free SUM recalibrations all day long.

 

Chinese clone

ETM sweep procedure works just fine.

2010A works with Windows XP Pro SP3 and Vista

2010D works with Windows XP Pro SP3 and Windows 7 Pro. (does NOT work with 64 bit windows, except, supposedly, in 32 bit compatibility XP mode)

I have VIDA 2010D as well running on XP Pro SP3.

Haven't yet figured out how to change seat temperature settings, for instance, or other settings that can be changed at the dealer. Confirm that dealer says SUM is done locally.

To do the software downloads, I suspect you need the very latest version of VIDA, and 2011A ought to be out around very soon, if not already out. No idea if the clone DiCE units are detected or not.

Best way to use it is to simply try to go to different sections of the program. It has the parts manual and service/repair manual for cars since the late 1980's, but VIDA/DiCE combo only works with 1999 or later cars, with ME7.x ECU. You can use VIDA to look up parts and repair instructions for earlier cars, but cannot directly connect to them for diagnosis.

VCT 2000 was the prior device, but even it was only 1999 or later.

VST (Volvo Service Tool) was used for earlier cars, but you connected it to the car, read the car, and then went into VADIS or later into VIDA and listed what codes you fond for that car to trouble shoot the car.

 

they could detect but cannot do anything about the clones other than void the warranty for them. Some indys have been buying them on eBay because they are indistinguishable from the rip offs at SPX. Since they are actually using Teleca boards sold on the grey market they function identical to the ones fools pay $1100 for. Volvo even put a service manager bulletin out trying to distinguish the differences but the bulletin is a joke and the differences they listed were in some cases flat out lies.

Volvo's problem is they licensed SETEK to make these who then turned around and had Teleca build them in China, where IP laws are in blatant disregard. These "clones" are using parts taken directly from the factory. The only thing that is "cloned" is the firmware....which knowing the chinese, soon they will have someone on the inside start flashing the boards with unique serials.

Indys and even some dealers shouldn't have to suffer Volvo's poor choices in OEMs.

 

I've owned both a Chinese clone DiCE (which worked for less than a week) and I now own an authentic Volvo DiCE. I can guarantee you, the clones are not using factory produced parts. I've opened up both units to compare them and the difference in the quality of the parts is obvious. The quality of the cabling and connectors on the authentic one is far better and the manufacturing of the clone PCB board is very sloppy. Many components are also missing on the Clone board in order to squeeze every penny of profit out of it. For example, that's why the bluetooth module and SD card slot are missing. The Volvo/SETEK units are also manufactured in Sweden, not China, according to the declaration on the box. If I get a chance I'll post the photos of the two circuit boards so that you can see for yourself the difference.

When the clones work they do seem to be just as functional as the authentic one, they're just not built as well. I suspect Volvo will eventually blacklist the clone serial number since they all seem to use the same number (206751). This would probably only affect software downloads since you have to communicate with the Volvo server to get the file and your DiCE serial number is likely transmitted at that time. Even that can be worked around with some clever hacks to Vida though

 

doubtful. too many indy shops picked them up on ebay and think they are legit. also, there is no liability on volvo since they weren't purchased from them or SPX. there is also no warranty on them since it exists 2 years from the firmware date and has expired. VIDA does not require any DICE unit to be registered with the computer when you download software from them so there is no checking.

SETEK may take final assembly to say they are made in Sweden but the boards are most definitely subbed out to Teleca which fabs them in China.

 

The only components missing on my board are the SD card socket, and the bluetooth module. The bluetooth module is proprietary to Volvo, which I assume means that it responds to unique commands that other bluetooth units wouldn't recognize. The connector for the bluetooth is on the board, and there are other modules that would plug in, but the question is whether or not the lines to the connector are the same as the Volvo unit. If not, maybe you'd blow the board out, at the least, the module would be a waste of money. I tried to find out information, and learned enough to know the clones will not get this particular function, unless the manufacturer is in China and they can get access there, or they reverse engineer the module. Not enough money to do that, I suspect.

The place I bought my unit gives a 1 year warranty, and they were actually ready for me to return a unit, until I discovered what was wrong with it and fixed it. Most if VIDA is written in JAVA, so it is plain text, for the vast majority, so if you found the right file, you could probably rewrite it slightly to give a different number. The unit I opened is not a Teleca board, at least there is no logo silk screened onto it, and no name anyplace I could find. Wonder why?

 

The bluetooth module is proprietary to Volvo,

OMG -facepalm-

please get your facts straight before posting stuff like this. This is so far from the truth.

Beg to differ on "standard Euzurio".

please stop. you are wrong end of story. rkam knows more about DICE probably that anyone else here.

 

Vadis can connect directly to older Volvos through Volvo System Tester with serial adapter box. Vida cannot.

Later DiCE clones have lower quality circuit board, plastic casing and cables.
Earlier clones seems to come from the same production line as the genuine ones; Lead free marking, aligning grooves in the box, more rubber-like end caps, generally better materials.

Internal bluetooth module is standard Ezurio. PC side can be whatever you like.

Complete CPU internal flash can be read and written via serial debug connection, but require an ID code that seems to be different in different units.
Units with same serial can still have different ID.

 

I'm glad we got ours when we did. It sounds like some real crap came out afterwards. I don't consider ours clones because they have genuine Teleca boards and proper pin headers.

 

Beg to differ on "standard Euzurio", contacted people who sold the units to Volvo, and they contacted Euzurio, who pointed out these were proprietary units, not the standard Euzurio unitis, and I assume that means slightly different command set. Means, you can't put any unit it and expect it to work. I did think of plugging a USB/bluetooth adapter in and trying that, but why bother, even Volvo admits bluetooth is about 10X slower. Went to dealer and watched a DiCE load info on a car, and it took sooooo long compared to my USB connection.

 

There is a document on the Vida DVD "Manual Bluetooth Configuration of DiCE.pdf" on how to use standard Bluetooth on the PC side.
With standard on one side, I can't see how the other end could be non-standard.
It's basically a pair of virtual COM ports.
Internal module can be purchased on digi-key. Firmware can be updated with BTUpdate program on Vida DVD if wanted.

I agree that it is better to use USB.

http://www.iec.dk/UserFiles/Ezurio-BIWM-II-00482.pdf

 

Problem was, the Euzurio module in the DiCE was different. Once activated, it could communicate with standard Bluetooth modules from other manufacturers, as is the Bluethoth standard. What I was discussing was that Volvo apparently had some proprietary commends sent to the internal Euzurio Bluetooth module that other brands wouldn't recognize. That is conjecture, but why else would Volvo buy a proprietary unit, and not allow it to be sold to anyone else. It is the DiCE end that is the problem, not the PC end of the connection.

 

Seems to be working fine with firmware 7.18.0 build 2862.
http://www.lairdtech.com/WorkArea/linkit.aspx?LinkIdentifier=id&ItemID=3436