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Did the oil change month ago. Drained for 5 minutes, nothing out of the plug. Changed the filter. Added the whole jug Liqui Moly top tech 6600, only 5L. Then I noticed Digital dipstick showing 1 tick to MAX. Drived for a month, it is at the MAX now. I wonder if the digital dipstick works or not. Probably somewhere in the pan is touching and reaching the dip, elsewhere does not participate in the working situation. Besides, I don't think 4-cylinder engine does need such huge amount of oil over 5L. It should be fine with 5L, all the way up to 6L. But less oil is supposed to be fuel efficient if drive not that hard. High REV driver better top off 5.5L+.
Just own opinion. Hope 5L works good.
What model and engine is your car? What is the capacity of your engine per the user manual?
 
Did the oil change month ago. Drained for 5 minutes, nothing out of the plug. Changed the filter. Added the whole jug Liqui Moly top tech 6600, only 5L. Then I noticed Digital dipstick showing 1 tick to MAX. Drived for a month, it is at the MAX now. I wonder if the digital dipstick works or not. Probably somewhere in the pan is touching and reaching the dip, elsewhere does not participate in the working situation. Besides, I don't think 4-cylinder engine does need such huge amount of oil over 5L. It should be fine with 5L, all the way up to 6L. But less oil is supposed to be fuel efficient if drive not that hard. High REV driver better top off 5.5L+.
Just own opinion. Hope 5L works good.
I am more worried about overfilling. I've found that putting in 5.5 quarts (5.2 liters) puts me at 1 tick below MAX. I also measure the coolant level and make note of whether the measurement is cold or hot. This way, I will know via the digital oil level if coolant is leaking into the engine oil. I had a scare during one oil change that the oil coming out looked quite thin (it was 0W20 and I have since gone back to 5W30). Also, the ticks move after about 1 hour of driving. So if you fill it right away, the leveling info will not be immediate.
 
I think volvo is NOT for maintenance safety at all. By removing the dip stick to check oil, volvo car company wants to make sure the consumer get shafted/raped by the stealerships. I think volvo engineers are making it so that engine damage occurs by consumer negligence. the on-screen/DIM is not reliable at all. this small decision to take out the dip-stick is an indication of their executive management's philosophy of how best to screw the consumers over in small subtle ways.
I will NEVER EVER buy a volvo again and will discourage anyone from buying one. Bought a used one for my daughter, and my bad for not thinking about the dip-stick.
Oh how I used to love volvos, went through 4 of them before this last one.
 
Yes, We Under stand - My Low Oil Light Comes on with too Much Age on Oil or Little to Low , like Early with 3.2 & Holds 7.5 qts . .
Now If Your Someone that Loves Old Way of Doing things - I Believe that there is a Way to Do That . . seen Info somewhere like 10yrs ago . .
 
owns 2009 VOLVO V70 3.2S
Discussion starter · #327 ·
So I guess I haven't looked at this thread in a while... and it seems Volvo has been busy changing their oil specs!

I used up my last batch of Castrol Edge that I purchased from my local dealer. Drained the oil - oops didn't have any more! Read up on the various current 'requirements' and didn't get very far. I now have no idea what might be the best oil. Ended up selecting some Mobil-1 5W30 from my local Oreilly:

And at Oreilly it claims to be compatible with many years of XC90:
 
You’re good to go with the Mobile 1. Probably much better oil than Castrol. Not sure if you plan to do an oil analysis, but it would be interesting to see the data.
Probably not. I've used both Mobil1 0W40 (for our other Euro cars) and Castrol 0W40 and the oil analysis says Castrol is better/lasts longer depending on what ingredients you prefer. I'm using Castol 5W/30 for the Volvo after the 0W20 fiasco/scam.
 
You’re good to go with the Mobile 1. Probably much better oil than Castrol. Not sure if you plan to do an oil analysis, but it would be interesting to see the data.
Probably not. I've used both Mobil1 0W40 (for our other Euro cars) and Castrol 0W40 and the oil analysis says Castrol is better/lasts longer depending on what ingredients you prefer. I'm using Castol 5W/30 for the Volvo after the 0W20 fiasco/scam.
It is interesting that reviews on Mobile 1’s 0w20 EXP is not that great. The spec sheets seem to suggest its superior to Volvo’s 0w20 snake oil.
 
Anyhow - here are Other Reasons to Consider when Moving Away from Factory Spec. Oil Weight - ( Looking at Tuned or Turbo ) Oil Temps & Weights or Viscosity Effect
OIL PRESSURE that Effects - Life of Components & Life of Oil - Itself . .

Test Clearly Show this all in Graph : Only Wish They had also Plotted 5W-20 & 5W-30 but Lines may have been to Close . .

If Pressure is Lower @ Higher Temperature & RPM's say like a Tuned T6 then - Engines Cooling Ability is Hampered in Critical Area's - ( Oil Squirters ) Bearings

Oil's Ability to Hold @ Higher Temps for Turbo Motors is More Important . .

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owns 2009 VOLVO V70 3.2S
Probably not. I've used both Mobil1 0W40 (for our other Euro cars) and Castrol 0W40 and the oil analysis says Castrol is better/lasts longer depending on what ingredients you prefer. I'm using Castol 5W/30 for the Volvo after the 0W20 fiasco/scam.
I need to ask, what's the 0W20 fiasco/scam?

I'm in the UK and not aware of any issues with VEA engines using the specified oil, apart from the early ring problems. I appreciate that across the US temperatures are often more extreme at both ends of hot and cold than here.

But you piqued my curiosity :unsure:
 
Probably not. I've used both Mobil1 0W40 (for our other Euro cars) and Castrol 0W40 and the oil analysis says Castrol is better/lasts longer depending on what ingredients you prefer. I'm using Castol 5W/30 for the Volvo after the 0W20 fiasco/scam.
I need to ask, what's the 0W20 fiasco/scam?

I'm in the UK and not aware of any issues with VEA engines using the specified oil, apart from the early ring problems. I appreciate that across the US temperatures are often more extreme at both ends of hot and cold than here.

But you piqued my curiosity :unsure:

Volvo went like this:
-2015: released RBSO-2AE 0w20 for “extreme conditions”, but refused to release the specs to remain proprietary. Only after legal action did they begrudgingly provide the spec to competitors.

-2017 to 2018: Volvo quietly changed their extended warranty verbiage to exclude oil burning issues, unless mechanical failure occurred

-2020: Volvo mandated all VEP engines use RBS0-2AE 0w20, otherwise warranty claims denied.

-2023: Volvo decided to refer customers back to online user manuals. Which requires RBSO-2AE 0w20… BUT…A5/B5 0w30 or 5w30
is fine for SPA/CMA models (except 2021’s… because… Volvo).

2024+: 0w20 meeting C6 (but A5/B5 5w30/0w30 is also fine)
 
0~16W even Now , but Yes Chart is from Red-Line Testing - Hence Red Line Oils ( I'd Ask Red_Line ) as to Engine Used . . It had to be More Modern If Using 0W-20 . .
Many Oil Companies Today do Their Own Testing & Will Disclose said Testing !
But
If You do Not Recall in Past Most Older Engines Manufacturing Facilities - Were NOT Holding +/_ .0002 as Modern Machining Age of Digital came to Be
HONDA & Others - were 8-10yrs Out Front in so many Area's - WAY - Ahead of Oil Companies even .. so Older Manufacture were only Holding .0015

JUST SAYING THERE IS MORE THEN WHAT MEETS EYE - when moving to an Oil weight & Properties - that - Different then Manufacture Recommendations . .
 
owns 2009 VOLVO V70 3.2S
Discussion starter · #335 ·
Turns out my Mobil1 5W30 is also available at Costco in convenient 6-packs! Very happy

And it meets A5/B5 per Mobil
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Trip to my local CTire and found that they now carry a Castrol Edge Euro sporting the magic certification, and C5/C6 too! And decent price too. 65$ CAD not even at promo price.

What's odd is that this is an oil marketed as for Turbo Diesel cars... Should I be concerned?

Looking at Castrol's website, they list a few distinct Edge Euro oils in 0w20... Two having the RBS0-2AE rating...

The Edge Euro Turbo Diesel 0W20
The Edge Euro V 0W20

What is special to a Turbo diesel oil? Does the fact it says RBS0-2AE mean I shouldn't be concerned about the rest of the branding (diesel)...?



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Trip to my local CTire and found that they now carry a Castrol Edge Euro sporting the magic certification, and C5/C6 too! And decent price too. 65$ CAD not even at promo price.

What's odd is that this is an oil marketed as for Turbo Diesel cars... Should I be concerned?

Looking at Castrol's website, they list a few distinct Edge Euro oils in 0w20... Two having the RBS0-2AE rating...

The Edge Euro Turbo Diesel 0W20
The Edge Euro V 0W20

What is special to a Turbo diesel oil? Does the fact it says RBS0-2AE mean I shouldn't be concerned about the rest of the branding (diesel)...?



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Use it! It’s marketed for both gasoline AND diesel.
 
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