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New XC60 back doors: Swedish design or a big pratfall?

8.3K views 35 replies 21 participants last post by  VertigoXC60  
#1 ·
Volvo made a risky bet with the new design of back doors in the new XC60: Now they look nicer, but... look at the picture:
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The interior of the back doors is plenty of dirt and needs specific cleaning: a regular wash does not remove dirt, as it is located in the inner part. (This picture corresponds to no more than 10 accumulated days of rain!).

You must either carry your private cleaning stuff, and use it when you wash the car, o risk staining rear seat passenger clothes with dust and oil from the road.

Can you imagine the CEO of a Company that has bought a "Premium car" bringing his/her sponge and blue coverall every time the car needs washing? Amazing.
 
#2 ·
Can you imagine the CEO of a Company that has bought a "Premium car" bringing his/her sponge and blue coverall every time the car needs washing? Amazing.
No, I cannot imagine since the CEO of a company surely has people cleaning up his car for him....
 
#3 ·
Well, you may take the joke and ignore the substance of the issue, but I was on the verge of choosing Audi Q5 instead of Volvo XC60 (close tie between these cars), and if I had seen reports like this one I could have not made the mistake.

Anyhow, as I don't have employees to clean my car, I'm buying a wiper and preparing myself to enjoy such a "premium" car every washing :angryfire:.
 
#8 ·
Well, you may take the joke and ignore the substance of the issue, but I was on the verge of choosing Audi Q5 instead of Volvo XC60 (close tie between these cars), and if I had seen reports like this one I could have not made the mistake.
Seriously lmao :facepalm:
 
#5 ·
Your picture is a photo of the door itself. How does the door jam look on the vehicle body?

Normally when one gets into an automobile they don't rub against the door but may rub against the body next to the seat. If that area stays relatively clean then I would say that you have little to worry about.
 
#6 ·
Your picture is a photo of the door itself. How does the door jam look on the vehicle body?

Normally when one gets into an automobile they don't rub against the door but may rub against the body next to the seat. If that area stays relatively clean then I would say that you have little to worry about.
True, in the photo you can see that the dirt is in the door itself, not in the jam. Agree that in the jam would be even worse, but you can also get easily stained with the dirty door if, for instance, you leave the car in a narrow space with the door only slightly open.

Anyhow, even if you manage to keep clean, the door looks horrible! And nonetheless, washing the car is now a nightmare.
 
#7 ·
Here's a post from an Audi Q5 forum.

http://www.myaudiq5.com/index.php/topic/1900-dirt-in-the-rear-doors/

And another from a Q7 forum.

https://www.audiworld.com/forums/q7-mkii-discussion-211/dirty-door-bottom-2931986/

Granted the Q5 post deals with the previous generation Q5 (prior to 2018), but the Q7 is for the current version, so you might be having the same concern if you had chosen an Audi.

From my perspective, if the only complaint that I have once I take delivery of my XC60 is that I have to spend an additional 5 minutes wiping down the door jambs when I get my car washed then I will be ecstatic.
 
#9 ·
Here's a post from an Audi Q5 forum.
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From my perspective, if the only complaint that I have once I take delivery of my XC60 is that I have to spend an additional 5 minutes wiping down the door jambs when I get my car washed then I will be ecstatic.
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Could be a pain to keep clean but was this really a determining factor for you between the Q5 or XC60?
 
#14 ·
I went out and looked at mine and found a small amount of dried dirt. Got the car 2 weeks ago. That part of the door sticks out past the gasket into the wheel well. Design flaw, compromise, or design necessity I don't know. I do know that Volvo is one of the few to extend the door down past the jamb to keep the jamb clean. I also was impressed by the Q5 until I saw the Volvo. The Q5 doesn't even have remote start. I'll take the remote start over cleaner door edges any day.
 
#15 ·
Obviously people who are in love with XC60 (or Volvo in general) tend to forgive what they consider "minor sins" of their worship object. While I am not saying that the car is a total failure, to me this issue of the doors is one important piece of fact thas needs to be accounted for when you make your decission. It's only one more aspect among many, but while car virtues are widely exposed these negative points tend to be minimized. I just try to complete true information about the car from actual users.

The problem is important for me. Other customers or potential buyers may have their own opinion, of course.
 
#17 ·
Its a car, no cars are perfect. They get dirty, we clean them....lets move on.
 
#19 ·
Exactly. And on every modern SUV the back window gets dirty too! Whats up with that (snicker snicker).
 
#22 ·
I don’t see the big deal. My clothing rarely touches my door.

I have a bigger problem with the vehicles that have projecting trim below the door opening which my pants leg rubs against. I found this to be the case with the Alfa Romeo Stelvio. I couldn’t enter/exit the drivers side without my pants leg touching the bottom trim. It sticks out a mile. Over time, two things would eventually happen: it will get so dirty that it will dirty my pants leg or it would rub so often that it would wear away my pants fabric and maybe create a hole.
 
#23 ·
OK, I am no saying that this is a critical issue that makes it advisable to immediately dismiss the car. It is just a design flaw in an expensive car that intends to play in major leagues (with Audi, Mercedes, etc.). For a potential customer trying to decide between these makes, as there is a close tie in many other aspects, this kind of things may contribute to incline the scales against Volvo. Particularly if, as it is happening, they just ignore the problem.
 
#24 ·
We all have different criteria when reserching cars. I'm sure some would laugh at what I looked at when comparing the XC60 to the competition, but I doub't there is anyone else out there (besides you, mdmd) that would even notice or think to look in this area of the car. I'm sure if you looked at others "in this league" you would find plenty of issues too. Yeah we spend a lot on cars now but that doesn't mean they are perfect. Go look at forums for a Ford Explorer, MB GLC or a Chevy Transverse and see what those buyers are dealing with. The explorer has a nice carbon monoxide problem in the cabin. Perhaps a little perspective is in order.
 
#26 ·
A bit tiring this discussion at this point. Few last clarifications from my part:

- What I am reporting is an engineering flaw from Volvo in this car. Obviously.
- People are free to consider it more or less relevant. To me, being a car of this price, it is relevant. If it is not for other users, congratulations!
- I don't like to have to use a sponge and gloves when washing my car because Volvo engineers made a mistake.
- I never said that other cars are perfect, nor I meant that the XC60 is a piece of rubbish. I just report a problem.
- Everybody is free to love Volvo and forgive any imperfection the car may have. In my case, I'm just a simple customer, I love other things.

And finally, I don't think this issue deserves so many posts reminding me that using a sponge is not so difficult. I already knew.

Thanks a lot for your contributions, and thread closed on my part.
 
#27 ·
A bit tiring this discussion at this point. Few last clarifications from my part:

  • What I am reporting is an engineering flaw from Volvo in this car. Obviously.
  • People are free to consider it more or less relevant. To me, being a car of this price, it is relevant. If it is not for other users, congratulations!
  • I don't like to have to use a sponge and gloves when washing my car because Volvo engineers made a mistake.
  • I never said that other cars are perfect, nor I meant that the XC60 is a piece of rubbish. I just report a problem.
  • Everybody is free to love Volvo and forgive any imperfection the car may have. In my case, I'm just a simple customer, I love other things.

And finally, I don't think this issue deserves so many posts reminding me that using a sponge is not so difficult. I already knew.

Thanks a lot for your contributions, and thread closed on my part.
 
#28 ·
I have a brand new gleaming white xc60 inscription. I am very disappointed and basicallly agree this is a design fault to the point that I had to write this comment, never done before. I have had many quality cars, two previous model xc60’s and have never had to deal with this issue. You cannot simply use a sponge and wipe down as dirt gets ingrained into the rubber seal including road tar. So I have to also use road tar remover to remove all stains. Also it looks very bad each time I open the back doors, many people laugh at me when i give them lifts etc commenting on this design fault as the dirt really accumulates quickly and really sticks out on both the door and sill where the rubber sits...it’s not nice and very unexpected to find/ see.this in an expensive quality car . Washing the car takes so long now. I am sure in a few years this xc60 variant will start to rust here and become a common problem, but i won’t have to worry as I won’t have this car then. Come on Volvo, sort this out!!!
 
#32 ·
I bought the part and it was installed by the dealer however I still see dirt/sand inside the car. Perhaps it was not installed properly....the service advisor didn't even know about this issue until I told him about it.