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V60 P* Family Road Trip

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#1 ·
Just a few notes and impressions from a recent road trip to the Smoky Mountains--car packed to the gills with luggage and family.

1) This car loves mountain roads and even when loaded up with extra weight the PSS's held on like glue (helped that it was HOT out). As discussed elsewhere, there are amazing roads in this region outside the well-known tourist routes that are often crowded, heavily patrolled and low speed limits.

2) Can't remember who, but someone reported an annoying creaking sound from the front left pillar area (perhaps the ticket/tag holder?). My car now has this annoying syndrome and it is driven by heat and body flex--it only occurs after the car has been out in the sun. It is the trim on the left front pillar. I can replicate the squeak/creak by fiddling with it. Will have to get it fixed as it is highly annoying and chintzy sounding. Hopefully it's a common enough problem that Volvo will know what to do.

3) Mileage was more than acceptable. This car is quite reasonably economical if you want it to be. I tested a few sections of driving like an "economy mode." The km (miles) to empty calculator went crazy a few times, reporting excessive numbers after long stretches of downhill grades.

4) Why is there not (or if there is, it isn't as obvious as it should be) a simple switch from metric to US (or UK) Imperial for the instrument readout? It would be very easy to implement, so I can only assume it di not there on purpose to make cross-border shopping more difficult and expensive. Would have been handy and might have prevented me from getting my first speeding ticket. I doubt it though, as it was a blatant speed trap going down a huge, very long hill on the widest, flattest, smoothest, safest stretch of road the whole trip. Cops hiding behind a barrier just waiting to catch people like me unwilling to ride the brakes the whole way down the hill. There were no other cars within sight of me on my side of the road. $30 ticket, but with a zillion dollars of administrative and court fees. Welcome to North Carolina.

5) Speaking of not riding the brakes, half the reason is because of the brake dust. It is absolutely ridiculous. At one point I as able to use a hose at a motel and cleaned the wheels using a special "touchless" cleaner (that still requires hand rubbing). Within half a day of highway driving (very little braking), they were already in need of a cleaning again. Please someone figure out brake pads that work as well as the Brembos but that don't produce this excessive dust. I am not a clean freak (probably compared to many on here), but if you are someone who wants a clean looking car , you would have to do these wheels every time you drove the car. That is absurd.

6) Using my "urban" 13/13 damper settings, the car was smooth (enough) on the big highways, but could still absorb the ripples and frost heaves on smaller mountain roads and the severely broken pavement you find in every US built-up area save for a few rich enclaves. 10/10 or 8/8 would have been better if the car was empty and I was taking the car on a "run" through the mountains. The good thing is that if I wanted to do that, it would have taken only a few minutes to switch it over for that purpose. But the car was absolutely unflappable. That is more important to me than electronic adjustments that would be more convenient. Nothing upset the car (suspension), ever, for the entire trip. Like driving a true brick. Couldn't be happier.

7) Voice command for Nav is hopeless, as it is in every car. Nav itself was useful sometimes, and useless others. Overall, the interface sucks as the manual entry options is also rather stupid (except for the ability to enter street numbers using the keypad). And the faded edges at night is absurd. My prior cars had a similar night mode with pretend stars at night, etc.--but they didn't reduce the useful size of the screen in the process. The nav screen is already too small and this mode cuts it down significantly. When you can't see as well in the real outside view, you need more information on the nav map, not less. A completely clueless design.

8) In the NC and TN heat, the not-full leather seats were great. Black leather would have burned our backs and butts on many occasions.

9) ACC - no change in my views from the other thread. Handy if you want to drive without paying full attention (or need to momentarily), but contributes to overall road congestion and frustration by turning you into one more lemming-like moron following the bumper in front of you instead of watching far up the road and adjusting behaviour appropriately (the way every safe and competent driver is supposed to drive according to every driver manual and instructor out there). It can glitch if you are changing lanes close behind two cars (if you prevented it from slamming the brakes on when someone driving stupidly in front of you cuts you off). By keeping your foot on the accelerator, you can creep closer to the car in front and then as you switch lanes to go behind a faster moving car in the adjoining lane, the radar sees an open spot and guns it. I had to manually slam on the brakes as the car continued to accelerate as if the other car was not there. And I let it go to the last moment as a test--I was within half a meter (2 feet) of the other car when I hit the brakes as my P* was determined to drive right into the back of the other car).

10) Overall impression is that the car proved why I chose it in the first place. An extremely fun car to toss around any kind of road (not track) with abandon that also happens to be a completely practical family car at the same time. Exactly my definition of perfect if you want only one vehicle.
 
#2 · (Edited)
2) Can't remember who, but someone reported an annoying creaking sound from the front left pillar area (perhaps the ticket/tag holder?). My car now has this annoying syndrome and it is driven by heat and body flex--it only occurs after the car has been out in the sun. It is the trim on the left front pillar. I can replicate the squeak/creak by fiddling with it. Will have to get it fixed as it is highly annoying and chintzy sounding. Hopefully it's a common enough problem that Volvo will know what to do.
This is me. I'll check out this trim piece as well as I still haven't located the vibration.

4) Why is there not (or if there is, it isn't as obvious as it should be) a simple switch from metric to US (or UK) Imperial for the instrument readout? It would be very easy to implement, so I can only assume it di not there on purpose to make cross-border shopping more difficult and expensive. Would have been handy and might have prevented me from getting my first speeding ticket. I doubt it though, as it was a blatant speed trap going down a huge, very long hill on the widest, flattest, smoothest, safest stretch of road the whole trip. Cops hiding behind a barrier just waiting to catch people like me unwilling to ride the brakes the whole way down the hill. There were no other cars within sight of me on my side of the road. $30 ticket, but with a zillion dollars of administrative and court fees. Welcome to North Carolina.
From the manual...
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I doubt anyone needs this part but just in case...

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#10 ·
From the manual...
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I doubt anyone needs this part but just in case...

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OK, I am probably an idiot...but I am using the red theme that already has the digital speed in the middle. If I press OK to access the functions, I get the theme selection. I'll admit I went through the entire settings on the centre screen (where this adjustment should be located), but not the left stalk. I'll look this evening, but don't recall anything other than the theme selection there. Maybe there are a bunch of handy settings I haven't been aware of!?!?!
 
#3 ·
6) Using my "urban" 13/13 damper settings, the car was smooth (enough) on the big highways, but could still absorb the ripples and frost heaves on smaller mountain roads and the severely broken pavement you find in every US built-up area save for a few rich enclaves. 10/10 or 8/8 would have been better if the car was empty and I was taking the car on a "run" through the mountains. The good thing is that if I wanted to do that, it would have taken only a few minutes to switch it over for that purpose. But the car was absolutely unflappable. That is more important to me than electronic adjustments that would be more convenient. Nothing upset the car (suspension), ever, for the entire trip. Like driving a true brick. Couldn't be happier.

10) Overall impression is that the car proved why I chose it in the first place. An extremely fun car to toss around any kind of road (not track) with abandon that also happens to be a completely practical family car at the same time. Exactly my definition of perfect if you want only one vehicle.
Exactly my sentiment from the family road trip. Totally loaded down and completely solid no matter the road surface. I would reiterate that it is firm(I went out 10/10), but it is compliant, with no slack anywhere in the chassis, and that is all the difference in the world.
 
#4 ·
5) Speaking of not riding the brakes, half the reason is because of the brake dust. It is absolutely ridiculous. At one point I as able to use a hose at a motel and cleaned the wheels using a special "touchless" cleaner (that still requires hand rubbing). Within half a day of highway driving (very little braking), they were already in need of a cleaning again. Please someone figure out brake pads that work as well as the Brembos but that don't produce this excessive dust. I am not a clean freak (probably compared to many on here), but if you are someone who wants a clean looking car , you would have to do these wheels every time you drove the car. That is absurd.
My guy told me he found a set of ceramics that fits. We just decided that after my brake issue and based on my driving style, we weren't going to mess with aftermarket pads. He is going to be tied up for the next two weeks moving his shop, but I am going there in two weeks to get my hood panel replaced. I'll find out what he was able to find. Our car has the same brake as a number of AMG cars. The issue is that a lot of the pads come with small metal guide pieces that only allow them to fit on those specific cars. These pieces serve absolutely no purpose. If you grind these guides off, the pads will fit any of that family of Brembos. I don't know if this is the case with the ones he found or not. I'll let you know in a couple of weeks when I find out more.
 
#5 ·
If you want to make the pain of brake dust much easier and don't want to go for the full treatment, just have your wheels OptiCoated.

I have done this on two vehicles and all I do is spray them with a pressure washer. Everything comes off, every time. It rules.
 
#7 ·
Straight assumption , doubtful there will ever be this type of dynamic car at the regional price point ( USA /CN) again ,
Wife and both adult daughters are now asking and driving the wagon
In the beginning they were snickering at the the purchase
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Paddle on enjoy your road trip
Thx for the post
Skyline drive / blueridge parkway
Big on bucket list , even at 30 mph
 
#13 ·
Yes it's normal. I have it happen pretty much anytime I drive in S mode for any extended time regardless of how long I let the car idle before shutting down. It's a safety system to cool the turbo most likely.
 
#14 ·
Unless it's a very short drive, even in cooler weather, my fan always is on when I park it. And yes, the V60P is an awesome road trip car.
 
#15 ·
2) Can't remember who, but someone reported an annoying creaking sound from the front left pillar area (perhaps the ticket/tag holder?). My car now has this annoying syndrome and it is driven by heat and body flex--it only occurs after the car has been out in the sun. It is the trim on the left front pillar. I can replicate the squeak/creak by fiddling with it. Will have to get it fixed as it is highly annoying and chintzy sounding. Hopefully it's a common enough problem that Volvo will know what to do.
I have joined the club about a week ago at less than 4,000 miles. If I grab the A pillar on the driver's side, it is the obvious source of the creak. I presume some felt does the trick, but it is the dealer's job to figure it out. Might go in just for that, don't want to wait until my oil change.
 
#22 ·
Ken,

How long is the expected life of the opti coat on the wheels? I'm guessing the heat of the brakes will make it break down much quicker than the rest of the car. You can get a similar effect by simply waxing the wheels, but will need to reapply fairly frequently because of the heat.
 
#24 ·
Ken,

How long is the expected life of the opti coat on the wheels? I'm guessing the heat of the brakes will make it break down much quicker than the rest of the car. You can get a similar effect by simply waxing the wheels, but will need to reapply fairly frequently because of the heat.
I've been waxing my wheels for a long time. It helps but it is a real pain, particularly to get all the way through the wheel. It does not last very long and it quickly degrades such that pressure washing is not enough to get them clean so you have to do it by hand anyway.

My warranty is 5 years there was no distinction with the wheels. Two months on the XC90 and I have yet to touch the wheels with a brush. Time will tell.
 
#30 ·
Regarding NAV entry, if your car has Volvo On Call telematics and if you also have the Volvo On Call App, you can enter an address in the map function within the app from your phone and click "send to car". When you next start your car, the address will be in the nav. I found this to be the quickest way to enter an address on my 15 V60.

To change measurements, go to My Volvo, then Settings, then System Options, then Distance and Fuel. There you can change from Metric to Imperial to US gallons.


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#32 ·
Now I need to check. I thought speedo changed as well. Will check in a while and come back.

I do remember driving both my daughter's 14 S60 and a borrowed 15 XC60 in the USA that you could get a km/h read out in the lower right part of the instrument cluster, instead of miles to zero, etc. This feature is not on the EU models.
 
#33 ·
Sorry, my bad. I have confirmed it. I can change to MPG and miles but cannot change the speedometer to mph... In some markets rotating the trip odometer info knob on the left stalk can get you instant readout of km/h on an MPH speedometer and vice versa. Interestingly enough this is NOT offered on Swedish market cars... It may have to do with legal requirements by market but I don't know.