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Volvo investigating SPA2 XC100

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#1 ·
This is not the Excellence version, but a full size SUV, of course, more expensive than XC90.

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Volvo Investing with XC100
Photo: Erik Andrén

The success of Volvo Cars is global. Achieving the promised record goal of 800 000 sold cars a year to 2020 does not seem at all impossible. To continue to grow, a fully sjusitsig SUV is also planned for North America and China.

Rumors that Volvo would develop an even bigger SUV than the current XC90 (internal codename V526) has Florerat ever since the first generation (P28) debuted 2002. Early on it was seen that the XC90 was a number too small compared to the competitors, mainly in the United States. But tight budget during previous Ford ownership meant that the people of Gothenburg had to choose to develop other - more important - cars instead of a mega-SUV.

In connection with Chinese Zhejiang Geely Holding Group's takeover of Volvo spring 2010 , future model matrix was planned about substantially. Then CEO Stefan Jacoby together with development manager Peter Mertens, both from Germany, drew up new guidelines where the SPA platform would form the basis for the major model Series 60 and 90. Flexibility and efficiency were watchwords, the SPA is also a base for completely different types of cars - everything from hybrid-sports car Polestar 1 To lyxlimousinen S90L Excellence.
Volvo XC100

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Photo: Erik Andrén

The SPA 2 platform will be the foundation for the next generation of large Volvo and Polestar cars, with it well prepared for electric drive. In order to compete with big Cadillac Escalad and Lincoln Navigator It is required that the XC100 extends. A length of at least 5.2 meters.

SPA 2 called the upcoming replacement platform as the next generation of large cars from Volvo (and Polestar) will be built on - adapted for global production in Europe, USA and China. European competitors like BMW X7, Mercedes GLS and Range Rover LWB are still refreshing Volvo to build a full-sized SUV with hefty dimensions. The SUV trend is stronger than ever when manufacturers such as Lamborghini, Rolls-Royce and even Lotus establish themselves in the segment. The United States also sells Cadillac Escalae, Infiniti QX80, Lexus LX 570 and, for example, Lincoln Navigator too well for Volvo Cars to refrain from stepping on the MEGASUV train.

The project "V616" within Volvo Cars means according to the internal Utvecklingsnomenklaturen: 6-largest car type, 1-first generation, 6-SUV/crossover. Project V616 is supposed to be able to premiere appears sometime 2022-23, then as Volvo XC100. The Exteriörmåtten becomes sturdy with Swedish standards: axle spacing at 3.1 meters, length of 5.2 meters, 1.8 meters high and two meters wide, a hefty piece simply. Did we hear the nickname "Volvo Sow" again?
SPA 2 is prepared for different degrees of electrification: mild hybrid, hybrid and as battery-elbil. Värstingversionen "T12 Multi Engine" with Tvåliters VEA Drive-E gasoline engine plus three electric motors (one front, two rear) get more than 600 horsepower but drivlinemässigt will of course milder options.
Volvo XC100

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Much of the design is taken from the autonomous concept car Volvo 360c. Count on turgid dimensions.

In design terms, the style managers - German Thomas Ingenlath, Englishman Robin Page together with Österrikefödde Maximilian Missoni - will continue on the wrapped line with balanced, well-balanced design. Just design has become a strong core value of "The new" Kinesägda Volvo Cars, but expect a tougher attitude such as the concept car 360c exhibited.
The interior stepper XC100 up further design with, above all, Scandinavian style grips and material choices. "Stripped-down luxury" is a mantra that sells and Volvo customers have taken in the new, more luxurious style of hull and hair. Also count on a sexsitsig version of XC100 for the extra comfortable comfort cruise, something that is specially sought in China with its long distances and increasingly dense traffic. However, the current XC90 will be pre-configured with its configuration. XC100 is, of course, prepared - Like all future Volvo - for different degrees of autonomous self-driving and fast network connection for the most comfortable trip.

Volvo XC100 is just one of several brand new car types that will be streamlined and developed within the continued strongly growing Geely group.
 
#3 · (Edited)
Hmmm, styling looks like a cross between the new XC40 and old XC70 . . . Doesn't quite move me yet like seeing the XC90. (I see now why angling the trunk makes a stylistic difference.) Maybe I need to see more views than what's shown here? Perhaps this can finally hold a 4'x8' plywood sheet or drywall flat on the floor? Thx for sharing.
 
#5 ·
Oh gosh no, those X7 grills IMO look quite disproportionate and too ostentatious - doesn't seem to be the Scandinavian / Volvo way. I hope Volvo never "follows" BMW (or anyone else) but continues to blaze its own path :)
 
#7 · (Edited)
If it helps Volvo sell more cars in the US, I'm looking forward to it. 600hp and twin rear motors does sound fun.
But I doubt how many full size SUVs will be sold. If it is like volume of V90/V90CC, it will be quite sad.
Even for Escalae, QX80, LX570 , X7, Navigator, how many of them are sold each year? Quite low volume I guess.

The 600HP could be a dream if given to 90 and 60 series P* engineered cars. But Volvo don't want to be fast and furious. :(
 
#8 ·
I can be nostradamus and body lett Volvo that the XC100 won't sell! They may as well bin it before being considered for production and my prediction is simply because Volvo has stubbornly decided to stick to their 4 cylinder 2L engine and their not so useful electric motor for long distance drive.

Who wants to have a heavier car powered by a choking 4cylinder engine? Introduce 3L and 4L engines and maybe, just maybe, the XC100 may appeal to buyers of bigger and longer cars.

The Range Rover's 2L hybrid doesn't sell as well as its 3L/5L engine equivalents. Unless, Volvo wants to sell 1 XC100 every blue moon.

I for one, wouldn't even look in Volvo's direction for that sized SUV if powered by this 4pot 2L engine.

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#53 ·
I would love a bigger Volvo. I am now trading in my Q7 for an X7. It's hideous-looking, but the experience inside is, imho, worth the trade-off.
I remember you left the XC90 for the Q7. What happened to the Q7???
 
#16 ·
I mentioned some years ago I'd be for an 'XC120' if it were as large as an Escalade ESV and had a Turbo/Super Charged V6, or better yet V8 but that'd be a pipe dream. But I think we all know a vehicle that large isn't coming out of Volvo, unfortunately... I'd be all over it.
 
#18 · (Edited)
In an EV extender, you get a powerful ICE and a similarly powerful e-motor. It is a pity if they are not used simultaneously to create much higher power, on a car that expensive.
This is the dilemma of EV extender.

So a P*1 style hybrid power train still makes more sense.

But maybe there is another way to simplify the gear box to 3 high speed gears so that ICE only drives the wheels from 40mph to 120mph, and e-motor is used 0 to 60mph.
And of course ICE generates electricity as needed. This setup may not be great for 0-60 racing but will be all good in practical driving.

The 7DCT in XC40 PHEV is a clever use to let e-motor also drive at high speed. But how to tune the 7DCT clutch mechanism for higher torque use is still a challenge.
Also another thing is the e-motor has to stay close to the 7DCT, while still need another motor on rear axle for regenerative braking and driving.
 
#19 ·
I wouldn't call it XC100, that sounds so cheap. I think of that crappy Hyundai, the XG350. Stick to two digit numbers.

I'd take the current XC90 and down it to the XC80, make this hulking, unnecessary, monstrosity the XC90. It can lumber around with QX80s and Yukon XLs that fat Americans can roll in and out of. I'm sure it will be a big hit.
 
#22 ·
Volvo reads our comments and so, we shouldn't be surprised seeing them introduce the new nomenclature as suggested on here

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#28 ·
New XC100 in the future

I've heard Volvo has a new model down the road that is bigger than the XC90 and may be the new flagship for the brand.

Has anyone heard any more information regarding the XC100???
 
#50 ·
#30 ·
if you need something bigger than a 90, you might want to consider downsizing yourself.

the most hilarious, and slightly gross, thing I see on the road is a single blonde chick driving a Yukon XL...absolute waste of resources.
 
#42 ·
Man, I already think my XC90 is massive. With the third row down there is so much space in the back. I don't have to use my cargo box anymore when I go camping or skiing; everything fits inside easily as is.
 
#45 · (Edited)
https://www.autoexpress.co.uk/volvo.../106855/new-volvo-suvs-models-larger-than-xc90-and-smaller-than-xc40-considered

There is recent hint again on a bigger than XC90, and also a smaller SUV below XC40.
XC30 would be a good idea, haha. But I hope they don't give up the new S/V40.

Now that they may have resource to work on new models, I hope they stick to some interesting model for long time and create another legendary model.
For their wagon models, I hope they create a small wagon/hatchback V40/CC and merge V60 and V90 to one model for bigger wagon, V70/CC for example.
A more luxury interior of V70/CC could replace V90, and a simple practical trim to replace V60.

The V40/CC could be like Golf-R. XC30 could complete with audi A2, BMW X1, etc.

And also, a coupe/hardtop convertible on 60- platform.
 
#47 ·
I hope this is true. I love my XC90, but I also love my new 2019 Lincoln Navigator. Two of the best interiors (and exteriors) on the market right now in my opinion. There is nothing wrong with large vehicles.
 
#56 ·
So how many people will this new vehicle hold???
 
#62 · (Edited)
"We are not excluding the idea of additions, especially in very core segments like the SUV. I think we are looking into this possibility now. You should not exclude the idea that there might be a bigger one, but maybe also a smaller one. We will surprise you about that in the future." ~Håkan Samuelsson

Volvo considering new flagship above XC90, little crossover below XC40

Long-talked-about XC100 could be coming by 2023

By Jonathon Ramsey

"While on the way to selling 373,525 cars globally in 2010, then-Volvo CEO Stefan Jacoby said he believed the brand could double volume to 800,000 units by 2020. Having sold 340,826 Volvos around the world in the first half of 2019, current CEO Hakkan Samuelsson not only sees no need to back down from that prediction, the company is at work on the next steps for expansion. Samuelsson told Auto Express that after filling apparent holes in the carmaker's lineup, "we are not excluding the idea of additions," and that when it comes to crossovers, observers "should not exclude the idea that there might be a bigger one, but maybe also a smaller one."

According to a story in Swedish outlet Teknikens Varld from May, Volvo has been circling the idea of a flagship XC100 ever since the first XC90 launched in 2002. The story says that Volvo knew then that the XC90 was too small compared to the largest competitor offerings, but tight reins on the purse during Ford ownership meant cars were a better use of resources. Geely's takeover in 2010 has opened up the treasure chest. The success of the SPA platform and the models on it has encouraged a return to developing the XC100 on the future SPA2 architecture, the vehicle said to be dubbed internally, "Project V616." The codename breaks down into 6 for the largest cars, 1 for a first-generation model, the second 6 denoting an SUV/crossover. TV says XC100 is slated to arrive in 2022 or 2023, with measurements about five inches longer than the current XC90 on a five-inch longer wheelbase, and sit about an inch taller.

A sub-XC40 entry has been predicted for a while, but no one's homed in on its final form yet. AE suspects it will use technology from parent company Geely, and could be leased only instead of sold. An electric powertrain has been suggested, which would make sense considering vehicles in the class and the fact that an electric XC40 is on the way.

On the subject of where expansion could come, Samuelsson said, "We will surprise you about that in the future." But before the surprises arrive, Volvo will complete its current lineup with a new V40, which is expected to turn into a "pseudo-SUV," as well as expand with that EV XC40 plus an electric XC90."

https://www.autoblog.com/2019/07/22/volvo-bigger-smaller-suvs-xc100/

I'm looking forward to the all-electric XC100, maybe 4 electric motors, one on each wheel, like the Rivian R1S. And a big frunc.
 
#63 ·
Good, so after they introduce it with all the breath taking promotion, we shall definitely wait 2-3 years before it is usable and without essential bugs :) (see XC90 2015-2016 etc.)