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New Tires. Scorpion Verde or Michelin Premier LTX? Others?

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#1 ·
My oem 20 inch Pirelli Scorpion Verde all seasons are due for replacement.

? Stay with Scorpion Verde all season or switch to something else ?

Looks like a common substitute is the Michelin Premier LTX. Another Is the Scorpion Verde all season plus.

Anyone have experience with either on an XC 90 ( particularly in comparison to the Scorpion Verde all season?)

road noise?
Winter /snow?

Any other all season tires people have preferred over Pirelli?

Thanks
 
#2 ·
I switched to the Michelin Premier LTX about 2500 miles ago, I think they're quieter than the Pirellis were when new. I haven't faced snow with them yet, but I expect them to be as good as Michelins have been for me in the past, which is good (even my FWD S60).
 
#7 ·
I've been using the various iterations of Continental ExtremeContact (now the DWS 06) for about 12 years on Acura, Lexus, and now my XC90 (after only getting 23K miles from the OEMs). I live in Colorado, and love the all-weather handling of the Contis. The road noise is a little higher than the OEM tires, but the much better handling in the snow and rain more than makes up for the extra noise.
 
#8 ·
You can not go wrong with Michelin but Continentals are my favorite.

I highly recommend staying away from Pirrelli unless you have no options. They can be noisy and do not last very long.
 
#13 ·
I just replaced with the OEM Verde's after looking around at a few other options. I don't find them overly noisy. The current set lasted 45,000 miles, which is pretty good compared to other cars I've had. I think personal driving style plays more of a role in tire wear than the car, so for me that's a better gauge. They had good winter traction and did fine in the summer too, and the wife won't really let me store a dedicated set of snow rims/tires, so all-season is my only option.
 
#15 ·
What sizes are you guys looking at for the 20 inch wheels?

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#17 ·
I have about 10k miles so far on my Michelin LTX replacements. Very pleased.
 
#24 ·
Our local supplier of Nokian's just went belly up. So we shop around and pre order them. All our Volvos, 3 of them have dedicated, studded, Nokian WR3's and or similar. What an insane, safe, and stopping starting distance difference. We love them. Hard to find, I'd suggest NOW, cause they just aren't that popular . IMO people don't want to wait and will purchase what's on the shelf as compared with having to wait.

(Now you can take your Nokian eTires and shove em, crap IMO, unless your into green, in which case they are marginal in comparison to so many other tires, but if you want to go green in the summer, well ok.)

But ya!!! Best thing we ever did was pre order the H8 studded for our XC70. Best tire yet, and we have gone thru a pile of em over the years.

We found that getting the all season G3s' / WR's studded ,...difficult. So we switched to the winter only way of thinking. And yes every time Nokian changes their model numbers is a PIA. Yes it cost, but the difference is amazing. And the wagon is so much better in the summer with summer tires on it. The turning performance just is so much better in comparison over the all season way of doing things. And again, the Winter Nokians make a huge difference. And again you can take that report about studded and non-studded and shove it. For those days commuting on ice, we are literarily the only car stopping and moving on the road. Which makes ya think why would anyone else risk a rear ender cause everyone else is running all-seasons and can't stop?
 
#20 ·
Similar results as above after replacing Scorpions with Continentals. I was insisting on Michelins until dealer convinced me with positive testimonials that the Conti's are a better deal. He was right.
Had 25,000 miles on the Pirellis when replaced.
 
#21 ·
I am about to put new sneakers on my '13 XC60 and will likely go with DWS06. I've been extremely happy with them on my wife's M35 (Inifiniti) - a huge upgrade over the god-awful OEM Goodyears it came with. The XC60 was bought CPO with brand new tires on her which were Nexen Roadian HTX. I'd never heard of them before. Nothing exceptional, and let you know when you reached their limits, but never let me down, and I've put 63k miles on them! I want some more sidewall stiffness so will go to V-rated DWS06.
 
#23 ·
We switched from the OEM tires to the Goodyear Assurance CS TT tires 2 years ago and are wondering why we didn't do it sooner. Good luck finding them. The performance, handling, and braking are so much better now!!!

That said we after 30+ years of Volvos also have dedicated studded Nokian winter tires. The all season mentality is a bad compromise IMO. Of course the noise goes up, and in deference to the DOT research, we feel that the studded tires are an insane difference on commuter packed ice roads when it snows the 6 or so times each year. But one night with black ice, and the difference was amazing.

IMO, I don't like any suv sized Pirelli tire. They just don't last and performance wise they are so poor in comparison to the Goodyear's and Conts,.... etc. Why Volvo pushes them , I just don't understand.
 
#30 ·
I just picked up 20" RD take offs w/ the Verde's - have the 22 summer Verde stock. So far, been happy with them in the wet weather. Wasn't worth the $50 trade in to get Nokian's so going to use these as winters for now and throw some auto socks in the car.
 
#40 ·
XC90 Pirelli: 3options for 21" Scorpion Verde?

Does anyone know the difference between the three options for the Pirelli Scorpion Verde? What are people buying and what is your experience?
The ones labeled Vol are OEM Volvo stamped tires, the same ones that came on your vehicle. The only difference is the word Volvo on the tire.

On Pirelli's, if you step up to the 285 vs 275, there may be a Run-Flat tire available, 285/45/20 for me.
275/45R20 = 29.7x10.8R20 vs 285/45R20 = 30.1x11.2R20

21" is even closer in OD
275/40R21 = 29.7x10.8R21 vs 285/40R21 = 30X11.2R21

Running the Premiers by Michelin currently. I'm getting 1/32nd wear per 10k miles, so they are wearing fairly good. Better than the Pirelli's.

I was told by the dealer to avoid the PNCS (PIRELLI NOISE CANCELLING SYSTEM) they use a foam attached to the inside of the tire. The biggest problem is when they have to do a flat repair and remove the foam and put in a patch. I guess there's not a great way around it and the foam falls apart inside the tire?
Simply cut the foam back some where required, patch the tire, then glue the foam back in place. Not that hard if well informed.
 
#39 ·
I've seen this few days ago
All I noticed was the second line after the size.
Where it say Volvo and other says PNCS or something.
Don't know if it's something real or just marketing thing.
Try the comparison feature

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I was told by the dealer to avoid the PNCS (PIRELLI NOISE CANCELLING SYSTEM) they use a foam attached to the inside of the tire. The biggest problem is when they have to do a flat repair and remove the foam and put in a patch. I guess there's not a great way around it and the foam falls apart inside the tire?
 
#37 ·
Thanks for all the replies on this original post. Great information.

After dissecting it all, I decided to go with the Continental DWS06. The increased snow and wet performance weighed in my decision. So far, it’s been a great tire. I’m 4 weeks in. It was the right choice for me.

Road noise - identical IMO to the Scorpion Verde. First week a little more noise, but once I got some miles on them, they are the same.
Wet traction - better IMO
Snow traction - better IMO
Dry traction - same IMO
Treadlife - don’t know yet

From perusing lots of reviews of all season tires, the cliche that all seasons are a compromise holds true. That being said, each tire does some things better than others and vice versa. You have to pick what is most important to you and be willing to compromise a bit. Switching tires seasonally is still the best option if you don’t mind the expense, hassle, and storage requirement. I’ve done it both ways, but on this particular vehicle I’m pretty happy with premium all seasons.