[IAmBoxyButGood]

After a total of 120 miles on the odometer, my 23 XC90 Recharge started showing the check engine light. It went back to the dealer and 3 days later, I got it back with a new EVAP hose. It was frustrating, for sure, but more so, it didn't instill much confidence in this new vehicle.

Then, the very next day, the check engine light came back on. This time, at one point, the PURE mode was grayed out, completely not selectable, but other than that everything else seemed normal. The dealer took the car and this time found that the car was throwing a BCM-P0D1F62 error.

The dealer hadn't seen this error before, but apparently Volvo corporate is well aware of it. They say it's an unknown software error, is rare, and that they're working on a software fix for it. They cleared the error code and said that if it reappears, stop the engine, restart, and the code should clear. if not, keep restarting.

That was 2 weeks ago. Today the check engine came back on, after another 600 miles or so (we're up to just over 700 miles on the SUV). I tried stop -> restart several times. Check engine remained. Brought it to the dealer. Sure enough, it's the same error code.

I was told that software 2.8 is coming out in about 4 weeks (sometime in April 2023) with lots of changes and fixes for the AAOS cars, but likely won't address this specific issue. The dealer told me to expect to have the light come back on soon.

I'm not super thrilled about having an $80k SUV that has a software error that will leave a check engine light on my dash. Plus how am I supposed to know that the next time the check engine light comes on that it's the same problem?

The dealer has been great, but I'm fearful that with 2 different problems on 3 occasions after only 2 weeks of ownership, that I might be in for a rough time long term....


Anyone else experiencing this? Suggestions?

 

[DR1234]

If it happens again and you have another Volvo dealer around you I would take it to them, every dealership's techs have different diagnostic abilities.

 

[IAmBoxyButGood]

If it happens again and you have another Volvo dealer around you I would take it to them, every dealership's techs have different diagnostic abilities.

I thought of that, but the diagnosis came straight from Volvo corporate. (plus there isn't another convenient Volvo dealer - the close one is 45 minutes away)

My big thing is that this has happened twice to me in under 800 miles, so it's likely to happen again, no matter how rare the problem is suppose to be - my car is effected by the bug. If Volvo's saying it's rare though, how big of a priority is it for Volvo to fix what they're claiming is a software issue?

 

[rsfpc05]

I thought of that, but the diagnosis came straight from Volvo corporate. (plus there isn't another convenient Volvo dealer - the close one is 45 minutes away)

My big thing is that this has happened twice to me in under 800 miles, so it's likely to happen again, no matter how rare the problem is suppose to be - my car is effected by the bug. If Volvo's saying it's rare though, how big of a priority is it for Volvo to fix what they're claiming is a software issue?

I won’t trust what the dealer is telling you about how “rare” it is. If it’s software, most likely it’s impacting many other cars. The downside of car manufacturing today, so much software within now.

 

[Jeff_4851]

Another thread to remind me not buying a T8....

 

[rsfpc05]

Another thread to remind me not buying a T8....

Because it’s not 100% free of gremlins? I hope you don’t think there are cars out there that are because that’s a fallacy.

First time Volvo owner here and for the car, money, features etc, extremely happy with my MY22 and more importantly Sensus. I do feel bad for folks that jumped into AAOS

 

[IAmBoxyButGood]

Because it’s not 100% free of gremlins? I hope you don’t think there are cars out there that are because that’s a fallacy.

First time Volvo owner here and for the car, money, features etc, extremely happy with my MY22 and more importantly Sensus. I do feel bad for folks that jumped into AAOS

Fortunately it's generally safe to get our cars wet, and I can feed the Recharge electricity after midnight without issue.

 

[Tank010]

Another thread to remind me not buying a T8....

Another reason to buy out my current lease. 2021 T6 with sensus. No mild hybrid no plug in.

 

[VolvoFaRmeR]

Because it’s not 100% free of gremlins? I hope you don’t think there are cars out there that are because that’s a fallacy.

He’s referring to the undeniable fact the T8 models have much more frequent issues, particularly with software. It’s not really debatable that the T8s have by far more issues compared to the other drivetrains.

 

[VolvoSafety]

I received the same P0D1F check engine code about 6 weeks ago on our 2023 T8. I had it periodically come on and off for a week then it hasn't come on since. My car is in the dealer for another reason (ERAD) so I have them looking at it as well

 

[IAmBoxyButGood]

I received the same P0D1F check engine code about 6 weeks ago on our 2023 T8. I had it periodically come on and off for a week then it hasn't come on since. My car is in the dealer for another reason (ERAD) so I have them looking at it as well

Any update @VolvoSafety ? Ours just came back on (3rd time now). What did the dealer tell you? And how did you know that you were getting a P0D1F code? Mine only shows the check engine light and my scan tool isn't advanced enough to show any code for BECM. THANK YOU!

 

[Delmarva]

Any update @VolvoSafety ? Ours just came back on (3rd time now). What did the dealer tell you? And how did you know that you were getting a P0D1F code? Mine only shows the check engine light and my scan tool isn't advanced enough to show any code for BECM. THANK YOU!

If the same code keeps reappearing and you lose Pure mode or some other functionality you may want to research the Lemon Laws for your state.

 

[IAmBoxyButGood]

If the same code keeps reappearing and you lose Pure mode or some other functionality you may want to research the Lemon Laws for your state.

Yep, already there and this will be the 3rd (non)-repair, which should qualify me for a lemon law return -- which I really don't want to have to do. And that's why I've made this post and am asking questions of others.

 

[VolvoSafety]

Any update @VolvoSafety ? Ours just came back on (3rd time now). What did the dealer tell you? And how did you know that you were getting a P0D1F code? Mine only shows the check engine light and my scan tool isn't advanced enough to show any code for BECM. THANK YOU!

Sorry. No update yet. My car is still in the shop almost 3 weeks in as they are replacing the ERAD.

 

[IAmBoxyButGood]

Sorry. No update yet. My car is still in the shop almost 3 weeks in as they are replacing the ERAD.

Well I'm sorry to hear that you've been without for 3 weeks! Any indication of what's taking 3 weeks? Waiting on a part? The ERAD itself, something else? I hope they've given you a nice loaner and are taking care of you financially...

Are they saying that your ERAD replacement is in any way related to the P0D1F error you received sporadically?

I wonder if Volvo's lifetime replacement part guarantee will apply to your replacement ERAD

Volvo Customer Lifetime Parts & Labor Warranty

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As of June 1, 2015, Volvo launched the Customer Lifetime Parts & Labor Warranty. This warranty is available to any retail customer that purchases an eligible part and has it installed at an authorized Volvo dealer. Pay for a repair once and never pay for it again!

 

[VolvoSafety]

Well I'm sorry to hear that you've been without for 3 weeks! Any indication of what's taking 3 weeks? Waiting on a part? The ERAD itself, something else? I hope they've given you a nice loaner and are taking care of you financially...

Are they saying that your ERAD replacement is in any way related to the P0D1F error you received sporadically?

I wonder if Volvo's lifetime replacement part guarantee will apply to your replacement ERAD

Volvo Customer Lifetime Parts & Labor Warranty

volvo.custhelp.com

I don't know if the two are related and I would doubt it. That said if we both have T8s with the issue it is possible it's related to some component of the T8 system.

The ERAD was related to a metal on metal noise when starting from a dead stop. They were trying different fixes before they finally decided to try the ERAD.

Yes I am thankful that I got a good loaner although not sure what you mean by taking care financially.

 

[Ferdinand aka gravyboat]

So just had a check engine light on our T8 XC90. No driving issues, just the light. Took it to dealer. The tested for several hours and found nothing and the light went off. Said there was some sort of battery fault stored in history but they tested the battery and there were no issues.

The lead tech asked if we parked in a closed garage, which we do. Then asked if we locked the car at night while charging… which we do not.

He said that was most likely the culprit. Apparently if not locked, the car CONSTANTLY expects you to come back out and start it up, so it never truly shuts off. Some systems stay booted up “ready to drive” while the car is unlocked. Much like leaving a computer turned on too long, it needs a reboot.

He said this was a newer issue only with the 22/23s but that it was common with their customers.

He said the other issue that he has seen frequently is if you have to reset your google password, that you have to manually go in and change the password in the car as well. Some sort of glitchy oversight where it constantly tries to load your profile but can’t (since password is wrong) and it has a brain fart.

Not sure if this is your problem, or if you can even test it since your is still at the shop. But hopefully this helps someone out!

 

[rfkuehn]

My car is still in the shop almost 3 weeks in as they are replacing the ERAD.

You have MY23? That's the newest ERAD design w/ higher output, along w/ ER battery, both landed for MY22.5. And I think the third iteration of ERAD.

What's your ERAD issue? Hope its not a harbinger of a another, broader design issue.

 

[IAmBoxyButGood]

So just had a check engine light on our T8 XC90. No driving issues, just the light. Took it to dealer. The tested for several hours and found nothing and the light went off. Said there was some sort of battery fault stored in history but they tested the battery and there were no issues.

The lead tech asked if we parked in a closed garage, which we do. Then asked if we locked the car at night while charging… which we do not.

He said that was most likely the culprit. Apparently if not locked, the car CONSTANTLY expects you to come back out and start it up, so it never truly shuts off. Some systems stay booted up “ready to drive” while the car is unlocked. Much like leaving a computer turned on too long, it needs a reboot.

He said this was a newer issue only with the 22/23s but that it was common with their customers.

He said the other issue that he has seen frequently is if you have to reset your google password, that you have to manually go in and change the password in the car as well. Some sort of glitchy oversight where it constantly tries to load your profile but can’t (since password is wrong) and it has a brain fart.

Not sure if this is your problem, or if you can even test it since your is still at the shop. But hopefully this helps someone out!

@Ferdinand aka gravyboat can you ask the dealer what the code was?

 

[VolvoSafety]

You have MY23? That's the newest ERAD design w/ higher output, along w/ ER battery, both landed for MY22.5. And I think the third iteration of ERAD.

What's your ERAD issue? Hope its not a harbinger of a another, broader design issue.

Yes I have a 23. The issue was a metal in metal sound when going from a dead stop. The car is ready on Monday so I'll see what the repair order says.