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#1 ·
I just bought a 2015.5 V60 CC. I like to surf. As far as I can tell, it's impossible to operate the car without having the electric key with me. If I leave the electronic key in the car, the mechanical valet key only locks the driver side door. There are mechanical lock overrides INSIDE each of the other three doors, but crucially none on the trunk. The car can't be started or locked with just the valet key. If you open the door and press lock it won't lock. I tried taking the battery out of the electric key so I can leave it in the car (car still starts with electronic key lacking a battery), but then there's no way to lock up. The door lock buttons on the outside don't work if the electronic key isn't detected.

Has anyone figured out how to do this?
 
#2 ·
I just bought a 2015.5 V60 CC. I like to surf. As far as I can tell, it's impossible to operate the car without having the electric key with me. If I leave the electronic key in the car, the mechanical valet key only locks the driver side door. There are mechanical lock overrides INSIDE each of the other three doors, but crucially none on the trunk. The car can't be started or locked with just the valet key. If you open the door and press lock it won't lock. I tried taking the battery out of the electric key so I can leave it in the car (car still starts with electronic key lacking a battery), but then there's no way to lock up. The door lock buttons on the outside don't work if the electronic key isn't detected.

Has anyone figured out how to do this?
Use volvo on call app that will lock the car even if the keys are inside the car.
 
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#5 ·
I just want like a steel key that doesn't have a computer in it that locks and unlocks the doors like cars have had since forever and was working just fine
This is seriously just a guess because I've never tried to do what you are attempting, but maybe you could put your keyfob inside something like this inside the car to block the signal so you can push the lock button on the inside of the door to lock all the doors when leaving.
 
#6 ·
The Faraday cage is a fun idea but doesn’t work. Same as removing the electric key battery. You can’t lock the car without the electric key if it’s unlocked. The valet key only locks the driver side door, and if you press the electric lock button inside the door it clicks locked, then immediately clicks back to unlocked because the door is open. The door handle lock buttons don’t work if the car doesn’t detect the electric key. One could maybe roll down the window, shut the door, reach in and lock it, then hit the window up switch and pull your hand out real quick. Assuming the windows can be made to automatically roll all the way up with a single flip of the switch like on some but not all cars
 
#8 ·
The Faraday cage is a fun idea but doesn't work. Same as removing the electric key battery. You can't lock the car without the electric key if it's unlocked. The valet key only locks the driver side door, and if you press the electric lock button inside the door it clicks locked, then immediately clicks back to unlocked because the door is open. The door handle lock buttons don't work if the car doesn't detect the electric key. One could maybe roll down the window, shut the door, reach in and lock it, then hit the window up switch and pull your hand out real quick. Assuming the windows can be made to automatically roll all the way up with a single flip of the switch like on some but not all cars
I looked at the manual and you are right. For cars equipped with keyless drive, all doors must be closed before the vehicle can be locked. But why won't the Faraday cage work to let you lock the car with all the doors closed by pushing the outside door handle? If you walk away from the car with the fob, put the fob down, walk back to the car without the fob, and then push the button on the door, won't it lock? If so, shouldn't the Faraday cage work when trying to lock the doors via the outside handle?

Please note, I do NOT have keyless drive, so I am truly asking this as a question because I don't know. If my assumptions are incorrect about being able to lock the door from the outside when the fob is not in range, then I apologise. I assume the car is only smart enough to tell when the fob is in range and not whether its is completely inside the car or not when it comes to pushing the outside handle to lock the car.
 
#9 ·
I don't surf, so I really don't know. Don't they make small waterproof bags for surfers where you could put the key in and then put it under your wetsuit? Sorry if it's a silly question.
 
#10 ·
LOL, it was my first thought too. Well, actually, my first thought was, "Isn't this what the 'sport' key is for?" Then the waterproof bag idea. Then, just a ziplock bag and discreetly sit down and bury the key in the sand near a landmark you can find again, maybe a piece of driftwood. Then, it was one of those magnet things that attach under the car. Then, this is really a "first world" problem. And, finally, the sport key really should be the answer. YMMV.
 
#14 ·
I’m a little surprised that the tech of the sport key isn’t retroactive to 2016. Those manufacturers need to listen to their customers better. 😝

Looks like Liechtenstein to me. Not a bad place to hail from. Certainly better than Chicago, LOL. Although, probably not much surfing going on there. 🏄🏻‍♂️
 
#16 ·
You're right I do live in Liechtenstein and recently bought a V60 D4 16'. And I don't know anything about faraday boxes, but I can remember we had a customer once bring his Land Cruiser and none of the smart keys were working for the car. We couldn't find anything wrong until we took out a mysterious box that was on the back seat and wuolah, all the keys started working again. Must have been some kind a jammer I guess
 
#18 ·
An Altoid tin does the same job for one key fob as that Faraday cage.. twenty bucks cheaper with a free tin full of mints ;)
 
#23 ·
Reading through this thread, I was also going to suggest this.

I used a HitchSafe on my last car, and it worked well. I haven't used it on my wagon because my hitch isn't installed, but reading through the Amazon questions/reviews, people are commenting that it acts as a faraday cage and blocks the key's signal. I'll have to test it by putting the key in the HitchSafe and seeing if it truly blocks the signal to the car.

I think it's definitely a stronger option than a lock box attached to the car.

 
#21 ·
First off, due to the fact that I can fold not only the right rear passenger seat but the front passenger seat down, our volvo's are fantastic for transporting surfboards. I can fit a 9'6 longboard and another board on top, with a buddy in the left rear passenger seat and don't need surf racks.

The key fob is an issue. I have used both of these without any leaks for the past few years:

First this under my wetsuit along my back:

And more recently this outside of my wetsuit around my calf:

When I have forgotten these waterproof cases, at least with my 2012 S60, I lock my car with the fob, then unlock the trunk with my fob which leaves the car itself locked and the side mirrors folded (signifying that the car is locked) and then 'hide' my key under a towel or something... and then close the trunk. There is a risk that someone will see me do that, open my trunk, find the key and take my car, but if no one spots this maneuver, the car looks (and is) locked aside from the trunk which is closed.

Hope that helps
 
#22 ·
2019 V90CC T5

Missed this thread earlier, but here's our experience with the so-called "sports key": for starters the sales people did NOT explain what this peculiar-looking fob-like device was that came in new-owner's kit. We just tossed into one of the front console compartments and basically forgot about it...UNTIL one day I drove off unwittingly without regular remote key fob, and after reaching my destination, groped around in my pockets looking for the remote to lock up - and NO key! So how did I start and drive the car without key fob? After returning home and a bit of Googling and searching around the various compartments for "lost" key, we worked out that it was down to the long-forgotten sports key, which theoretically would allow anybody to step inside an unlocked vehicle and drive it away. Needless to say, sports key is now sequestered in our home-office desk, never to be removed again!
 
#24 ·
I'm shocked that no one has mentioned a solution using the metal key that slides out of the fob for the times when your battery dies. Of course, using it would have the disadvantage of setting off the alarm, but whatever.

1) Lock the usual way.
2) Remove what the manual calls "detachable key blade."
3) Toss fob into Altoids tin, Faraday cage, whatever will block the signal.
4) Open car using instructions for "detachable key blade."
5) Toss fob into car.
6) Lock car using key blade.
 
#28 ·
Thx Chopper. I also surf and have a 2017 Volvo v90 with a trailer hitch. This absolutely works and is the only viable solution I’ve used other than a cargo box on top of my car that i lock with an old school key. When using my cargo box, the Volvo fob has to be in a particular location far enough away from all car door handles. The trailer hitch is way better if you have one.