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V70 T6 impressions

6.7K views 37 replies 18 participants last post by  Lotus99  
#1 ·
Hi guys, I am the proud new owner of an Electric Silver V70 T6, and I though I might offer my impressions on the new car. I received the vehicle a few days ago, and have since already put a few hundred kilometers on it.

I set out to purchase a wagon as cycling is a favorite past time of mine, and I need something with a lot of space. Large offroaders were out of the question as I hate the way they handle. Considering this, I quickly drew up a list of wagons consisting of the V70, 530i touring, E350 estate and the Audi A6 Avant. Having taken all of these vehicles for extensive test-drives, I was most impressed with how far Volvo has come in building a competitive vehicle for the market. In terms of price, the Volvo was 30-50 thousand dollars AU cheaper than all the other mentioned makes, and lost absolutely nothing in its quality feel or presentation.

Fit and finish wise the Volvo was a strong first for me. I was truly amazed at how well put together this car feels, and the solidity to everything in the vehicle (which probably goes someway to explaining the excessive weight of the vehicle). In stark contrast the Merc felt positively cheap, and the BMW tinny in the weighting of all the major controls. Only the Audi got close, and even here the Volvo was still ahead. Comfort wise the Swedes still do it best, with lush leather and fantastic seats, although a little down on rear seat space to the larger E-class, although probably on par with the BMW and Audi. Cabin design is a real scandanavian hallmark, and I can't get enough of the intuitive design of the Volvo dash and cabin. Extremely easy to use and it looks great. The Volvo navigation system does take some getting used to, and is outdated in its design, but it does look so cool popping out of the dash.

Drivetrain wise the Volvo is every bit the equal of the Germans here. Fantastically refined, with perfect smoothness right up until the 7000rpm redline. I was amazed at the similarity in the sound of the Volvo inline six to the BMW six. The Volvo is so well insulated it rivals the Merc for refinement, and is definitely one of the quietest cars I have driven in a very long time. The 6 speed automatic was smooth in the Volvo, although a little but slugish sometimes, although quite responsive in sport mode. Performance is excellent, with zero lag, which was a very pleasant surprise. Interestingly despite the power advantage the Volvo has, factory specs suggest the Germans are quicker, although the Volvo felt more so on the road. Fuel economy is not a Volvo strong point though. Figures suggest a 11.3 litres per 100km is obtainable, although I'm not getting anywhere near that (more like 14L per 100km), and other owners I know haven't either. It's early days yet, but I believe this to be a very optimistic figure. (sorry you will have to do the conversions guys!)

Handling wise, the BMW was my choice for a sporty drive, and the Merc for outright ride quality. I found the Audi to be a little bit of a dissapointment, although it felt solid, the knobbly ride quality became annoying at times and it didn't handle as well as the bimmer. Volvo has come a long way in tuning a decent chassis, and I was quite impressed. The car seems quite light on its feet for something pushing 2 tonnes, and the 4C technology has come a long way since I last drove a V70 R a couple of years ago. It's still not perfect though, with comfort being too wallowy, and advanced crashing a little, but it is now quite a decent system, and I find myself changing the settings when I hit nice winding roads, or really bad patchy roads which we see a lot of in Australia - which means the system does work. Steering feel does need to be improved though, wooden steering seems to be a common trait in modern Volvo's, and although it probably doesn't matter in a family hauling wagon, A bit of steering feel would brighten up an otherwise (slightly) dull driving experience immeasurably.

Well there ya have it. I haven't covered everything but that gives you a bit of a taste of the V70 T6. I believe this is a car that should definitely be brought to the USA, as it is an extremely good package. To be honest, the V70 is a fantastic car in very many ways, but truly does need the T6 engine to brighten it up. Whilst it is very capable, I could see it being a little boring without the bigger engine.

Just for referece, the vehicle is a V70 T6 with family pack which includes the Navigation system, and rear DVD entertainment system. Standard T6 goodies including 4C, 18inch wheels etc.
 
#2 ·
Re: V70 T6 impressions (volvoAWD)

Quote, originally posted by volvoAWD »
Figures suggest a 11.3 litres per 100km is obtainable, although I'm not getting anywhere near that (more like 14L per 100km), and other owners I know haven't either. It's early days yet, but I believe this to be a very optimistic figure. (sorry you will have to do the conversions guys!)

11.3 l/100 km = 20.8 mpg
14.0 l/100 km = 16.8 mpg
 
#3 ·
Re: V70 T6 impressions (volvoAWD)

Congrats on the new car! Already redlining it, eh?
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The city fuel economy on the T6 XC70 (while a bit heavier) is supposed to be 13.7 L/100 km, so 14 isn`t bad at all for a brand new car...
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On the XC70, the steering feel can be helped a bit by turning up the sensitivity thru the controls if you have the Convenience package. Not sure if yours has that, but you should look into it. Your package names are probably not the same as ours.

Enjoy the car!
 
#4 ·
Re: V70 T6 impressions (volvoAWD)

Get ready for the avalanche of posts from Needs, njb and others about stupid VCNA not selling the V70 T6 AWD w/ 4C here in the USA.

Stupid VCNA
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But I sure do love that T6 imy XC70.

Rumor has it Yannis went to VCNA, maybe he can talk some sense into those buffoons. Given Volvo's US sales figures, they can't afford NOT to bring over everything they have, like the V70 T6, diesels, high mileage 4cyl C30/S40/V50, powershift...
 
#7 ·
Re: V70 T6 impressions (rovermark)

If it was better priced, I would have ordered 4C, but it is presently a standalone option on the XC at AU$4175, which is quite chunk of change when the I6 starts at AU$59,950. I doubt the take up rate is high !

But, as noted in the first post, it is standard equipment on the Australian V70 T6 (starting RRP AU$69,950)...
 
#8 ·
Re: V70 T6 impressions (BarentsBlueV50)

Quote, originally posted by BarentsBlueV50 »
Get ready for the avalanche of posts from Needs, njb and others about stupid VCNA not selling the V70 T6 AWD w/ 4C here in the USA.


...and don't forget posts from V70 Brad.
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#11 ·
Re: V70 T6 impressions (rovermark)

Quote, originally posted by rovermark »
Maybe if Americans were willing to pay more, the 4C would be available. But not for the prices you pay.

In Canada, Australia, and the UK, Volvos are significantly more expensive than in the U.S. In those countries, the 4C is available.

No worries mate. Our government is doing or plans to do all the stupid things that will eventually make everything just as expensive here
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#14 ·
Re: V70 T6 impressions (TennesseeJed)

Quote, originally posted by TennesseeJed »


No worries mate. Our government is doing or plans to do all the stupid things that will eventually make everything just as expensive here
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Not sure what our tax rate system which supports the various government programs has to do with the cost of cars here... maybe you can explain your logic.

If we were arguing about the US getting universal health care for everyone, that's one thing, but the fact that the Canadian consumer seems willing to spend more on a Volvo than an American would, seems to me the opposite of what you're saying - we would have to have MORE money, not less than you, to be able to do so... which isn't necessarily the case.

The market's different here. Go on the Canadian Audi forum, BMW forum, you'll see the same thing. Those cars cost way more than the US exchange rate would justify. People here over the last year or two went south because of that, and the belief that the manufacturers were profiting too much from us Canadians!
 
#16 ·
Re: (Paolo)

Quote, originally posted by Paolo »
Americans, stop with tears.
You are the richest people in the world, you must learn to pay the cars like other peoples.

bye

Italians, stop with silly comments.
You are the...well, I don't know what you are, but you must learn to tear down the barriers to the free market that make you pay so much for your cars.

ciao
 
#17 ·
Re: (Munin)

Quote, originally posted by Munin »


Italians, stop with silly comments.
You are the...well, I don't know what you are, but you must learn to tear down the barriers to the free market that make you pay so much for your cars.

ciao

I may agree with your comment (esp with the first line...
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) but, while the conclusion is valid for many goods, this is not necessarily the case for cars.

The list price for a car in Italy is the same of what you find in Germany - at least for the main makers (while differences may exists due to different incentives coming from the different governments).

Regards
Stefano
 
#20 ·
Re: V70 T6 impressions (Needsdecaf)

To our Italian contingent (which I didn't know we had): Benvenuto!

And Grazie for your thoughts.
 
#21 ·
Re: V70 T6 impressions (MAC1LSR)

Quote, originally posted by MAC1LSR »
To our Italian contingent (which I didn't know we had): Benvenuto!

And Grazie for your thoughts.

Thanks
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I read since a while, but I post only rarely. Sometimes in an Italian forum I like to post links to this one as I find some threads and comments quite interesting and providing a different point of view.

Coming back to the topic: I own an XC70 D5 (185HP) since a month and a half and I've now burned about 6000km. Before I had a V70 mk II 2400D 163HP. I also own an old V40.

I liked the review in the first post of this thread and I agree with most of the comments coming from VolvoAWD. This is just a great car: good interiors, well assembled, easy to drive. I can drive 500km in complete relax and silence. The engine has more than enough torque and is very reliable. I also really like the behavior of the AWD over this large, heavy car: I never drove an AWD and I'm just loving it.

Moving to the market, the main difference with US is the well-known fact that in Europe an auto-maker goes no-where without diesel engines: in our case, we have a great D5, but the competitors goes with the 3.0 in Audi and especially BMW.

As I wrote, the D5 is an excellent, reliable engine that I love and the new 205HP seems to be a good improvement; but I understand that someone may prefer the BMW 3.0 (even if I don't think it is as reliable as the D5). It would be great if could have a D6 derived from the T6.

Regards
Stefano
 
#22 ·
Re: V70 T6 impressions (sferr)

Yes, It's good to hear from our Italian friends.

Our Volvo professionals say they need a practical car for practical people that they can sell a lot of at full margin. I doubt it the V70 T6 is that car.

I think the way you have described it is very appealing other than the mileage. 15 MPG just won't cut it in the market place. Gas prices may be down, but people look over their shoulders and see $4.00 a gallon gas and say, "I don't want to go there again." I realize $4 for a gallon may look inexpensive to our Italian amici, but in the US it is terrifying.

My VR does 20+ in everyday driving, and considerably better on the highway. Ciao, amici.
 
#24 ·
Re: V70 T6 impressions (Lotus99)

Sausca,

There are a few people like me, Needsdecaf, (maybe JRL) that would gladly pay MSRP for a V70 T6 AWD R-Design. I'd be happy with the GT, but I'm confident the other two would pay even more for a 6MT with no qualms, especially considering how JRL likes the XC60.

All Volvo needs to do is make the panorama sunroof an option on the V70/XC70 and bring the V70 T6 AWD R-Design.
 
#25 ·
Re: V70 T6 impressions (njb8199)

I can't say I would GLADLY pay MSRP, but I would sure like the opportunity to buy what you have described. AWD isn't much of a positive for me since I rarely drive in the wet let alone cold, and it has a negative effect on mileage (which is important to me, I do 20K a year).

The shame is that all of the parts are in the bin, and if only Volvo, or maybe just VCNA, had the will, we could have some nice Volvo choices.

However for 10% maybe 15% more there are some serious alternatives. I expect the Jag XF wagon will be roughly 50K, the CTS wagon probably 7.5K less than that, an Acura wagon probably even money with the V70, a two year old A6 Avant 30K.

The real shame is that an R could be produced for very little money. I am still waiting to see the list of unique R pieces, what, maybe the oil pan? Everything else is just a question or ordering the parts.

But I have driven Volvos for long enough, no problem with an Audi or Jag in the garage.
 
#26 ·
Re: V70 T6 impressions (Lotus99)

Quote, originally posted by Lotus99 »
Benvenuto Sferr! Which city are you from?

Complimenti on your English also!

Thanks Lotus99. I live a small city in the N.W. near to the Alps and not far from the French frontier. When I ordered the XC70 I was excited like a kid as I was willing to use it during the winter; this year we had really huge snowings...unfortunately it arrived only in Feb.

I've been often reading your comments, not always positive, about the XC70; did you resolve the problem with the AWD?

Regards
Stefano