Not sure where you live, but it's also temperature related. Typically I don't get quite as much range in winter as I do in summer.

 

I came here to post the exact thing that I am experiencing! I started off in May when I received my 2022 XC60 Recharge T8 with 45miles per full charge. Little by little that has been decreasing..the latest being 39 miles per full charge. And although it is colder this time of year, the temperature in my garage has been over 50 degrees lately.
Does the battery lose its capacity over time?

 

The estimated range is just that - an estimate. Cold weather losses are in the 30 - 50% range. Take it on a test drive to confirm the estimate is accurate.

My T8 shows 20 miles at moderate temps and 14 miles below freezing, but the actual range in freezing weather is around 18 miles because I disable the HVCH most of the time.

 

Thanks for the replies. Most PHEV manufacturers state that they will replace the hybrid battery if the range decreases by 30% in the warranty period (typically 8 years) therefore the fact mine has decreased close to 24% in under 8 weeks of ownership is not a good sign. I am in Australia where my garage has a consistent temp. Not overly hot or cold. As a consumer there is a super poor experience as the range was one key aspect that made me purchase this vehicle. Not impressed. Fingers crossed Volvo can look into a fix.

 

You're in Australia, so you're about to enter the Summer....this should not be happening to your vehicle IMO. I'm in North America and it's a warm 38F today (about 4C). My battery says that it had 38 miles of range (about 60km) this morning - and there is absolutely NO WAY I got that distance in the real world.

 

I wish there was a way to see actual battery health. Can a dealer perform a capacity check? We regularly are required to perform these on the jets I fly at work. The “range” display seems to be nothing more than a guess at best and definitely not something I’d use to determine if my battery is losing capacity.

 

I am from Sydney as well. And in average, pure EV range is between 60 - 65km. Sometimes, I could reach 70km and sometimes 58km.

I don't see there is any problem with a fully charged battery and showing only 58 km. As the range estimate is based on the last X minutes or X hours of consumption.

If I could manage to get 70km in one charge. The next fully charged battery will show range of 70km. If I did some hilly route that day, the range estimate will drop to 58km when fully charged.

I would say your xc60 Recharge is fine. The 77km advertised range is at ideal condition which we will never able to achieve that in real life. 60km is pretty much the real world range +/- 3km.

 

This is based off our 2022.5 XC90 but as far as I have noticed the estimated range isn't affected by your garage temp. It SEEMS like it's more of a reflection of your last trip(s). If it was hotter outside and because of that your range went down the next estimate will reflect that. If it was cold outside and your range was down then your next estimate after charging will reflect that. If you dropped the hammer around town and your range went down, etc. As far as I can tell estimated range is a prediction based on facts from the past. To get the advertised range you have to be DRIVING in just about ideal 68F, between 6-40MPH. With an egg under your foot.

 

I notice the estimate starts to drop below maybe 60°, but in reality isn't affect that much until below 50°. When colder than that, the estimate is much lower, and reality is even worse.

 

Sorry for your experiences, Sydney Vovlo. Not sure how responsive Volvo Australia is with warranty issues. Best of luck

Also for other board posters, keep in mind its summer in Sydney so its the use of the A/C or extreme temps above 85 degrees F or 30 degrees C that is at issue for decreased range. Speed is also a factor. i think you are in normal battery parameters. Within the USA, getting battery replaced under warranty will be a complicated process IMHO.

Is there any meter that we or the dealer can access that talks about battery capacity vs new, Such as the iphone has? I have had apple replace those batteries but I am imaging the car is more complicated. However maybe it is modular and and parts can be replaced in pieces. Does anyone have more information or experiences.

 

I have had varying ranges with mine as well, but it has gotten colder and I've also been using the additional heater to warm up the cabin in electric only mode, so my range has decreased a bit. The most I ever saw with my S60 PE was 77 km, or about 45 miles. Now it is closer to 63 km, or about 39 miles.

 

I have had varying ranges with mine as well, but it has gotten colder and I've also been using the additional heater to warm up the cabin in electric only mode, so my range has decreased a bit. The most I ever saw with my S60 PE was 77 km, or about 45 miles. Now it is closer to 63 km, or about 39 miles.

Sucks that it drops, but you're still giving me ER Range Envy!

 

Mine too has dropped. I go the car at the end of October and its range was 42 miles, put this down to temperature. In the real cold weather it went down to 32 miles, its starting to warm up again and I got 35 miles yesterday.

I am hoping in the summer it gets closer to 50 miles as the temperature improves however I really wasn’t expecting it to drop so much in the cold as its gone down to 62% of design full capacity. Even if I go on the 40/32 its 20% drop for only a few degrees temperature variance.

I will give it more time to settle but as I have a close friendly relationship with he service manager I don’t expect an issue if it needs sorting.


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‘23 model T8, got 42mi range in summer, getting 28mi in winter

 

And I bet like me you are hoping it reverts in the warmer weather.

 

Weather has heated back up here in Ireland was expecting the range to jump back up to around 70km but I'm still only get 48km today in handy driving no air con or heating.
Anyone figured out a way to reset it, I'm sure the range is there it's just not giving it to me on the clock.

 

I have owned a XC60 Recharge T8 2024 model for only a few months and have noticed a rapid decline in the range of the battery - seems that with every charge (via normal power point at home using Volvo supplied charging cable) that it has gone from charging up to 73km of electric range to now only charging up to a max of 59km - car has gone back to Volvo a few times for a software reset however this hasn't helped.
Has anyone else experienced something similar? I understand that the electric range you actually obtain is based on driving habits as well as accessories used during the actual drive however surely the battery should at least start the day with the ability to reach at least 70 odd kms (advertised at 77kms range ability) rather than an ever decreasing amount.

Look forward to hearing from anyone either experiencing same OR enjoying the experience of always obtaining a high charge. Thanks

I have the T8 with same issue, things have been reset but it only goes to around 60km on slow charge. I have been given a leaflet about what to expect (market stuff), but i think its unreasonable to believe that there is a 20KM difference from the advertised amount to what the battery charges. Its remarkable that it seems that 75% is also how much the engine charge goes too. I suspect that there is an issue that needs to be looked at by volvo, especially if we are getting same response from services. Not a good look for Volvo........

 

I've got a MY23 T8 recharge also in Australia that I've had for 1 year now, I've only filled it up with petrol 3 times during that period, the rest has been all electric (driven 6000km) When I charge now I usually only get around 50-55k actual driving range from a full charge using EV only. I was wondering if Volvo had a warranty on the battery if it drops below a certain % but couldn't find anything about it on the Volvo AU site.

 

Reply yes they do it’s a percentage over 8 years, can’t remember the amount

 

In Australia also, had mine for nearly a year and I'm at 60km on a full recharge. Started at around 75 from memory.......

 

December, start of summer, just charged up and 65km range

 

I really do not understand how people reason.
When you drive aggressively, your range estimate on your ICE drops. Do you assume your gas tank is leaking?
If not, why do you assume there is something wrong with your battery when your EV range estimate drops?

 

Well written.

 

Too hot is as bad as too cold for lithium cells.

 

Agreed. A/c bad. Lots of A/c plus out of ideal operating temp worse. Similar with physical heat or seats or steering wheel.

 

I have owned a XC60 Recharge T8 for only a few months and have noticed a rapid decline in the range of the battery - seems that with every charge (via normal power point at home using Volvo supplied charging cable) that it has gone from charging up to 73km of electric range to now only charging up to a max of 59km - car has gone back to Volvo a few times for a software reset however this hasn't helped.
Has anyone else experienced something similar? I understand that the electric range you actually obtain is based on driving habits as well as accessories used during the actual drive however surely the battery should at least start the day with the ability to reach at least 70 odd kms (advertised at 77kms range ability) rather than an ever decreasing amount.
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Look forward to hearing from anyone either experiencing same OR enjoying the experience of always obtaining a high charge. Thanks

Not sure where you live, but it's also temperature related. Typically I don't get quite as much range in winter as I do in summer.

 

Winter tends to deplete them where hot hot weather tends to destroy them, I've not got an EV/Hybrid myself...yet! but I have been on the ecigs for over ten years now so fully up to spec with what the cells react to good & bad, when I say about hot I mean 40+ constantly but the rapid charging does as much damage in cars that can really charge "fast". Saw an American Uber driver with a 2 yr old S iirc & his cell pack is shot, supercharged 2x a day but he's over the 100k miles limit so Tesla have declined to fix it for him.

 

I wouldn't worry too much. I live in Thailand where it averages 34-36 degrees and car sits in the heat all day and i get varying km as well. My daily work commute is 35 km each way and if i sit in the traffic with AC blasting the battery runs out just before returning home on D mode...if no traffic i have 2-3% left. If I am on freeway it lasts a lot longer.
My fuel gauge said 1150km when i filled up 3 weeks ago and that obviously isn't correct either. Once again, working on the averages.
For the record my app says i get 3.1L/100km which i believe as i am rarely filling up, so i am not complaining.
I have done 35 000km all in Hybrid mode in less than 12 months so my averages should be fairly consistent.

 

So I have had my 2023 XC60 T8 Recharge Ultimate for just over a month now. I'm in South Florida so temperature has been between 60-80F for my Recharge times.
When I first picked up the car in San Diego the dealer had it fully charged and said 35 miles of range, I drove it to Northwest Florida, took 3 days, and stayed at my dad's house and charged it up there fully and it was quite cool, maybe in the 40's so had again 35 miles of range.
The first few times I charged it down here it showed 44 miles of range and has slowly dropped to 40 miles of range on a full charge.
Maybe the car is just learning my driving style and giving me a more realistic and accurate estimate based on a month worth of my driving habits.
I understand that, but man it does suck to see the estimated range on a full charge dropping a mile every week. I'm certain it would be the same situation with any other vehicle and I'm still getting use to the PHEV as this is my first. This is my experience so far.

 

I have the same vehicle, same year, also purchased in San Diego. Had it for 13 months now.

At first I was quite giddy after purchase that the battery was charging up to 42 miles - that lasted several months. Then into the Winter months when it got a bit colder (yeah, I know, it doesn't exactly 'snow' here in San Diego) it hovered around 38....then 37. Now Spring is here, things are a bit warmer, I'm still seeing around 37 for now.

As the machine is advertised as 35, I consider even a mile over that after a year as satisfactory.

 

As has been said time and time again, this is normal behaviour…

 

It may be 'normal' but it is not expected by us 1st time owners of a battery operated vehicle so I think it takes people by surprise seeing it drop constantly.
It for sure isn't part of the advertised literature of these kinds of vehicles and outside of the forums I've never seen or read an article about it.
If people posting about their experience is so annoying to you maybe you shouldn't read them.

 

It for sure isn't part of the advertised literature of these kinds of vehicles and outside of the forums I've never seen or read an article about it.

Maybe you need to read more articles or look at YouTube videos. This is sooooo common…

If people posting about their experience is so annoying to you maybe you shouldn't read them.

This is unwarranted and is a stupid sentence.

 

Maybe you need to read more articles or look at YouTube videos. This is sooooo common…



This is unwarranted and is a stupid sentence.

And yet you feel compelled to respond to things you think are common and stupid...😘

 

Aside from weather, it's really all about how you drive. If you drive quite aggressively, the range will decrease. If you drive conservatively, the range will be what is advertised or better. What I have found is that going for long drives where you use up the whole battery and are able to regain some range through regenerative braking increases the range the next time you charge. On one experience, driving back to San Francisco from Yosemite involved quite a bit of downhill where I just let my regen brakes slow the car for me, I barely used the mechanical brake. I must have regen about 20-25 miles of range through the whole trip which I also used. When it came time to recharging the battery from 0% to 100%, the computer stated I had 54 miles of range. That range returned to the normal 42 after a few drives because it adapted back to how I regularly drive.

 

There are so many factors contributing to the range you actually get.

Run the heat or AC, open the windows, drive at 70+ MPH...your range is going to go down, in some cases plummet.

I've had three XC60 T8s, all have had a high of about 42 miles and a low of 35 miles depending on temp. To try to get the most range, I pre-condition in the winter and always run in "B" / Regen drive mode.

I have a commute of 22 miles and charge exclusively at work...get home with 15 - 20 miles of range remaining on most days. I leave super early for work (just so I can get my pick of the chargers, haha) and with no traffic that remaining 15-20 is long gone before I arrive as I'm doing 75-80 on the Mass Pike.

In my experience, I don't think there is anything wrong with the OP's battery.