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At 20k miles, should I rotate my tires for the first time?

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#1 ·
I'm at 20k miles and have never rotated my tyres. My 2021 XC60 T5 AWD is on the Care by Volvo plan. At the 10k service, I hit the roof when the dealer said I'd have to pay a lot for rotation. I refused. Having paid the exorbitant CbV price, I supposed at least I wouldn't have to pay for anything more. I also supposed I wouldn't keep the car much longer. But it's a great car and the market remains awful for buyers, so here I am (and almost certain to buy it at the end of the 24 months). At the recent 20k service, the dealer didn't mention rotation. They completed the inspection and specifically documented the tyre condition was green in their red/yellow/green assessment. I don't have calipers, but the Washington's head/quarter test checks out, even if I can tell the front has worn more.

So do I just buy four new tyres when any of them wear beyond ~2/32", or is it ok to rotate at this point and possibly squeeze out more miles? I can't figure out if the potentially unique pattern of wear in the front versus rear wear means it's not a good idea to tinker at this late stage.

Thanks for any input!
 
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I would rotate. Any tire (pardon me, tyre) decision should be about safety first. When you find yourself in a downpour you'll want the tyres that shed more water in the front.
What a sleezy dealer btw. That's the type of scam that drives people to independent shops.
 
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I would rotate. Any tire (pardon me, tyre) decision should be about safety first. When you find yourself in a downpour you'll want the tyres that shed more water in the front.
What a sleezy dealer btw. That's the type of scam that drives people to independent shops.
Better tires belong on the back, not the front. Unless of course you want to watch the back end of your car pass you on that wet curve.
 
#4 ·
Reminder that everyone needs a good tire gauge. Excellent tool when negotiating to buy an used car with worn tires. It got me 4 new tires when Carmax tried to sell me a car with a 4/32 and 5/32 tires in the rear. Sales manager thankfully copped for 4 new tires 😎
 
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I'm at 20k miles and have never rotated my tyres. My 2021 XC60 T5 AWD is on the Care by Volvo plan. At the 10k service, I hit the roof when the dealer said I'd have to pay a lot for rotation. I refused. Having paid the exorbitant CbV price, I supposed at least I wouldn't have to pay for anything more. I also supposed I wouldn't keep the car much longer. But it's a great car and the market remains awful for buyers, so here I am (and almost certain to buy it at the end of the 24 months). At the recent 20k service, the dealer didn't mention rotation. They completed the inspection and specifically documented the tyre condition was green in their red/yellow/green assessment. I don't have calipers, but the Washington's head/quarter test checks out, even if I can tell the front has worn more.

So do I just buy four new tyres when any of them wear beyond ~2/32", or is it ok to rotate at this point and possibly squeeze out more miles? I can't figure out if the potentially unique pattern of wear in the front versus rear wear means it's not a good idea to tinker at this late stage.

Thanks for any input!
A tire rotation at the dealers here range from $19.99 - $35.00. That price range is a steal. If your dealers are anything similar, I’d do it. And if buying a set of tires is an afterthought, but paying a small amount for a rotate every year breaks the bank, then you might have some bizarre priorities.


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#8 ·
This is ridicules that Volvo is advertising free service for 3 years but doesn't include tire rotation in the service. They are actually giving you just 3 free oil changes and make big advertisement around it. They never did anything else ( except one time I think they cleaned the windshield in front of the radar camera).
 
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This is ridicules that Volvo is advertising free service for 3 years but doesn't include tire rotation in the service. They are actually giving you just 3 free oil changes and make big advertisement around it. They never did anything else ( except one time I think they cleaned the windshield in front of the radar camera).
For whatever reasons, Volvo does not recommend tire rotations and therefore is not part of the maintenance. I think it’s a poor decision for them. But it’s also important enough to pay for it or do it yourself if you plan to keep your car.

Kind of like why Volvo says the included maintenance is 3 years/36k miles. There is no 36k mile service. It’s just optics. 36k miles sounds better than 30k miles.


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#10 ·
I would just rotate them at this point but be prepared for increased noise if they've never been rotated before. Also, your car should probably be aligned as well or just hold off and do it when you get new tires, which may not be very far away at this point. I never wait to 2/32 to replace them either.
 
#12 ·
Just my two cents: A tire tread depth gauge costs less than a pint of beer. Buy one. If all four corners are wearing evenly, with no odd wear patterns, don't wast time or money rotating them. It's much more important to monitor air pressure. I wish Volvo had a real TPMS. Every other vehicle I've owned in the past 15 years has had it. It's especially convenient in the winter, rather than kneeling in the snow to check tire pressure.
 
#13 ·
Tire rotations not included in free services has been an issue with Volvo for a long time. As you have found, Volvo does not specify tire rotation in their maintenance schedule, so it is not performed as part of those services.

For good, even tread wear, however, tire rotation is important. I can do my own tire rotations but if I were not able to do that, I think the cost of paying the dealership to do it during regular service is worth it in that the even tire wear makes for better and quieter driving experience as the tires wear together.
 
#18 ·
Rotations were not included in the "free" service I got for my BMW either. I don't recall clearly, but I don't think I got it when I had a Lincoln.
 
#16 ·
It is the same process for AWD and FWD cars. I rotate every 5k miles and I typically don't see a difference between front and rear treadwear at those miles.
 
#17 ·
I actually would not rotate if I were the OP. The damage is already done - the wear pattern is established. Rotating now won't change that - it will just cost $ and waste some time. I'd let these tires die their unnatural death. Personally, I rotate every 5,000 miles and I usually just buy a lifetime rotation and balancing policy.

I've been wondering about the rotation demands on the T8, since it basically rear drive in PURE and front drive in HYBRID.
 
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When I took delivery on my 2022 S60 T8 recharge last spring , I did bit of research and found the local discount tire company would sell me a road hazard warranty on the Michelin tires for $220. It included rotation and balancing every 5000 miles as well as repairing routine punctures for free. When I took the car in for the 10,000 mile service (at 11,000 miles) the dealer asked me if I wanted to rotate the tires. I told them I took care of that but asked what it would cost. I understood him to say that they charge $89.
 
#22 ·
I personally always have my tires rotated every 10k service, despite what my SA has been telling me. As a result, both sets of tires on my cars have worn equally. Now I'm on track to get my third set of tires put on it.
 
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#23 ·
Yeah, our 2017 had 45k miles on the factory Pirelli’s that were rotated pretty much every 7-10k miles. The tread wear was even throughout, except the chunks taken out from off roading haha. Put Michelins on and 47k miles later, they are wearing perfectly and have plenty of life left on them.

My 2021’s factory Pirelli’s look brand new after 33k+ miles, and having been rotated three times. I’m going to keep rotating them.


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#24 ·
Hi , Eddie here. My 2012 XC60 Tyres wear more on the front which is natural. I keep the pressures 4 psi above recommended, which keeps them standing taller and less prone to scrubbing . I don't corner fast and I make sure the vehicle is moving slowly and not turn the steering wheel when stationary as that can cause flat spots Obviously the alignment is good with no uneven wear. I am getting close to 2 more Tyres in the next 3 months . The rear ones were fitted 23 months ago & I have not rotated them in that time. I keep my milage to a minimum .
 
#26 ·
I'm at 20k miles and have never rotated my tyres. My 2021 XC60 T5 AWD is on the Care by Volvo plan. At the 10k service, I hit the roof when the dealer said I'd have to pay a lot for rotation. I refused. Having paid the exorbitant CbV price, I supposed at least I wouldn't have to pay for anything more. I also supposed I wouldn't keep the car much longer. But it's a great car and the market remains awful for buyers, so here I am (and almost certain to buy it at the end of the 24 months). At the recent 20k service, the dealer didn't mention rotation. They completed the inspection and specifically documented the tyre condition was green in their red/yellow/green assessment. I don't have calipers, but the Washington's head/quarter test checks out, even if I can tell the front has worn more. So do I just buy four new tyres when any of them wear beyond ~2/32", or is it ok to rotate at this point and possibly squeeze out more miles? I can't figure out if the potentially unique pattern of wear in the front versus rear wear means it's not a good idea to tinker at this late stage. Thanks for any input!
Tell them to stick the car where the sun don’t shine your going back to Toyota.
 
#28 ·
I recently had my 20,000 mile service and paid the $20 or so to have the tires rotated. When I asked why Volvo does not rotate the tires as part of the included service, the service manager said that Volvo does not recommend tire rotation because of increased tire noise and possible vibration problems. He stated that I might experience these issues until the tires wore a bit. This was about 1000 miles back and I really have not noticed any issues.

My front tires were noticeably more worn than the rear and I'm sure would need to be replaced soon if not rotated. This is on a FWD T5. Obviously, they should have been rotated earlier. My experience with every car I have owned over the past 35 years is that front tires always wear faster than the rear, be it AWD, FWD or RWD.
 
#33 ·
Suggest new tires at midpoint between oil changes. Then rotate w/ every oil change. That helps balance the wear more evenly.
 
#34 ·
Thanks for all the wisdom here! I was ready to go to an independent tire place for a $20 rotation (I don't remember precisely, but the dealer wanted dramatically more or of course I would've just had it done while waiting there on the oil change). But then I discovered a nail in the front driver's side tire. Care by Volvo covered a new tire, but now I have one brand new tire on the driver's side, the most worn tire on the passenger's side, and less worn tires in the rear. Maybe I'll go ahead and rotate now.