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Poll: I think the S40/V50 suspension is...

3.3K views 12 replies 10 participants last post by  Chaz  
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As I wait for delivery of my S40 T5 in January, I continue to be surprised at the frequency of comment, both in fora such as this and in mainstream media, about the suspension in the S40/V50. Is it too stiff? Could it be stiffer still? Is it just right? My impression is that the consensus, or at least the prevailing concern, is that the suspension is too stiff for everyday driving comfort. I'm curious whether (assuming the balance of opinion does tip that way) this is more of a relative measure, i.e. it's stiffer than we would have expected of a Volvo but not, say, for a BMW; or if it approaches an absolute, i.e. even mainstream sport sedans deserve a more compliant everyday ride. Or, on the other side of the coin, is it fine the way it is? Comments I've read don't always distinguish whether they're aimed at the dynamic sport suspension or the stock one; I'm actually interested in opinions on both. You needn't own the car to respond, but please at least have some seat-of-the-pants test-drive impressions to share. (Note: I'm aware that wheel size and tire choice is a factor in this type of discussion overall, but am hoping we can try to focus mainly on the suspension bits themselves to keep this fairly simple.)

As for me, I ordered my car with the dynamic suspension. I drove both types several times and discerned a difference in cornering behavior, of course, but no significant difference in overall ride comfort, noise, and so on. I didn't deliberately seek out the worst roads I could find, but I did make sure to drive a reasonable cross-section of freeway, side roads, banged-up bus lanes, and so on.
 
#2 ·
Re: Poll: I think the S40/V50 suspension is... (mullmann)

I chose the dynamic chasis option and I didn't do a lot of comparison between the different suspension choices offered for the S40.

In comparison to the "sport" suspension offered by other manufacturers, I'd say the dynamic suspension could stand to be just a little more firm.

But just as signficantly, I think that tire choice plays a role. I wish that there was just a little more (or better) rubber on the wheels.
 
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Re: Poll: I think the S40/V50 suspension is... (crawford)

I voted that the dynamic suspension isn't quite stiff enough. I test drove a V50 T5 AWD with the dynamic suspension. While the ride was pretty tight, it could have used less body roll, and squat under acceleration.
I tend to prefer stiff rides, I don't like feeling like I am in a boat. Part of my reason for the boat, was the limited feedback that the car was giving aswell. I felt too isolated from what was really going on to be able to feel how close to the cars limits I was.
I like a stiff ride, but I don't want a stiff ride if it is going to make the interior squeak and crack like my VW.
 
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Re: Poll: I think the S40/V50 suspension is... (mullmann)

I ordered the sport suspension as well and would like to use the lowering springs. Does the lower springs add to stiffness. I mean if the suspension is already stiff... would the springs make it even stiffer? How about he Heico springs?
 
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Re: Poll: I think the S40/V50 suspension is... (volvoNB)

My car comes with regular suspension, after I installed the lower springs (Volvo's sport lower springs) the car's performed much better. Less body roll, more stable @ all speed, steering quicker and more precised, firmer but not bouncy (correct me if I spell it wrong
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I think the stock suspension is a lot improved compare to the previous model (I used to have 2001 S40), also much less chassis flex, 2 thumbs up on this one.
I believe with the dynamic suspension option plus their lower spring, those combination will make S40 one of the best handling cars around.
 
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Re: Poll: I think the S40/V50 suspension is... (mullmann)

I've driven the S40 T5 w/ sport package and the ride was great, enough feedback in the steering, and the suspension did i fine job w/ commuinicating what was going on below. As far as it being stiff, I dont mind it at all, part of whats makes the car feel sporty, and sport is my middle name.
 
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I think the ride quality of the dynamic suspension with 17 inch wheels is stiff enouugh that you would be sliding into issues with people feeling it rides like a modded car if you made it much stiffer. Its firm. I like firm and controlled but this isn't s sports car so I think its getting close to the limit (but not over) for this type of car.

The issue is that you CAN have less body roll and shaper cornering without the supension geting stiffer. Thicker roll bars might be a start. A slightly lower ride hic=ght. There are many combinations that work. My Subaru IMO was a better handeling car AND more compliant over bumps. Shock travel and good cornering are not mutually exclusive.

So I don't think the suspension needs to be FIRMER just that the sport suspension should exhinit a greater degree of roll control a dn sharper CORNERINg over the base suspension.
 
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Re: (Toolatecrew)

Quote, originally posted by Toolatecrew »
So I don't think the suspension needs to be FIRMER just that the sport suspension should exhinit a greater degree of roll control a dn sharper CORNERINg over the base suspension.

Great comments. I should have been more selective in my original word choice, or offered a few other choices, but it's too late now. Can't change the poll in-progress; this is science, after all!
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Re: (GoncaloP)

Now I relize I have a V50 station wagon but here is how I feel about the dynamic suspension. I would call it competent. The car doesn't do anything unexpected. It goes where you point it. BUT it doesn't inspire you to push. I took the time (sans wife and kid) to push it a little on some back roads and was surprised to find there was much more grip available than I thought. I felt you could feel that subtle rear wheel sterring effect and although the car leaned more than I'm used to it simply stuck and kept going around the corner. It feels like it says . OK if thats what you want me to do I'll do it and I'll try to be as unobtursive about it as possible. The skidpad or slalom numbers may actually be quite good but it doesn't feel like it WANTS to do that. The main culprits I think are ride height and roll stiffness. Even my wife commented that a few corners were too fast. Well I used to take the corners at the same or higher speed in our Impreza but neever heard a word. The body roll made her feel like we were pushing father into the limits of the car then we actually were. the Subaru had a lower CG and more roll stiffness (but softer suspension).

I feel the Dynamic suspension should be the base suspension. Its SAFE. It would enable you to steer around things to avoid accidents. Its in keeping with Volvo's "saftey" aurau. safe competent.

the Sport suspension doesn't even need to have much higher limits. Just a feel that encourages you to test them a bit more. I personally wouldn't care if the skidpad numbers were the same. Lower ride height, more roll stiffness and less understeer would make me happy. The brakes on this car are already outsatnding in my mind. A bit of twaeking in the cornering and its feel would be very sporty .
 
#13 ·
Re: Poll: I think the S40/V50 suspension is... (mullmann)

Just what is the difference with the Dynamic Suspension? I have looked at Volvo web page and in the brochure, and do not see an explanation as to just what is altered from standard suspension, which is pretty tight as it is. I am getting ready to order V50.