[CDubbsDT]

Just did a 14-50 plug at the weekend house and installed a Wallbox 40 amp.

Worked well on an ER car. About 4.5 hours from empty when set to 40 amps. Same when set to 20 Amps.
The wallbox model is interesting because it allows you to share a circuit and will load balance (reducing amperage for each of 2 or 3 wallboxes).

Did this to future-resist (in case my wife wants to get an XC60 ER)

 

[CDubbsDT]

Just did a 14-50 plug at the weekend house and installed a Wallbox 40 amp.

Worked well on an ER car. About 4.5 hours from empty when set to 40 amps. Same when set to 20 Amps.
The wallbox model is interesting because it allows you to share a circuit and will load balance (reducing amperage for each of 2 or 3 wallboxes).

Did this to future-resist (in case my wife wants to get an XC60 ER)

Not the prettiest job in the world, but I don't think the shed is going to survive long.
The hack job to the left was amazon parts cobbled together to get an outdoor outlet for the battery tender I needed for the diesel Mercedes to start in the cold.

The lead is short on the wallbox. If I were there I would have asked the electrician to mount the box higher.

 

[XC90T8ER]

We just picked up our 2022.5 extended range XC90 (OSD) last night. We had gotten a lease swap of our Chevy Bolt from 2020 to 2022 last month due to the battery recall and in a major life hack, we are getting General Motors to pay for our Volvo plug. We already have a 50A outlet in our garage for our two electric cars. However all new Bolts come with a free outlet installation so I'm using that credit to install a new NEMA 6-20 plug for the Volvo EVSE. The assigned electrician said no problem. The only catch is that Qmerit stipulates that he has to use 60A rated wire from the panel to the outlet but it will be on a 20A breaker. I told him no problem on my end with the thicker wire. It gives me more options in the future. Our panel is located on a completely opposite side of the house from the garage (25 yards away) so this is a very nice benefit. We are having the install done next Tuesday.

 

[pxwang]

Just did a 14-50 plug at the weekend house and installed a Wallbox 40 amp.

Worked well on an ER car. About 4.5 hours from empty when set to 40 amps. Same when set to 20 Amps.
The wallbox model is interesting because it allows you to share a circuit and will load balance (reducing amperage for each of 2 or 3 wallboxes).

Did this to future-resist (in case my wife wants to get an XC60 ER)

In another thread, there was discussion of the 22.5 XC90 recharge having an onboard charger limited to 3.5kW, half the speed of Level 2 charging. And there hasn't been any indication of improvement for MY23.

Are you doing anything different or "overriding" this (if even possible) to get change from zero to empty in 4.5 hours? That's not bad and seems faster than reported change times of 10+ hours.

 

[XC90T8ER]

In another thread, there was discussion of the 22.5 XC90 recharge having an onboard charger limited to 3.5kW, half the speed of Level 2 charging. And there hasn't been any indication of improvement for MY23.

Are you doing anything different or "overriding" this (if even possible) to get change from zero to empty in 4.5 hours? That's not bad and seems faster than reported change times of 10+ hours.

I have only charged once and it said about 5 hours. 5 x 3.5kW less a little bit of a battery reserve % seems about right. 10 hours on 120V seems about right too.

 

[CDubbsDT]

In another thread, there was discussion of the 22.5 XC90 recharge having an onboard charger limited to 3.5kW, half the speed of Level 2 charging. And there hasn't been any indication of improvement for MY23.

Are you doing anything different or "overriding" this (if even possible) to get change from zero to empty in 4.5 hours? That's not bad and seems faster than reported change times of 10+ hours.

Yes, also in driving logs when towing a trailer, it seems like 15kW usable is what the 2022.5 is currently set to.
I was having charging interruptions (likely due to dips or shared neutrals or something else weird with my last house). 110v on a (properly rated) extension cord was taking 11 to 15 hours depending. The extension cord head also got pretty warm with heat transfer from the Volvo cord. I would estimate 110 to 115 degrees F.

I'm out in the other place full time and it's great that local errand trips are recharged in an hour or so.

A bit off-topic, but if anyone's interested, I got about 18MPG towing a uhaul 6x12 trailer fully loaded. Didn't get the chance to weigh it.

It also accelerated from stops to street speeds of 40-50MPH fully on electric while trying to get out of town with no issues.

 

[MtJoy]

How many amps does the t8 pull on 120?

actually measured, with 240V charger, it is 15A.
however, keep in mind, the official guider requires 20A outlet.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

actually measured, with 240V charger, it is 15A.
however, keep in mind, the official guider requires 20A outlet.

It is 12 on 120, but since that question is from 6 years ago, they probably know that by now.

 

[mailingbin]

actually measured, with 240V charger, it is 15A.

My charger only has 10A written on it.

 

[Diesel10]

Hello all, picked my t8 up a few days ago and I’m a massive moron and did not know the plug for a 240 connection looks the way it does - just an absolute brainfart and I chunked it the morning the trash guys came… so now I’m here charging at 110.

I don’t see that volvo sells the 240 plug online so I believe my only option is to install a 1 purchase a new charging station to work with a 14-50 outlet. My question is if there is something in particular I should look for if I’m planning forwhatever charger I purchase to be future-proof at least for a little while, given we plan to add either a tesla or polestar in the future?

 

[XC90T8ER]

Hello all, picked my t8 up a few days ago and I’m a massive moron and did not know the plug for a 240 connection looks the way it does - just an absolute brainfart and I chunked it the morning the trash guys came… so now I’m here charging at 110.

I don’t see that volvo sells the 240 plug online so I believe my only option is to install a 1 purchase a new charging station to work with a 14-50 outlet. My question is if there is something in particular I should look for if I’m planning forwhatever charger I purchase to be future-proof at least for a little while, given we plan to add either a tesla or polestar in the future?

I have had quite a few electric vehicles over last 5 years and we currently have a Polestar 2 in addition to T8 XC90. You are way more future proof with a NEMA 14-50 than you are with a NEMA 6-20. Just keep your setup the same and buy a cheap NEMA 14-50 EVSE. You can buy a cheap used one or even one branded from another vehicle. I'm currently using Chevy Bolt EVSE with our T8.

If you want to buy something with a Volvo name on, you can buy the XC40 Recharge EVSE that comes with a NEMA 14-50 plug. You can buy a Polestar 2 one from Polestar store. It's the same thing. If you have money to burn you can buy the Volvo branded Chargepoint EVSE for NEMA 14-50 with app control and all. Buy ChargePoint Home Flex for Volvo | ChargePoint

In summary, you have the best outlet possible. Buy the cheapest NEMA 14-50 EVSE you can find and keep the OEM one in the car for trips.

 

[Diesel10]

I have had quite a few electric vehicles over last 5 years and we currently have a Polestar 2 in addition to T8 XC90. You are way more future proof with a NEMA 14-50 than you are with a NEMA 6-20. Just keep your setup the same and buy a cheap NEMA 14-50 EVSE. You can buy a cheap used one or even one branded from another vehicle. I'm currently using Chevy Bolt EVSE with our T8.

If you want to buy something with a Volvo name on, you can buy the XC40 Recharge EVSE that comes with a NEMA 14-50 plug. You can buy a Polestar 2 one from Polestar store. It's the same thing. If you have money to burn you can buy the Volvo branded Chargepoint EVSE for NEMA 14-50 with app control and all. Buy ChargePoint Home Flex for Volvo | ChargePoint

In summary, you have the best outlet possible. Buy the cheapest NEMA 14-50 EVSE you can find and keep the OEM one in the car for trips.

Thanks!

 

[Machupo]

In another thread, there was discussion of the 22.5 XC90 recharge having an onboard charger limited to 3.5kW, half the speed of Level 2 charging. And there hasn't been any indication of improvement for MY23.

Are you doing anything different or "overriding" this (if even possible) to get change from zero to empty in 4.5 hours? That's not bad and seems faster than reported change times of 10+ hours.

I just plugged my MY23 T8 into the wall for the first time. Chugging along at 213.4V and 16.4A, right at that 3.5KW max you were speaking of.

 

[capndavey]

I have had quite a few electric vehicles over last 5 years and we currently have a Polestar 2 in addition to T8 XC90. You are way more future proof with a NEMA 14-50 than you are with a NEMA 6-20. Just keep your setup the same and buy a cheap NEMA 14-50 EVSE. You can buy a cheap used one or even one branded from another vehicle. I'm currently using Chevy Bolt EVSE with our T8.

If you want to buy something with a Volvo name on, you can buy the XC40 Recharge EVSE that comes with a NEMA 14-50 plug. You can buy a Polestar 2 one from Polestar store. It's the same thing. If you have money to burn you can buy the Volvo branded Chargepoint EVSE for NEMA 14-50 with app control and all. Buy ChargePoint Home Flex for Volvo | ChargePoint

In summary, you have the best outlet possible. Buy the cheapest NEMA 14-50 EVSE you can find and keep the OEM one in the car for trips.

This is the way. You also get (got?) a tax credit for “installing” a device like that. Wouldn’t get it if you got another stock Volvo cable or installed an outlet for the Volvo cable to charge at high voltage. And, again, future proofing. We got a Chargepoint Home with 14-50 plug. Current setup is for 20A charging but we’re leasing this house. Can hardwire it for 50A or just get breakers shifted around for 40A to accommodate a full EV. Also, living in the Midwest where power outages happen occasionally getting bidirectional charging in the future would be awesome. It’s a shame that the ER T8’s are probably a dead end for updates since their batteries would power us through any outage we’ve had per my fuzzy math.

 

[Dondraper]

Hey what do you guys recommend to install for a 2023 T8? I currently use a regular wall outlet but want a faster charge. Also want to install something that I can use in the future when we go full EV. What is the best outlet to install? I'm a novice to all those charging stuff. I want the most future proof setup as possible. Thanks all!

 

[XC90T8ER]

Hey what do you guys recommend to install for a 2023 T8? I currently use a regular wall outlet but want a faster charge. Also want to install something that I can use in the future when we go full EV. What is the best outlet to install? I'm a novice to all those charging stuff. I want the most future proof setup as possible. Thanks all!

The best outlet to install to be future proof is NEMA 14-50. You will need to get an EVSE with that plug.

 

[XC90T8ER]

Thank you!

Also does anyone know if leaving the mobile charger plugged in all the time will use up a lot of energy over time? Do you guys unplug after charging? Or leave it plugged in?

Leaving the EVSE plugged in does not consume much energy. It's only a few watts to power LEDs and displays depending on the unit. If you left it plugged in for a year it would be only a few dollars. I have 4 plug-in vehicles and two NEMA 14-50 outlets in my garage. I leave EVSE plugged in all the time. Your biggest failure point is connectors wearing out on the plug from constantly plugging and unplugging. That is what will wear things out over time and that can become a safety risk. My advice is buy an EVSE with a 14-50 plug and leave it plugged in all the time and just connect your car as you need it. Not having to worry about the plug wearing out and causing a safety issue is much more important than a few dollars you would save constantly plugging and unplugging. Leave the mobile one that came with the car inside the vehicle if you ever need to plug in somewhere. I have adapters in all the cars where I am able to plug in my NEMA 6-20 EVSE into a NEMA 14-50 outlet if needed. I'm an electrical engineer and know what I'm doing so I'm hesitant to suggest something like this to you at this point.

 

[XC90T8ER]

Thank you! Do you really need a charging station for a 14-50? Can you use an adapter plug? Like this

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I have an adapter like that that I have made myself for any situation (NEMA 14-30, NEMA 10-30, NEMA 10-50, NEMA 6-20, NEMA 6-50, etc). Without endorsing the use of adapters, check something like this out instead - https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B08THCHCXW/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1

 

[SlipperyPete]

Hey what do you guys recommend to install for a 2023 T8? I currently use a regular wall outlet but want a faster charge. Also want to install something that I can use in the future when we go full EV. What is the best outlet to install? I'm a novice to all those charging stuff. I want the most future proof setup as possible. Thanks all!

According to Volvo - Max architecture of the T8's are 2phase @ 16amps 200-240V upto 6.4kw/h for 3hr best charge time.

I have MY2024 Polestar expected end of August. I am planning to run a dedicated 20amp 220V circuit to the garage. I get future proofing if you have plans for an all electric down the road, but I will deal with that if and when the time comes. For now, this setup is easy, cost effective, and enable car to charge within 5hrs (which will likely be faster, as I assume the number quoted below would be from 0-100%?). If I want to max out the charge to 2 phase and cut it down to 3hrs- the setup still works as draw is still maxed at 16 amps 200-240V.

What I am going to ask my electrician Thursday though, is whether two phase is how the outlet is wired? or if it implies level 2 charging? I noticed most EVSE note 1phase or 3phase - not 2 phase. I know BMW had 2 phase as well. Anyone know for sure? Or anyone able to get close to 6.4kw from 20amp 220V standard setup?

 

[Pioneer4x4]

According to Volvo - Max architecture of the T8's are 2phase @ 16amps 200-240V upto 6.4kw/h for 3hr best charge time.

I have MY2024 Polestar expected end of August. I am planning to run a dedicated 20amp 220V circuit to the garage. I get future proofing if you have plans for an all electric down the road, but I will deal with that if and when the time comes. For now, this setup is easy, cost effective, and enable car to charge within 5hrs (which will likely be faster, as I assume the number quoted below would be from 0-100%?). If I want to max out the charge to 2 phase and cut it down to 3hrs- the setup still works as draw is still maxed at 16 amps 200-240V.

What I am going to ask my electrician Thursday though, is whether two phase is how the outlet is wired? or if it implies level 2 charging? I noticed most EVSE note 1phase or 3phase - not 2 phase. I know BMW had 2 phase as well. Anyone know for sure? Or anyone able to get close to 6.4kw from 20amp 220V standard setup?





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I think the Two-Phase part is for what they use in the UK on their 220v mains. I've read into it, and posted before, but I really don't know for sure.