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New to Me 2013 Volvo XC90

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In July, I picked up a 2013 Caspian Blue Metallic XC90 3.2 AWD for around $13,000 OTD and it had almost exactly 100,000 miles. Had it inspected and it checked out other than a couple of rusty bits under the car (no frame or body rust though).
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Over the next month or so, I started making a list of everything that needed to be fixed, and stuff I wanted to have done, to make it like new again:

- Clunking noise when shifting gears. It started by just making the noise when first shifting into drive or reverse from park, but got progressively worse as time went on. It started making the noise sometimes when it was down shifting, coming to a stop, and also in turns. Front axles were replaced and covered under the warranty I purchased. The shop found that the axle were moving a fair bit when the transmission was shifting. This completely got rid of the noise.

- When I purchased the car, I noticed the rear wiper was missing a cap and the plastic that held the wiper onto the car was cracked. Aftermarket rear wiper arm was replaced for $50 and it wipes as it should now.
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- I had an issue with the front windshield washer nozzles were not spraying fluid. The headlight washers and rear washer worked though. The Fix: This ended up being a small plastic valve that was cracked. The service guy heard me talk about this and suspected that this might be the issue. We popped the hood, and confirmed that it was missing a cap, which was allowing all of the fluid to be shot into the engine bay. He just gave me the part, and I fixed it on the spot in a second.

- I also had a transmission fluid drain and refill just as preventative maintenance.

-Fuel door cap just flailed around when opening and closing, had no tension from the spring, as the plastic hinge was broken. I purchased the hinge from the shop for like $25 and fixed it one afternoon.

- Headlights were foggy when I purchased them, I had them buffed and polished. Front Volvo emblem was faded. I found a replacement from Volvo for $6. This really helped tidy up the front of the car.
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-Steering wheel and shifter were a little grimy, so I decided to clean them up with a magic eraser, came out really nice!

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After: All door panels, steering wheel and dash board plastics coated with a UV protectant after they were cleaned. The car originally had a armor all like dressing on the plastic, that was one of the first things I tried to clean off as I cannot stand the shiny appearance at all.
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Just these quick repairs really have made a big difference in how the car presents itself and many people cannot believe it is as old as it is.

Next up will be the serpentine belt, then a brake service to eliminate a slight shimmy when braking.

After that, a pair of new headlights, and then I will have the passenger side back door window regulator repaired as it is a little slow going up and down. I will update this thread as things get fixed and replaced.

Have a great week!
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#2 ·
Looking good on the progress so far. Also, check your control arm bushings if that is contributing to the shimmy.

What UV protectant did you use that has a matte appearance?

I have on my windshields 3M Crystalline CR90 film which is highly clear (no tint). It was the clearest quality window film I could find at the time. It has 99% UV rejection and only 1% glare reduction. It helps with rejecting UV, solar energy, IR, and IR energy. Had my vehicles inspected and they didn't suspect anything since it's clear. For locations with stricter tinting laws, this is a great option. I tried another quality brand and couldn't deal with the bluish ceramic color and driving at night, since ceramic films get bluer with lighter tints. 3M's Crystalline doesn't use ceramic.
 
#4 ·
Wow. The car is in great shape. It was probably garage kept. About the transmission maintenance: the drain and fill is not a real solution because half of the fluid stays in the system. There are specific machines to completely flush and change the fluid under the proper pressure. My dealer charges $400 for that service. If you buy the fluid and do your drain and fill once or twice you almost pay the same and still leave old fluid in the system. During the transmission service they also clean the magnet which is collecting the tiny metal pieces preventing it circulating in the gearbox.
 
#5 ·
If you buy the fluid and do your drain and fill once or twice you almost pay the same and still leave old fluid in the system. During the transmission service they also clean the magnet which is collecting the tiny metal pieces preventing it circulating in the gearbox.
This simply isn't true, I think you're mistaken.

1. Draining and filling is the recommended method of replacing fluid, according to Volvo. Using a machine is unnecessary and risky for reasons mentioned on other transmission threads here. And ~7qts of fluid to do two drain/fills yourself is not $400.

2. Nobody pulls the pans on the TF80 when only replacing fluid. Nobody. You have to drop the subframe to do so, which is a long and labor intensive process. You can't clean any magnets without dropping the pan. You're probably thinking of a different transmission/vehicle.
 
#6 ·
I didn’t know that it’s such a huge hassle on this model. For sure, on modern European models the machine is the preferred method. Just recently saw this maintenance on a Lamborghini and previously on many Audi and Mercedes-Benz. It’s pretty simple and safe to fully replace the old transmission fluid.
One of the member just posted his drain and fill a few weeks ago. He did it twice. That’s about $200 worth of fluid from FCP Euro. To me the $400 makes more sense at the dealership and as long as the mileage isn’t too high it’s not a risky maintenance. Independent shops do it all over Europe and I never heard about issues. As we said it’s a preventative maintenance and won’t fix a slipping transmission with 200k miles in it.
 
#9 ·
No, a lot don’t recommend using the machine for transmission fluid exchange, this includes the ZF transmissions which have a plastic pan/filter and magnets. They first say the fluid is lifetime, same thing with Volvo and this transmission. Shops and dealerships might recommend a fluid change, but prefer doing the work using a fluid exchange machine. They might state that’s what they always do, because it’s faster in the shop or they carry a specific machine. Fluid exchange machines can also be left alone while it works so a technician can do other work at the same time.

2x drain/fills is not $200 in fluid since there are WS fluid options for later TF-80SCs. That would cost more than Ravenol Synthetic WS fluid. I encourage you to read the dozens of threads on transmission fluid for the TF-80SC in Volvos.

With 100k miles, one drain/fill is regular delayed maintenance, not really preventative. I would recommend doing 1-2 more drain/fills. Many of us do 12qts of fresh fluid using the cooler line method.

One thing is certain, the interior and exterior are looking great. Looking forward to reading the progress on this XC90.
 
#8 ·
Follow-on reports with power flushes (with or without an intermediate "cleaning" fluid) have varied, general consensus is that it's easier on a higher mileage transmission to perform a drain/fill or use the vehicle transmission pump to gently push fluid out of the radiator/cooler hose rather than using the higher pressure that's associated with power flushes. I'm a fan of pump out myself but I see the value in doing repetitive D/F if you're not sure of the condition of your transmission, it's the most benign in terms of fluid swap impact.

To change the fluid is better than not changing the fluid IMHO, and while it won't resolve worn solenoids on a pre-06J TF-80SC, it'll probably make the shifting feel better. This is a 2013 so GEN2 transmission, AW-1 or WS fluid is specified. Under $10 per quart/liter in most places.
 
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Well, I was cruising the internet and happened across a decent deal on some new headlights, and decided to buy them a little bit sooner than planned...

I had these buffed, but it seems the damage to the headlight was on the inside of the lens

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Very happy with the outcome! Excited to see what the difference will be at night!
 
#12 ·
Just a small update.

New aftermarket front axles failed... Clunking started happening again and more frequently. Called up the shop and they found that even though this part was listed to work on the XC90, the fitment was just a tad off causing the noises and slight shimmy at higher speeds. The warranty company ok'd the more expensive OEM axles (which they originally would not), and boy, what difference. Took her all the way up to 90 mph and she was smooth as butter... No out of pocket cost to me either! I have to say, this warranty company has been a dream to work with so far.

While they were replacing the front axles, I had them replace the serpentine belt and rollers as that was due, and do a front brake service to address the shimmying in the steering wheel when coming to a stop.

These items really addressed all of the complaints I had regarding the ride and she drives like new again.

On Monday, I will be replacing all of the tires with Continental 4X4 Contact (just reordering the same brand that was on the car when I bought them) which should tie everything up nicely as the current tires are just about at their limit.

In January, I will be having the timing belt replaced and that should be most of the more expensive maintenance taken care of for a bit at least. She'll get her first oil change with me then as well.
 
#13 ·
Just a small update.

New aftermarket front axles failed... Clunking started happening again and more frequently. Called up the shop and they found that even though this part was listed to work on the XC90, the fitment was just a tad off causing the noises and slight shimmy at higher speeds. The warranty company ok'd the more expensive OEM axles (which they originally would not), and boy, what difference. Took her all the way up to 90 mph and she was smooth as butter... No out of pocket cost to me either! I have to say, this warranty company has been a dream to work with so far.

While they were replacing the front axles, I had them replace the serpentine belt and rollers as that was due, and do a front brake service to address the shimmying in the steering wheel when coming to a stop.

These items really addressed all of the complaints I had regarding the ride and she drives like new again.

On Monday, I will be replacing all of the tires with Continental 4X4 Contact (just reordering the same brand that was on the car when I bought them) which should tie everything up nicely as the current tires are just about at their limit.

In January, I will be having the timing belt replaced and that should be most of the more expensive maintenance taken care of for a bit at least. She'll get her first oil change with me then as well.
I also opted for the original Volvo reman axles after repacking the CV several times. Bite my lip once and then it's smooth for the next 100k+ miles. Unfortunately, GKN doesn't make aftermarket front axles for the 3.2 & V8 (same axles).

Hmm, what belt was changed? The serpentine and pulleys? Since this is all connected to the decoupler, tensioner, water pump, which need to be removed to get to the decoupler seal, did they take everything apart for the serpentine belt?

The work for the serpentine system, plus the decoupler pulley & seal, plus the cooling system should be done all at once since they are layered together and have the same lifespan. Soon after this service, the PCV box should be replaced. And if the spark plugs are original, they should be replaced every 50k miles.

The 3.2 does not have a timing belt, it has a chain.
 
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Huh, for some reason I thought it had a timing belt. What is the service interval for the chains?

Also, the shop receipt labels the service as "Replace serpentine belt, tensioner pulley and idler pulley". I did not specifically ask for the other services though so I will have to check with the tech who did the work.
 
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No service interval for the timing chain.

Since you already paid for the serpentine belt work, you will now have to do the work twice to ensure the entire serpentine, decoupler, and cooling system work is properly done.

I encourage you to read the stickied 3.2 thread so you can prioritize the proper maintenance repairs, know what will need replacing & when, and you can game plan the projects. The service intervals for these maintenance items are different than Volvo's recommended service intervals because 3.2 owners have found Volvo's recommendations extend beyond the parts' normal lifespan.
 
#16 ·
Nice for an 11 yr old Volvo. I got mine 2 yrs ago. I had the same issue of clunking noise when shifting reverse and drive, changed the front axles and the noise was eliminated. Then, the check engine lit for about 2months, I have a checklist of causes. The shop diagnosed and it said catalytic converter and dealer only ($3400) manifold. So, In my checklist, I bought O2 sensors, fuel injectors, MAF sensor, after replacing MAF sensor ($20) DIY, the check engine light was gone. This was the happiest day of my life. The engine has been running smoothly, no RPM problem, gas consumption is great! I tried replacing gas cap, cat cleaner and other ways to eliminate check engine and the MAF sensor solved the issue. I saved more than $3k+ against $20 sensor. Replaced 4 tires, brake rotors and pads. Haven't done the transmission fluid though. I keep it clean and shiny using Meguiar's Detailer wax. This wax gives the best shine on my black Volvo, you should try this. Worth the money.:). Replaced the front suspensions and runs like new.
 
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Funny you just replied, because I am actually now going through the same problem with mine with the check engine light coming on too. Also for a catalytic converter ineficiency. Curiously, mine only came on just as I had my mechanic change out a rusty exhaust and one fo the cats further downstream. This code did not come on prior to the replacement, so the shop is going to take another closer look at this. I'm really hoping I do not need to replace the cats attached to the manifold...
 
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It was a headache for months with check engine light for months. Running smoothly, amazing gas consumption, no unusual engine proble of any kind, just check engine light. So, I continued searching for causes where my OBD read 0420 catalytic issue. If you encounter the same problem, check the MAS sensor first and "might" solve the issue, mine did and didn't have to spend more than $3k on cat converter. I kept my Volvo just like new for an 11 yr old car. Changed suspension: struts, axles, swing arms, ball joints, brake rotors and pads, now runs perfectly. The clunking sound when shifting to Reverse and Drive was solved replacing the axles. Love my Volvo;)
 
#20 ·
Well, I have gotten the car back from the mechanics, and fingers crossed, but after driving around for a while, no check engine light. But, I now seem to have a ticking noise from the blower motor 😑... I guess if its not one thing, its another with this car, but at least it should be covered under my warranty.