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Tire recommendations for XC60s

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#1 ·
I am an Uber/Lyft driver part time. I have a 2012 XC60 T6 AWD with the standard 235/60/18 tires. I drive about 35,000 miles/year. My car currently has 170,000 miles.

When I got my car, it came with Hankook Dynapro HP2s, which were fine until it rained. Nearly crashed 3 times due to their horrible wet traction. Once they were worn out, I went for the Sumitomo HTR A/S P02. At $108/each with a 65k treadlife warranty, they were a steal. Gas mileage improved by about 2 MPG (A huge boon for Uber drivers) dry handling improved and they're completely unfazed by wet roads. Even ride quality improved. The only complaint about them is that they're SO. DAMN. NOISY. Also, at 40,000 miles, I've been refused a rotation due to low remaining tread. Well short of the warranty and they're gone. I will not be getting these again.

Therefore I need a new set. Reading reviews is pretty useless, as they all contradict each other and I don't want to make an expensive bad decision. Michelins are supposed to be great, but seem to suffer from early wear issues. Read the same about Bridgestone. The last thing I want is a tire that's twice as expensive but only lasts half as long.

I want a tire that performs as well as the HTRs, but lasts a bit longer and is quieter. Preferably something that doesn't cost $1000 per set, though I am NOT averse to paying for quality.

All that in mind, what thoughts/experiences/advice might you have for someone with serious anxiety and poor decision making?
 
#3 ·
Following this as I am about to order a new set for my car. The ones I have on there now, Pirelli Scorpions, have gotten really loud after only around 17k miles. The tires look cupped- I am suspecting my alignment is out. I have had a good experience with the General RT43 on my XC70 so that's the one I'm leaning toward but am also looking at the Vredestein Quartrac 5.
 
#4 ·
I have had 5 sets of tires on my XC60 and I currently run Continental DWS06 on my car size 235/60R18. I love them. Stick like glue in the dry and do not slip or hydroplane even in the wettest of conditions. I highly recommend them and have been the best set I have ever had on the car.
 
#5 ·
Continental or Michelin then a proper alignment.

DO NOT buy Yokohama or Pirelli on your P3 vehicle. They all eventually cup and cause horrendous road noise. If I had a $1 for every car with bad/loud road noise with either of these two tires, I would be on an island somewhere.

I ripped the Pirelli tires off both of my brand new SPA vehicles and put Continentals from day 1... HIGHLY recommend them.
 
#11 · (Edited)
Continental or Michelin then a proper alignment.

DO NOT buy Yokohama or Pirelli on your P3 vehicle. They all eventually cup and cause horrendous road noise. If I had a $1 for every car with bad/loud road noise with either of these two tires, I would be on an island somewhere.

I ripped the Pirelli tires off both of my brand new SPA vehicles and put Continentals from day 1... HIGHLY recommend them.
I have lifetime alignments from Firestone. Paid for itself in less than a year. :D Is a 2012 XC60 a P3? I originally thought it was, then I was told it was a P2 by the indy I go to. Not arguing, just seeking clarification. Thoughts on the Conti TrueContactTour?

A semi mechanic raised a good point to me today: My Sumitomos have improved my mileage due to their rotations per minute. 725 as opposed to 714 for every other tire in the category. (Info obtained via TireRack) He said it's like going from 22in low profiles to 24.5" on a big rig - it's akin to changing your gearing. He said seeing a mileage jump of 1.5 - 2 MPG would be attained by that type of change, as opposed to tread design.
 
#16 ·
owns 2019 Volvo V90 T6 R-design
#20 ·
Today, I had to replace the Pirelli Scorpion Verde tires that came on my vehicle when new. Despite being conscientious about rotation and scrupulously maintaining the correct pressures, I only got 23K out of them. Very disappointing. I'm interested as to how this compares with others who have run the same tires.
Put new Continental Cross Contacts on today. Film at 11.
 
#24 ·
Looking at replacing our original Michelin Latitude Tour HP w/ 60K miles on them and was at our local Costco, the tire guy recommended to get Michelin X LT A/S @ $188/tire (big-box brand) instead of the Latitude Tour XP @$247/tire. The X LT A/S has a 70K mile warranty vs 55K mile on the Latitude Tour HP.
 
#32 ·
Second the Premier LTX. Very quiet, very stable, very secure feeling. Right after installation we drove from MN to WA and back, and it was wonderfully smooth and quiet all the way. They have also been surprisingly good in the winter snow.

My wife has the Michelin Defender on her XC70 and while they perform quite well, they are rather noisy (a common comment). The tread depth on these at new is 7/32, while the new Premier are 5/32.
 
#34 ·
Our R-Design has Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires on it, had them when we bought it. Wanted to chime in since cupping and noise were mentioned together.

The tires are very quiet, as most all Michelin’s are. I’ve always run Michelin’s, never had a bad set. Car has a shimmy at highway speeds though, and is all but gone when off the throttle. Car is CPO; I left the dealership diagnose it, assuming a worn CV joint or sticking caliper, based on the way it behaves. Instead, they insist the tires are “cupped” and have excessive road force, and refuse any further diagnostic until I replace them (despite being ~5/32” and in otherwise good shape).

Now, the tech in me has 2 issues with this. First, generally a tire vibration isn’t going to change with throttle (speed yes, but not throttle input alone). When it does this, the steering wheel actually shakes left to right. Second, if they truly are cupped...generally a cupped tire will cause noise (as ‘gunshow’ said), not vibration. They were feathered a bit from a bad alignment when I bought the car in July, but have mostly straightened out. Haven’t seen any “cupping” on them myself, but know most techs don’t actually know what cupping is, but throw the term around for any funky wear.

Suggestions? Don’t mean to threadjack, just curious since we’re on the subject of cupping.

Thanks guys,

Joe
 
#36 ·
Our R-Design has Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires on it, had them when we bought it. Wanted to chime in since cupping and noise were mentioned together.

The tires are very quiet, as most all Michelin's are. I've always run Michelin's, never had a bad set. Car has a shimmy at highway speeds though, and is all but gone when off the throttle. Car is CPO; I left the dealership diagnose it, assuming a worn CV joint or sticking caliper, based on the way it behaves. Instead, they insist the tires are "cupped" and have excessive road force, and refuse any further diagnostic until I replace them (despite being ~5/32" and in otherwise good shape).

Now, the tech in me has 2 issues with this. First, generally a tire vibration isn't going to change with throttle (speed yes, but not throttle input alone). When it does this, the steering wheel actually shakes left to right. Second, if they truly are cupped...generally a cupped tire will cause noise (as 'gunshow' said), not vibration. They were feathered a bit from a bad alignment when I bought the car in July, but have mostly straightened out. Haven't seen any "cupping" on them myself, but know most techs don't actually know what cupping is, but throw the term around for any funky wear.

Suggestions? Don't mean to threadjack, just curious since we're on the subject of cupping.

Thanks guys,

Joe
You bring up an excellent point on noise. I have a noise, and I'm not sure if it's tires or the angle gear. It sounds like you're behind an old Honda some kid cut the exhaust off of.... that deep drone sound. At exactly 60 MPH, I can feel a vibration in the gas pedal, which led me to believe that it was drivetrain related, and most likely the angle gear. But I put the car up on ramps and removed the fluid plug and fluid came out, like it wasn't low, and the fluid also looked brand new. So maybe it is the tires, but I don't want to put a set on as a guess, only to find out I've got a $3000 repair... (which I'd trade in before I'd fix something that expensive - making the tire investment a waste)
 
#38 ·
Okay guys, in case you aren't keeping score, here are the results thus far by my count:

4 votes for Michelin, with 2 being for the Premier LTX specifically.
2 Votes for Nokian. The enTyre 2.0 seems to be the best option from where I sit.
3 votes for continental, all 3 for different models.
1 vote for General.
 
#40 ·
I have Michelin Pilot Sport A/S 3+ tires (255/45-20) on my R-design. They have 15,000-miles of service so far. No shimmy, or any thing unusual. They are quiet, great handling in both dry and wet conditions, and adequate in snow.
Treadwear has been dead even across the width. No cupping, or feathering. I run 32 PSI all around and rotate them every 5,000-miles. I am not an aggressive driver (except on certain twisty coastal roads), but no soccer mom either.

Just wanted to add another data point to the discussion.
 
#47 ·
I 've had the following tires on my XC60s. I will try to rate them on a 5 points scale.

1. Pirelli Scorpion Zero Asimmetrico, 18' and 20' wheels. (Handling:3.5, Noise:4, Ride:3.5, Wear:4, Snow:2)
OEM tires, quiet when new, handling is decent on dry and wet surfaces, snow performance really sucks.

2. Michelin Latitude Tour HP, 18' wheels.(Handling:4, Noise:4, Ride:4, Wear:3.5, Snow:3.5)
OEM tires, good but does not excel on any aspects.

3. Continental ExtremeContact DWS06, 19' wheels. (Handling:5, Noise:2, Ride:2, Wear:3, Snow:4)
Handling is best among these tires,super grippy. Noise level was OK when new, got super noisy after 25000 miles, snow performance is great for a all-season tire. Ride is definitely firmer than touring tires. I replaced these at a little over 30000 miles because three tires were already punctured. had about 5/32 tread depth left at that time.

4. Brigestone DUELER H/L ALENZA PLUS, 19' wheels. (Handling:4, Noise:5, Ride:4, Wear:?, Snow:?)
Only had this for over 1000 miles. Handling and ride are on a par with the Michelins but quieter.
 
#48 ·
I'm currently using Firestone Destination LE2s on my 2016 XC60 with 18" wheels. They ride quietly and smoothly and grip well in the wet. Seem to be wearing well too.
 
#52 ·
I think the DWS 06 is the clear winner when it comes to customer satisfaction.

Me? I got that set of HTR A/S P02s warrantied and the second set was something like $350 installed. For that price, I didn't care about the noise. But it gets awkward from there because it turns out the noise was actually a wheel bearing and not the tires. Now, the P02 has been replaced by the P03, which has been on my car since January of 2021. Honestly, these tires went backwards from the P02. Less grippy in the wet, less communicative steering feel, and worse fuel economy. Granted, they aren't bad especially for the price, but they just aren't as good as the P02s were. Moral of the story is there's no free lunch. Just call around to several tire shops and ask them what they recommend for your car, your driving conditions, and your driving habits.
 
#51 ·
+1 Continental DWS06. Have them on 3 vehicles that I look after and have been very happy.
 
owns 2013 Volvo XC90 AWD Platinum