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SPA engine coolant drain/fill

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#1 ·
there is no volvo-recommended interval for this. I did mine at 8 years / 100k and the old coolant looked fine. I probably won't touch it again until 200k and I expect on a lot of cars the coolant will get changed often enough from damage to hoses or whatever necessitating refilling

the job in VIDA is called "261 : Cooling system - draining, charging and bleeding"

needed materials
  • a socket to turn the flat petcock drain. I used a six point 19mm (or 3/4") socket with a low profile high tooth count wrench. you can buy a "flat petcock socket" on amazon and I'd probably get one if I was doing it again
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      something like this
  • a vacuum bleed tool and an air compressor to run it. this is the VIDA guide's method. others have said that you may get it bled by disconnecting and filling at the upper rad hose
    • I used the "Mishimoto MMTL-CPT-28 28-Piece Cooling System Pressure Tester and Vacuum Refill Kit" about $100 on amazon. cap #15 fits. this can pressure test your coolant system too which is probably a good idea to do regularly given how many reports I've seen of SPA cars overheating with little warning
  • a drain hose, I guess. VIDA shows two styles of petcock with different size hose. I didn't use this because I couldn't get my hands down there, I just let it drain on the rad support and caught the drips with a big pan and hosed it off after
  • drain pan
  • volvo coolant, diluted with distilled water, about 1 gal total. my xc90 2016's capacity was a little less than 1 gallon (diluted) using a plain drain+fill method. I bought a gallon of "Volvo Coolant/Antifreeze - Genuine Volvo 32339856" at FCP euro and diluted with distilled water 50/50
steps
  1. pressure test using the rad cap and hand pump, if you have the kit. this only takes a minute and will verify you can later hold vacuum to refill. fix leaks if you find them
  2. attach a drain hose if you can (I couldn't) and open the radiator drain. take care as this is a plastic part you're turning. this is on the right side (passenger side in the US) of the radiator, at the bottom. access is very tight and you'll probably need to try a few sockets and wrenches to find a combo that works (mine was an armstrong 3/8 ratchet and a regular length 6-point 19mm 3/8-drive chrome socket. the points of the 6-point socket fit the flat on the drain, it chews it up a little but it works). get the petcock socket if you can (please reply to this thread if you got one and it worked). I held the socket so I could get the backlash on my 90 tooth ratchet to work and was still only able to turn it a few teeth at a time. it needs to turn 180 degrees CCW to open fully
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      here's the volvo special tool "999 7669" which I assume is a flat petcock socket of some kind. two variant hose sizes are in VIDA, 10mm ID and another unspecified size
  3. drain into a pan (this took 10 minutes for me, I don't think it was fully open), then close the petcock
  4. fill using the vacuum bleed tool. the mishimoto comes without instructions, here's a pdf from a different manufacturer: https://www.eliseparts.com/uploads/products/radiator-vacuum-purge-and-refill-kit-ct3570.pdf
    1. hook up with the correct rad cap (it goes on the flex hose). in this pic the rad hose is the dark blue line on the right, coolant comes in the clear hose on the bottom, and shop air (light blue hose) goes in the top of the vacuum pump on the left where the light blue pump on/off slide button is. the smaller clear hose is just an exhaust for the shop air used to run the vacuum pump
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    3. I used 100 psi from a small pancake compressor and it was enough to pull 21 in-Hg
    4. pull vacuum by opening the system to the vacuum pump and running it (press the slide button). pull it to 20-25 inches of mercury (yellow range on the gauge). you should see the upper rad hose partially collapse
    5. lock out the system and verify that vacuum is held without leaks
    6. drop the large clear hose into a container with diluted coolant
    7. open the path for the coolant to go in, but only let it run until coolant runs up to the gauge block. the coolant hose itself was not vacuumed before this step so this lets you preload it and then redo your vacuum. without doing this you'd have a weaker total vacuum and fill less
    8. pull vacuum again to 20-25 inches of mercury (yellow range on the gauge)
    9. open the coolant path again and wait till the system fills, keeping the hose end underwater
    10. verify that about a gallon was taken in and you hit near the "max" line in the overflow tank. for me this got a bit above the "max" line and I'll need to siphon a little out once I run it a little to see where it ends up
 
#3 ·
Nice write up and thanks for posting images. I ordered myself a gallon of Volvo concentrate and will attempt this sometime soon.

Even though the coolant may look and smell fine, my understanding of it is that over time the coolant additives and chemical composition may lose its ability to protect against dissimilar metals forming deposits/electrolysis?

I would imagine it’s fairly complex and each engine would be differently impacted by this process, but what the heck - it’s a cheap fluid to diy.

I don’t yet have a vacuum filler. I should probably invest in one but I wonder if it’s truly necessary or just a nice-to-have.
 
#4 ·
I purchased the Harbor Freight/Maddox vacuum kit and while it has a 40 mm that appears to block off the vent hole
, it never makes a vacuum. Don't think the kit I have is working right and the Mishimoto kit is arriving tomorrow in time for "day four of the coolant pipe replacement."


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#5 ·
Few more tips while I'm waiting for coolant to drain out -

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Loosen the brace held with a 10 mm bolt and push it down to give yourself more space with the radiator drain.

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I was able to get it rotated it a bit with a small set of pliers. Rotated 180 degrees counter-clockwise to loosen it.

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Then I remembered that many years ago, my wife bought me this. It took a while to find it in the 'miscellaneous tool and cable drawer,' but it made quick work of the plastic petcock.
 
#8 ·
The universal one is a bit too small so it doesn't quite seal up. Plus the vent opening in the cap area doesn't get sealed up.

I don't think it's sealed up even with the regular 40 mm cap since I have this going on when I try to make a vacuum - sounds like it's pulling air somewhere in the reservoir

 
#11 ·
That planned two day job of replacing the coolant pipe took nearly a week thanks to not having the right tools. The Mishimoto kit finally arrived so then I popped on cap #15 and did a pressure test - no drop in pressure, no sounds of air leaking. "Pressure test cooling system" documentation says 1.5 bar for 5 minutes but I did a bit less pressure and several times since I'm not sure what this kit is rated to handle.

A warning for anyone else attempting a vacuum coolant fill - get a kit that has a compatible cap. The Harbor Freight "Maddox Cooling System Test & Refill Kit MH-1B" does not have a compatible cap. A 22 piece rental pressure tester from Advanced Auto Parts also does not have a compatible cap. Save yourself a lot of time and get a kit that does work such as this Mishimoto one.

If anyone can confirm a different kit that is compatible, please share to help others with options in the future. There are lots of identical looking kits to the Mishimoto one for about the same price so there should be plenty to list.

I also tried a 1/4 inch drive plastic petcock socket from Amazon (Thexton THE485) and it was not suited for this job. It did not connect at all with my wrench and it's sitting at the bottom in the front bumper somewhere.
 
#13 ·
Really good info here in this thread if anyone is looking to do this job themselves. I have a couple of additions that might be helpful for others - mostly I followed the great walkthrough put together by the OP @z0r

1- I decided after looking, to do this from below. Especially if you have the car up on ramps for an oil change anyway, it's really easy to remove the narrow black panel in front of the belly pan, which you will find is caked with road debris, dirty dump bees and probably blocking the drain holes Volvo put along the panel anyways.

After removing this panel, you have a nice little arm-sized access hole there directly to the draincock. I used a couple feet of vacuum hose I had laying around to perfectly route the coolant into a bucket.

As z0r mentions, the draincock has to rotate 180 degrees - nothing happens at 90, but mine felt like it was bottoming out at 90. I had to re-read the thread to confirm that 180 was right.

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2- The mishimoto kit has a handheld pump that you can use to pressurize the coolant reservoir on draining. This greatly speeds up the drain process and helps to ensure you get more out of the system.

Because this was available, I took some distilled water and put about 1.5L of coolant (half a gallon) and flushed out the hoses a bit after doing the initial drain.

If you wanted to be super thorough, you could refill with water, run the car and then do a second drain, but based on the cleanliness I was observing I didn't bother.

3- Special radiator drain plug tool - I just took a piece of 2x4, set my skilsaw to about 1/2" depth and ran a slot in my little square of 2x4. This gave me a hand-held tool that was soft enough to avoid marring up the drainplug. after I got a quarter turn done, I was able to get a small adjustable wrench on it to finish loosening it past 90 degrees.
Closing the drainplug was much easier.



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5- After drain, rinse and refill, she looks beautiful, blue-raspberry jolly rancher flavor:
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#15 ·
Wow the Mishimoto kit worked great to refill the coolant system on my 4 cylinder 2017 xc60. So easy and no air in the system. Wish I would’ve had one of these years ago when refilling cooling systems. And number 15 adapter In the kit worked great.
 
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#18 · (Edited)
volvo coolant, diluted with distilled water, about 1 gal total. my xc90 2016's capacity was a little less than 1 gallon (diluted) using a plain drain+fill method. I bought a gallon of "Volvo Coolant/Antifreeze - Genuine Volvo 32339856" at FCP euro and diluted with distilled water 50/50
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So, is the entire cooling system capacity or volume 2 gallons?
2 US liquid gallons = ~7,6 litres?
 
#21 ·
Im just interested if you can do this by just simply filling the coolant tank and letting the air out by circulating it or do you need to vacuum fill it?
No vacuuming is needed!
I did the same thing myself by flushing the old coolant out with water.
So drain the old coolant and replace it with tap water.
Drive the car until it warms up for an hour or two, then drain the coolant and replace it with tap water. Repeat this 3-5 times to get everything out of system! 👍👍
 
#24 ·
Hi everyone Got 2019 xc60 d4 in Australia I have changed the coolant on my car with unique approach. I didn't had vacuum kit. I started with draining old coolant out and at the same time filled the coolant tank with demineralised water ( didn't let the tank run empty so it didn't took any air in ) After all the coolant ran out, demineralised water started to come out and then i started pouring new coolant without letting the tank go empty, and when the new coolant started draining i closed the drain plug. So far no problems running the car, let me know if I did anything wrong. Thanks
 
#25 ·
Maybe I'm being a rule follower, but I would really recommend the vacuum pump approach for these cars - I think that approach could work but it also could still introduce air into the system if it's not done perfectly - and running between the bottom of the car and top of car is a chore. The vacuum pumps are cheaper and cheaper now on Amazon. I would probably go that route unless I was like stranded on the side of the road.
 
#26 ·
Im in a never ending struggle with this air lock. 2013 xc90 3.2
Replaced radiator, thermo, all hoses and water pump. Have done 2 coolant flushes. and both times Im having air pocket issues. I thought it was a head gasket at first, but according to a mech he said it was fine. I tried with the vacuum but must have done it wrong, i guess. If I go for a drive, my coolant light comes on. then goes off after a 1/2 mile then comes back on after then off. If I shut the car off the coolant comes rushing back in, then gone again after a drive, then light on.
 
#28 ·
for the mishimoto kit I bought yeah the vacuum pump it comes with is powered by compressed air. with the right fittings you could hook up a different vacuum pump like a small electric one used for hvac work, the cheap ones like harbor freight sells start at about $100

as far as finding the leak, every time I've needed to find one all I needed to do was pressurize the system with the hand pump in the kit and I found the leak within seconds by listening for it