for those annoying fuel filler neck failures. It did have a rattle in the ceiling area when I turned it in, but it mostly did OK. I really enjoyed the vehicle, despite the stiff ride quality and annoyances associated with SENSUS.
My T8 has been about the same. I had a failure in the high voltage heater, like everybody else here. Otherwise, its been no more and no less reliable than my T6.
To some extent, this is a moot point becasue the old T6 isn't even a thing anymore. ...
You don't get a tax credit for buying an T8 right now.
As for the T6, I'm assuming you mean the twin FI engine. The reliability of an engine that has both SC and Turbo is unknown at this point because there are basically no other vehicles on the road with that combination. And, 51K miles without a problem is not much to go on. First of all, you're just one owner. And, second, most vehicles can go the first 50K miles without serious problems.
I had a T6. It was reasonably reliable except for those annoying fuel filler neck failures. It did have a rattle in the ceiling area when I turned it in, but it mostly did OK. I really enjoyed the vehicle, despite the stiff ride quality and annoyances associated with SENSUS.
My T8 has been about the same. I had a failure in the high voltage heater, like everybody else here. Otherwise, its been no more and no less reliable than my T6.
To some extent, this is a moot point becasue the old T6 isn't even a thing anymore. ...
ERAD failures have been occurring like crazy since 2015. Not sure where you’ve been. But don’t my take my word for it though.
XC90 T8 - MY2017 - Already new ERAD - failing again
Hi all, Just to make everybody a little wiser, here my newest experience. I'm driving a XC90 T8 - MY2017 (early MY2017). I bought it brand new in november 2016. In december 2018, the ERAD (v1) started failing. They replaced it in january 2019 under warranty (coulance, it actually was out of...
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ERAD Replacement and reliability of new ERADs
Hello, Recently Volvo service replaced the ERAD on my 2016 XC90 T8. I would like to know the reliability of the new ERADs? Did any once replace the ERAD multiple times? Or anyone replaces ERAD on newer model XC90 T8s? Thanks.
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I may have a 2021 T8 XC90 with a bad ERAD
I know it some folks older models they've mentioned that the clutch in the ERAD went bad and needed replacing. Well I have now experienced 1 time where while in Pure mode and trying to reverse than car would hesitate and not move backwards and roll back. I had to switch to Hybrid and have the...
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2022 xc60 extended range inscription express erad failure
I drove two hours to a dealership in my state that had the brand new 2022 plug in hybrid xc60 in stock. I test drove the car and noticed the braking felt off and resistant. I asked the sales rep about it and was told that feeling was due to the regenerative braking in hybrid mode. So, I...
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2020 T8 ERAD issue
Since buying the car three weeks ago, noticed an odd steady noise when turning right or left. Thought it was tire road noise from low tire pressure, or the tires themselves, but proper inflation did not resolve... Took to dealer and they told me there is a recall on the 2018 and 2019 ERAD but...
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T8 E-rad failures and other issues - owner experiences...
Hi everyone, I’m on my second T8 which is a 2017 model. It was a replacement from Volvo for all the problems we had with our original 2016 model. The problem is that this one hasn’t been much better. We’ve had a lot of problems with it and have only done 39000 miles, and most recently it’s...
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I’d like to see a T8/recharge that has exceeded 100k miles. Then I’d like to see one that has exceeded 100k miles without having the ERAD replaced, the high voltage coolant heater replaced, ghost CEL’s, or went beyond 20k miles without replacing the tires.
Coming from a guy who had a T6’s long block engine replaced at 55k miles, and a 2020 T6 dealer buy back…
Coming from a guy who had a T6’s long block engine replaced at 55k miles, and a 2020 T6 dealer buy back…
I just picked up a 2022 non extended range T8 and i sure hope to god that its not a major issue. When I looked at the Erad issues (the night AFTER I bought it), it looks to be more early models and XC90s. Good news is that I have the factory warranty for 2 years plus an extra year due to it being certified. Lemon laws are a major pain for the mfgs. They usually settle before it gets to that.
I believe to use it like it was intended. I haven't yet started to daily drive it but I have done about 250 miles and most of that was on the battery. I was able to get almost 30 miles on the freeway before the engine fired. Then I made a trip to see my Dr and that was 28 miles of surface street. I floor it all the time in pure mode from lights.
If you want to talk about unreliable... look up 2017-2019 Ford Escapes with the 1.5L 4 banger. My work uses these "POS"s and I think we are almost 100% failure of both the transmissions and the engines. My first 2016 Ford Escape tranny went at 86K and then then the motor went at 110K. It cost the leasing company $13K for both for a car that is worth $10K tops. Ford wont even give you a loaner as a final kick in the teeth.
FIngers crossed with my T8....
Ken
P.s. The T8 should last longer than than the T6, on paper. With the Electric only taking up miles that engine would normally have to take care of. But I question how bad it is for the ICE to fire and being underload with it being properly warm.
I believe to use it like it was intended. I haven't yet started to daily drive it but I have done about 250 miles and most of that was on the battery. I was able to get almost 30 miles on the freeway before the engine fired. Then I made a trip to see my Dr and that was 28 miles of surface street. I floor it all the time in pure mode from lights.
If you want to talk about unreliable... look up 2017-2019 Ford Escapes with the 1.5L 4 banger. My work uses these "POS"s and I think we are almost 100% failure of both the transmissions and the engines. My first 2016 Ford Escape tranny went at 86K and then then the motor went at 110K. It cost the leasing company $13K for both for a car that is worth $10K tops. Ford wont even give you a loaner as a final kick in the teeth.
FIngers crossed with my T8....
Ken
P.s. The T8 should last longer than than the T6, on paper. With the Electric only taking up miles that engine would normally have to take care of. But I question how bad it is for the ICE to fire and being underload with it being properly warm.
What "award" are you talking about? Its also not "pretty proven" in that there are relatively few T6 drivetrains without a lot of miles on them. The actual data on the long-term reliablity of the SPA engines (in sources like CONSUMER REPORTS) is actually quite bleak.
About discussion above, ERAD failures WITH A DIFFERENT ERAD THEN THE CURRENT XC60 - in past XC90s are not definitive of anything. That's also not data - anecdotal reports on a chat board are notoriously unreliable.
The only real data I see on the issue relates again to Consumer Report's broad analysis of PHEVs vs. BEVS and ICE vehicles. In general, CR finds PHEVs to be more trouble prone than any other class of vehicle. I can't say if that will hold for Volvos but, frankly, the reliability of all modern Volvos is suspect. My GUESS (note, that unlike our friend above, I'm not making definitive conclusions that I can't support with anything other than my opinion) is the least complicated Volvos (T5, B5) will hold up better than the best of the model line but I have little hope for the dual FI or PHEV models - too complex.
Personally, I say think long and hard about owning any of the modern VOLVOs long term. I'm not worried about ERAD failures but the plastic parts, mechanical complexity, vulnerable electronics, all lead to a vulnerable vehicle. If you're going to keep any vehicle for that long, I'd honestly stick with a much less complex drivetrain.
About discussion above, ERAD failures WITH A DIFFERENT ERAD THEN THE CURRENT XC60 - in past XC90s are not definitive of anything. That's also not data - anecdotal reports on a chat board are notoriously unreliable.
The only real data I see on the issue relates again to Consumer Report's broad analysis of PHEVs vs. BEVS and ICE vehicles. In general, CR finds PHEVs to be more trouble prone than any other class of vehicle. I can't say if that will hold for Volvos but, frankly, the reliability of all modern Volvos is suspect. My GUESS (note, that unlike our friend above, I'm not making definitive conclusions that I can't support with anything other than my opinion) is the least complicated Volvos (T5, B5) will hold up better than the best of the model line but I have little hope for the dual FI or PHEV models - too complex.
Personally, I say think long and hard about owning any of the modern VOLVOs long term. I'm not worried about ERAD failures but the plastic parts, mechanical complexity, vulnerable electronics, all lead to a vulnerable vehicle. If you're going to keep any vehicle for that long, I'd honestly stick with a much less complex drivetrain.
Yeah, what you've got here means nothing. It's a technical service bulletin for ERAD on earlier models. It doesn't suggest that ERADs have been widely failing, nor does it have any implications for the current ERAD. Just for comparison sake, nearly every XC60 in the year 2019 had fuel filler problems and that is a nonexistent problem at this point. Previous XC60s have very frequent high voltage heater problems, and that has been resolved. A failure in one system is not replicated for all of time - manufacturers can adapt.
Nice try though (Not really, but I thought I'd throw you a bone).
Show me hard data indicating that there is a high failure rate on the current ERADs. Show me any hard evidence whatsoever.
Nice try though (Not really, but I thought I'd throw you a bone).
Show me hard data indicating that there is a high failure rate on the current ERADs. Show me any hard evidence whatsoever.
Volvo's been offering turbo motors for over 40 years now - that would be the least of my concerns.
It's only anecdotal, but I had my 23 V60 ERAD replaced at 11K miles.
A user here had a failure early on (2024 XC90): https://www.swedespeed.com/threads/...ads/erad-failure-on-2024-xc90-after-100kms.677712/?post_id=8211943#post-8211943
I've seen probably about 5ish more reports of failures in 2023+ cars between FB/Reddit, etc. Obviously this isn't real data, just what I've seen. In no way does it suggest there is "widespread" failures, but they do happen. I'm a huge fan of my V60, but I also won't be surprised if I have another ERAD failure in the future.
A Volvo tech page I follow suggests it's still a common repair, even on the newer cars.
A user here had a failure early on (2024 XC90): https://www.swedespeed.com/threads/...ads/erad-failure-on-2024-xc90-after-100kms.677712/?post_id=8211943#post-8211943
I've seen probably about 5ish more reports of failures in 2023+ cars between FB/Reddit, etc. Obviously this isn't real data, just what I've seen. In no way does it suggest there is "widespread" failures, but they do happen. I'm a huge fan of my V60, but I also won't be surprised if I have another ERAD failure in the future.
A Volvo tech page I follow suggests it's still a common repair, even on the newer cars.
All I can say is that my T8 is over 90,000 miles and hasn't had a single problem beyond one alert in its early days that was fixed with a simple software update.. So in my view the reliability is great.
At the end of the day, life is too short to drive boring cars. Go for the car with an overly complicated drivetrain and just enjoy every trip you embark with it...
As Jeremy Clarkson once said, going on a trip with ticking time bomb of a car makes for an interesting trip. When you get to your destination and it hasn't caught fire, blown up, or suffered a catastrophic failure of all the powertrain electrics gives you a reason to celebrate at every destination!
Or in other words, "Alfa (insert Volvo here) builds a car as good as a car can be... briefly"
As Jeremy Clarkson once said, going on a trip with ticking time bomb of a car makes for an interesting trip. When you get to your destination and it hasn't caught fire, blown up, or suffered a catastrophic failure of all the powertrain electrics gives you a reason to celebrate at every destination!
Or in other words, "Alfa (insert Volvo here) builds a car as good as a car can be... briefly"
Tire wear is said to be an issue with heavy phev and bevs. I'm seeing about the same wear on my T8 that I did with my T6 though. 30,000 miles in (regular rotations) and they look like they'll go forever. Mixed blessing because I don't like driving without a spare and would like to replace the OEM with runflats.
Twin FI is an extremely rare technology and there simply aren't enough vehicles on the road to comment on durability and, as I said, I do not think there have been any twin FIs on the road in this market. The twin FI Volvos are the only examples in North America that I can recall.
There WERE twin FI engines sold outside NA in the past. The VW 1.4 twin charged engine has been superseded by the EA211 that has a single turbo and it was always a relatively small volume performance variant. Its possible that some version of that was sold on Golf GTIs in the states, but I'm honestly too lazy to google.
Lancias haven't been sold in the states since I was in high school, at least until FIAT's last attempt to come back and I don't think a whole lot of Delta S4's are out there in any market. I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that was a rally vehicle only (I read about it eons ago in Motor Trend, so forgive if it was marketed on a larger basis - Motor Trend and my failing memory are the only sources I have here).
So, again, I'll say, that the Volvo SC and Turbo is a mostly unproven technology.
And, yeah, the HVCH have been failing on the PHEVs. Happened to me too.
Basically, every T6 on the road had a fuel filler neck problem the year I purchased mine. Mine failed twice.
There are problems in both model lines. That's a different argument than claiming that ERAD is inherently failure prone.
There WERE twin FI engines sold outside NA in the past. The VW 1.4 twin charged engine has been superseded by the EA211 that has a single turbo and it was always a relatively small volume performance variant. Its possible that some version of that was sold on Golf GTIs in the states, but I'm honestly too lazy to google.
Lancias haven't been sold in the states since I was in high school, at least until FIAT's last attempt to come back and I don't think a whole lot of Delta S4's are out there in any market. I may be wrong, but I was under the impression that was a rally vehicle only (I read about it eons ago in Motor Trend, so forgive if it was marketed on a larger basis - Motor Trend and my failing memory are the only sources I have here).
So, again, I'll say, that the Volvo SC and Turbo is a mostly unproven technology.
And, yeah, the HVCH have been failing on the PHEVs. Happened to me too.
Basically, every T6 on the road had a fuel filler neck problem the year I purchased mine. Mine failed twice.
There are problems in both model lines. That's a different argument than claiming that ERAD is inherently failure prone.
I believe the 23 S6 is twin(tri?) charged. TTV6 w/ e-supercharger. I remember watching a Topher video recently which went over it which surprised me.
Land Rover, MB and their I6, and I think Genesis G90 has a 3.5T with an e-supercharger and turbo.
An e-supercharger is a different animal although one could argue that technology is even more unproven. I'll be 100% honest, that I have zero knowledge of how that works. But, indeed, the 35T -E-supercharged G90 is still on sale in the states.
You're really illustrating here why I love this forum. Super interesting! I'm going to read up on those vehicles. Thanks for the info!
You're really illustrating here why I love this forum. Super interesting! I'm going to read up on those vehicles. Thanks for the info!
Without playing games like this, I tend to rely on data more than stuff on chatboards. Consumer Reports, which is still the best source of data in North America (although ultimately flawed) , rates the SPA XC60 as much worse than average. However, the category of suspension and steering is rated as "average". I don't think the T8 or T6 is going to have problems under the car. I again think that the real issue will be failure of plastic parts, wires, and computers. As an example, my former BMW developed a crack in the gas tank (which is now plastic). I complained to my local repair guy with me and he said, "Come out back...". Behind his shop, he had a pile of failed gas tanks. He said it was happening more and more, because plastic just doesn't like constant heat, expanding, and contracting. In the T8, I'm less worried about the ERAD than I am about all the plastic bits and the electronic complexity. Its just not a vehicle that I'd want to own long-term. As for the T6, two forms of FI and the same preponderance of plastic gizmos. In all honest, if I planned on owning my car past 100,000 miles (which I rarely do), I would have gone with the T5. I would not bet on the reliability of the T6 OR T8 though.
At 70K I am 100% betting on that T6 reliability. Looking forward to hitting 100K.
I don't know how you can say an engine that's been in constant use in 1,000's of vehicles since 2015 is "unproven". How many T6's have been sold since then? And not counting the piston ring issue, how often are we really seeing problems on this forum, Reddit, Matthewsite...anywhere online...with engine rebuilds or blown engines with the T6? Even the dreaded "Super Charger Seals" failure isn't THAT common. Not common enough to be considered a common problem. I'm actually surprised there aren't a lot more posts about that...and believe me: before I bought my T6 I looked (and looked and looked) as this was going to be my first T6. Yea, I'm still a T6 newb...but...I'm betting on it. Of course, I know a forum or Reddit aren't the best thing to base opinions on...but shocked how few there are on these places.
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"The big issue," Volvo VP of Powertrain Development Derek Crabb told Popular Mechanics of the turbocharger + supercharger union, "was getting them to work together with refinement. The units themselves are simple," he adds, "but control, refinement, and noise/vibration/harshness was where the big challenge was." Crabb, incidentally, knows a thing or two about engines: he once worked as a project leader under the infamous automotive mad genius Colin Champan during his days at Lotus Cars."
Long Live our T6's.
I don't know how you can say an engine that's been in constant use in 1,000's of vehicles since 2015 is "unproven". How many T6's have been sold since then? And not counting the piston ring issue, how often are we really seeing problems on this forum, Reddit, Matthewsite...anywhere online...with engine rebuilds or blown engines with the T6? Even the dreaded "Super Charger Seals" failure isn't THAT common. Not common enough to be considered a common problem. I'm actually surprised there aren't a lot more posts about that...and believe me: before I bought my T6 I looked (and looked and looked) as this was going to be my first T6. Yea, I'm still a T6 newb...but...I'm betting on it. Of course, I know a forum or Reddit aren't the best thing to base opinions on...but shocked how few there are on these places.
Volvo Combines Turbocharging + Supercharging
Why pick one, when you can have them both?
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"The big issue," Volvo VP of Powertrain Development Derek Crabb told Popular Mechanics of the turbocharger + supercharger union, "was getting them to work together with refinement. The units themselves are simple," he adds, "but control, refinement, and noise/vibration/harshness was where the big challenge was." Crabb, incidentally, knows a thing or two about engines: he once worked as a project leader under the infamous automotive mad genius Colin Champan during his days at Lotus Cars."
Long Live our T6's.
1000s of vehicles is a actually a very small number compared to the total number of vehicles on the road and most of those thousands have not gotten anywhere near the age or milage when vehicles are likely to be problematic.
In any case, as I've said, I don't think T6 is going to have a lot of engine problems. I think its going to have failures in plastic parts, gaskets, wires, computers, etc. (Honestly, I don't know how many times I have to repeat that argument). I do think that the greater complexity of the T6 and T8 vs T5 is likely to have a cost down the road, though. If I was keeping mine past 100,000 miles, I'd be driving a T5.
And, no, anecdotal reports (or the lack of anecdotal reports) on chat boards and reddit is not a basis for conclusion. Data over anecdotes, every time. And, the actual data with regard to all the SPA Volvos is dismal.
In any case, as I've said, I don't think T6 is going to have a lot of engine problems. I think its going to have failures in plastic parts, gaskets, wires, computers, etc. (Honestly, I don't know how many times I have to repeat that argument). I do think that the greater complexity of the T6 and T8 vs T5 is likely to have a cost down the road, though. If I was keeping mine past 100,000 miles, I'd be driving a T5.
And, no, anecdotal reports (or the lack of anecdotal reports) on chat boards and reddit is not a basis for conclusion. Data over anecdotes, every time. And, the actual data with regard to all the SPA Volvos is dismal.
I’m glad you steered away from the question. The rear diffs on T6’s are far more reliable than the ERAD’s. I’m sure you agree, but of course that would be anecdotal 🙄.
Are you saying that since you actually saw the stack of failed BMW gas tanks, that’s not anecdotal? If I told you that multiple service advisors at two separate dealers told me the ERAD’s were failing constantly, would that suffice yet? Or would they need to show me a stack of failed ERAD’s out back to make it count? 🤔
Are you saying that since you actually saw the stack of failed BMW gas tanks, that’s not anecdotal? If I told you that multiple service advisors at two separate dealers told me the ERAD’s were failing constantly, would that suffice yet? Or would they need to show me a stack of failed ERAD’s out back to make it count? 🤔
It's a circuitous argument. I disputed the idea that the ERAD is fundamentally unreliable or that the T6 was inherently reliable. If the OP asked about the reliability of a traditional AWD setup vs the hybrid setups, it might be relevant. At this point in time, there is absolutely no data that separate engines in the rear fail more often than the traditional AWD setups anyway.
I didn't see a stack of failed BMW gas tanks. I saw a stack of failed gas tanks from multiple makes. And, yes, it was consistent with data and isn't just anecdotal. If you look at the tables in CR, you'll see the constant pattern of engine problems being relatively rare and electrical problems being quite common. The failure point in modern cars is not the engine or main drivetrain components, or suspensions. The DATA bares that out.
There is a big difference between drawing on experience for illustrative examples (which is why I'm doing) and basing your arguments on Reddit and posts on chat forums (which is what you are doing).
I really have no idea why you are even posting in this thread, to be frank. You don't own a XC60, you've never owned a T8, and you basically have zero insight into the functioning of the current recharges.
You're don't have data going for you, you don't have experience whatsoever with the vehicles involved either, and you're not the least bit objective. Your opinion is no better or worse than mine - but's just that - pure opinion.
I would also say, btw, that it is a mistake to assume that the same reliability patterns hold across the entire SPA model line. They may share components and fundamental designs but the historic pattern in CR shows the XC90 to be the least reliable of the SPA vehicles. I can say I have any idea why that may be the case, but the data are what they are. So, a failure point on the relatively trouble-prone XC90 might not even be relevant to the XC60, S60 etc. I am not at all convinced that earlier ERAD failures in the XC90 line portend anything for the XC60.
I hope your XC90 gives you years of trouble-free service but I'm done interacting with you in this increasingly tedious argument.
I didn't see a stack of failed BMW gas tanks. I saw a stack of failed gas tanks from multiple makes. And, yes, it was consistent with data and isn't just anecdotal. If you look at the tables in CR, you'll see the constant pattern of engine problems being relatively rare and electrical problems being quite common. The failure point in modern cars is not the engine or main drivetrain components, or suspensions. The DATA bares that out.
There is a big difference between drawing on experience for illustrative examples (which is why I'm doing) and basing your arguments on Reddit and posts on chat forums (which is what you are doing).
I really have no idea why you are even posting in this thread, to be frank. You don't own a XC60, you've never owned a T8, and you basically have zero insight into the functioning of the current recharges.
You're don't have data going for you, you don't have experience whatsoever with the vehicles involved either, and you're not the least bit objective. Your opinion is no better or worse than mine - but's just that - pure opinion.
I would also say, btw, that it is a mistake to assume that the same reliability patterns hold across the entire SPA model line. They may share components and fundamental designs but the historic pattern in CR shows the XC90 to be the least reliable of the SPA vehicles. I can say I have any idea why that may be the case, but the data are what they are. So, a failure point on the relatively trouble-prone XC90 might not even be relevant to the XC60, S60 etc. I am not at all convinced that earlier ERAD failures in the XC90 line portend anything for the XC60.
I hope your XC90 gives you years of trouble-free service but I'm done interacting with you in this increasingly tedious argument.
This probably isn't helpful since it's only one point of evidence but as far as I know my 17 XC90 T8 is on its original ERAD and coolant heater at 72k. I bought it at 47k with very little knowledge of anything prior so ya never know...
I did get a CEL for the upstream O2 so I did that at 60k or so.
I guess I was a little surprised by the tire wear because the rears wear faster than the front even though the front sees much more total HP and torque. It makes sense since each launch typically begins with the rear but I just didn't think about it before owning one.
I recently replaced the all season Contis that were on the car when I bought it so I got about 23k out of them. They were a relatively soft compound so I wouldn't be surprised if a harder compound would last longer. No complaints from me since my 04 XC90 T6 would happily chew through tires in 15-20k or less.
I also don't consider 72, 100, or even 150k to be high mileage considering all my other Volvos are north of 250k on their original engines and transmissions...
I plan on keeping my T8 for quite a while so wish me luck!
I did get a CEL for the upstream O2 so I did that at 60k or so.
I guess I was a little surprised by the tire wear because the rears wear faster than the front even though the front sees much more total HP and torque. It makes sense since each launch typically begins with the rear but I just didn't think about it before owning one.
I recently replaced the all season Contis that were on the car when I bought it so I got about 23k out of them. They were a relatively soft compound so I wouldn't be surprised if a harder compound would last longer. No complaints from me since my 04 XC90 T6 would happily chew through tires in 15-20k or less.
I also don't consider 72, 100, or even 150k to be high mileage considering all my other Volvos are north of 250k on their original engines and transmissions...
I plan on keeping my T8 for quite a while so wish me luck!
Statistically, 100% of my own 2018 XC60 T6 was unreliable. It was great (only really issue was the brake rotors constantly warping) until the engine decided to catch fire. This just happened 2 weeks ago and we still don't know why. The car was very well maintained and had only 60,300 miles on it. Volvo tech suggested an issue with the supercharger but that is pure speculation at this point as insurance won't pay for investigation and is most likely going to total the car. So I doubt we will ever know what caused the fire. We are considering opening a case with Volvo directly to see if they will investigate but we are getting tired of the hassle and not sure it's worth it.
I had two XC90 T8s, both lemon buybacks.
I had a n XC90 D5 and it was solid.
I have never owned a T6. But, given my experience with the T8s, I figured hybrid Volvos have issues. I know T6s seems to run at the bottom of Consumer Report reliability tables as well, but my suspicion is they are not as bad as the T8s.
Frankly, if you want reliability in this generation, you stay away from Volvo and buy a Toyota.
I had a n XC90 D5 and it was solid.
I have never owned a T6. But, given my experience with the T8s, I figured hybrid Volvos have issues. I know T6s seems to run at the bottom of Consumer Report reliability tables as well, but my suspicion is they are not as bad as the T8s.
Frankly, if you want reliability in this generation, you stay away from Volvo and buy a Toyota.
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