The CrossClimates are, IMO, new to the US market. Have heard/seen/read good things about them but all in the Euro market. BTW, I am looking at Nokian WRG4s too and although not the exact size, they are available in 255/45R20 for us. Also, look at Vredestein Quatrac 5 in 245/45R20, in addition to Nokians, Toyos, and Michelins.

 

Once the stock Pirelli tires are done, I'm looking at this CrossClimate SUV or the new Primacy Tour A/S to replace it. Seems like the CrossClimate+ for cars are getting great reviews. I'm looking for comfort with ride quality and noise as a priorities with driving performance in dry and wet as a very close second.

I have winter tires, so whichever tire I plan on buying will be used primarily in 3 seasons.

Let us know what you end up buying and please share your experience.

 

I am curious about the CrossClimate tires. Has anyone used them?

 

I am curious about the CrossClimate tires. Has anyone used them?

 

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I have them on my V90 CC, have used for around 20,000 miles, and they still have around 5.5mm of tread left, so 40,000 miles seems possible

The grip in the cold weather we get in the UK was excellent last winter

 

I had these installed just a week ago - I havent noticed much of a difference between them and the stock Pirelli's on dry/wet city and highway which is about as good as I can hope for. I will report back once we get into some real snow falls.

BTW, they were not readily available as stock in that size is quite low. I also wanted to look at the Vredestein's but could not locate a dealer who actually has ever installed them.

 

Did you install the Michelin Cross Climate Plus SUV or other variations?

How is the noise at various speeds and road surfaces?

Thanks

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I love my Nordman WR’s. Made by Nokian, and so quiet compared to my wife’s Nokian WGR3’s! Great price too.

 

I can only make a fair comparison with the stock Pirelli's.

The handling and comfort are comparable - not enough difference for me to notice. There is a small amount of additional road noise with the Michelins. The snow traction has been quite good - a marked improvement over the Pirelli's. I have not yet had a single time when I felt there was an unpredictable loss in traction.

One unexpected downside to the Michelin's is it makes the car quite a bit dirtier - it picks up a lot more slush/water from the road than the Pirelli's. I havent yet looked into mud flaps but it is on my list.

 

On my V90CC I have 2 sets of wheels:

summer: PIRELLI P ZERO 245/45 R 20"
winter: NOKIAN WR SUV 4 235/50 R 19"

I find this combination very nice.. having separate summer and winter wheels.. winter is 19" with bigger tire profile so at the end both sets have the same diameter (and the bigger tire profile is nice for snow and hidden bumps on the road).

I'm happy with both tires.. although the nokian's do make a bit of road noise.. but very good handling with heavy rain and with snow/ice. I recommend

 

I'm planning to do the same thing with my new 2020 V90 CC! ru1 did your V90 CC come with 19" or 20" wheels?

 

My V90CC came with 20" summer tires.. but where I live, winter tires are mandatory from Oct-April.
So, when I ordered my car I was investigating online prices of 20" winter tires.. and it was about 1000 EUR for 4 tires (only tires).

Then, at VOLVO, I had this conversation:
...
VOLVO: You know, the car will be delivered with summer tires.. do you want to buy winter tires?
ME: humm.. I'm thinking of buying them online...
VOLVO: how much do you think it will cost you?
ME: around 1000 EUR..
VOLVO: humm.. for that price.. let me see.. we can offer you tires with wheels

so.. after looking at the wheels and tires (NOKIAN WR SUV 4 235/50 R 19") and after a quick double check online.. I said YES!

So now with the 2 sets, I do the change myself (this saves me at least 160 EUR/year - cost that I had on my previous car of changing the tires twice a year)

 

ru1 do you have any issues with the TPMS when you swap wheels/tires each season? I plan to do the same as you with my new V90 CC and with my current Subaru Outback I have to take the car in and have the TPMS reset everytime I do the swap!

 

I had a Subaru legacy and wound up not putting TPMS sensors in my winter wheels. Depending on the year you have, subaru only allows you to store one set of sensors. There are 2 ways to solve this, bring it to the dealer whenever you change your wheels and pay them to have them calibrated or you can buy a second control board (I forget the exact part, but it was a little box that was under the driver's seat) have it programmed once and swap the box when you change your wheels. At least on mine, Subaru was using a direct TPMS system with sensors in each wheel.

In 2017, Volvo started using an indirect TPMS system which uses the wheel speed sensors to detect loss of air pressure. If a tire starts losing air it will rotate at a different speed than the other tires. For the indirect system, as stated, when you swap wheels, set your pressures, hit the calibrate button and drive around a bit. Makes swapping wheels really nice, but I prefer the direct sensors since I think they do a better job of detecting leaks.

I have the 20" wheel option and I picked up a set of 19" Volvo OEM wheels and put the stock tire size on them. Haven't had any issues with them on the car and the overall diameter difference between the tires is very small. Call Nick at Re-Volv in Oxford, MA. He gave me a good price on some OEM port takeoffs that I use for my winter wheels. He will ship and the price he was offering makes it well worth it.

 

No problem at all.
After I swap the wheels I always go to the nearest gas station to check the tire pressure and after go for a ride.. 20kms or so and press the TPMS button "calibrate/store pressure".. it takes a while.. a few kms and then all goes green.
That's it. No stress. (I'm not even sure if this is actually necessary, but anyway, I do it)

BUT, be aware of this: (from the user manual)

When changing to another tyre dimension
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Check that the tyre dimension is approved for use on the car.
Contact an authorised Volvo workshop for updating the software at each change of tyre dimension.
A software download may be necessary both when changing to larger and smaller dimensions, and also when switching between summer and winter wheels.

This doesn't apply to me because, even though I have summer 20" rims and winter 19" rims, the tire profile is bigger on the 19" rims so the diameter of the tires are in fact very similar (20" vs 19").

 

 

With 70k miles on my stock Pirelli tires, I finally bought Michelin CrossClimate SUV tires for my V90CC (245/45R20). The Pirellis still have decent tread left on them, so I'm planning to change over late fall. I'll probably have 80-85k miles on the Pirellis by then. The Pirellis have been nice to me, but have started hydroplaning in heavy rains on the Interstates, so I do not want them to go through a 3rd winter. They performed decently in the Michigan snow/ice too, but not as much as my Nokian WRG3s did (on my Ford Taurus).

If anyone is looking to buy, Michelin has rebates going on ($120.00 gift card) and it cost me a total of $670.00 for four brand new CrossClimates. That's a good deal, IMO.

My CrossClimates have a 52nd week of 2019 mfg date on them, if it matters!

When time comes, I'll update here, how they stand up to Michigan snow, and in general.

 

I recently put the CrossClimates on my 2009 XC70. LOVING them.

 

Back in the 1980's I drove an office car in winter from Oslo to Amsterdam via the Goteborg-Kiel ferry, and through Germany. Norway and Sweden required studded winter tires, Germany and the Netherlands did not. So I carried mounted summer tires with me, paying a gas station attendant just outside the port to swap them going and returning. The car was a Ford Sierra station wagon, forerunner of the Mondeo/Fusion, so at least I had enough cargo space.

 

I live in Maine and don't let bad weather stop me from going out or traveling as I need to for my job. MOST people here use a second set of wheels/tires for winter. IMHO all seasons just don't excel at either job...summer or winter. I have Indy 500 275/40/18 on TSW Chronos for summer.
245/45/18 Nokian R3 on Motegi wheels. The factory 20" wheels were removed, cleaned and put in shed until I trade in the car. I NEVER liked the stiff road and tire noise with the 20" factory setup. The TSW combo is over 6lbs. lighter per corner. This makes for a car that is quieter over bumps, allows suspension to track bumps easier and in general less NVH. For those that don't want to spend the 1600 or so to put a dedicated winter setup on, what is your life and your families safety worth?????? Never mind the ultra convenience of a simple changeover in your own driveway!

 

For those that don't want to spend the 1600 or so to put a dedicated winter setup on, what is your life and your families safety worth?????? Never mind the ultra convenience of a simple changeover in your own driveway!

My 2-cents for people trying to money and safety shame people who use all-weathers:

Not everyone running a single set of tires year-round does it to save money or to jeopardize their family's safety. I do not have the convenience of changing my own tires. I hate being caught off-guard when the weather (in Michigan) changes drastically over a period of hours. It might be sunny and mid-60s in the day, and it drops to just above freezing by night. I cannot keep going back and forth changing tires to care for such instances.

I would rather care for my family's safety by putting on tires, that I know will perform decently in the worst of the winters and the hottest of the summers, than have dedicated sets and be caught in the middle of a snow storm on summer/all-season tires, or a sweaty 90F with winter tires.

Also, to add, I regularly keep driving from Michigan to Texas for personal reasons. That's going from -20F to 60-70F in a matter of 21 hours. I cannot afford (time & money) to switch them out every single time, not to mention, even if I could afford it, the risk of getting caught in a snow storm on summer tires when driving back, or arriving in Texas when it's 80-90F on winter tires.

Confidence in my own driving also plays a small part in knowing when to back off when faced with extreme driving situations, based on the tires I'm using.

I totally agree dedicated winter tires will always be better in the winter than all-weathers. But that's it. It takes nothing else into account, no flexibility whatsoever for the dynamic weather changes 99% of the people see. There are so many other factors that come into play for others, which make them use a really, really good all-weather tire.

 

Earlier this year, when my V90 CC had about 36k miles on it, the front end of the car started to vibrate at about 70-75mph. After going through the forums here, I thought it was some of the drivetrain issues other folks were having, so I was preparing myself for a hassle with my dealer. They came back to me and said they thought it was the stock Pirelli's on the car. I admittedly was skeptical, but decided to swap out the tires. They tried to sell me another set of the Scorpions, but I told them if the tires were causing that issue at 36k miles, then I'm not going back. So I went online and did some research on the CrossClimates and didn't find a ton of information outside of some reviews in Europe. But I decided to bite the bullet and ordered them on TireRack and had them sent to the dealer for install.

The new tires were just balanced, there was no alignment done on it, so when I first got it on the highway and the car was smooth at the speeds where it used to vibrate, I knew it was the Scorpions that went bad. I've put about 4k miles on the Michelins now and agree with the folks on here that have already posted. Overall, I really like the tire and would put them on again, based on my experience so far. They definitely have some low speed growl to them - you can hear it more at low speeds - but it's not a deal breaker. It also definitely throws out dirt and water over the lower end of the car more than the Scorpions, but again, I'd rather wash my car a little more than drive this type of car and have it shake on the highway. I'm excited to try them out for the winter too.

 

Just installed CrossClimate SUV tires on 2019 XC60. Initial impression:
Traction in dry and wet, very good
Rides like on rails but is a bit stiffer than the Conti's that came on as OEM
Stops on a dime.
There is a low rumble / hum or maybe more like echo on the highway if its concrete. Minor but noticeable.
Still, with all of the various weather here in Denver and the mountains they make sense to me. Wish they had made the new CrossClimate 2 version to fit the Volvo 20 rims. Understand they are quieter, but alas, they do not.

 

About the Crossclimate: I would accept the A rated traction on the SUV vs the B rating on the 2 if only a small noise level is the difference.

I'm also not sure, but I believe the SUV has different internal ply build to accommodate better dynamics for light off-road use.

2018 V90 CC T6 P*

 

About the Crossclimate: I would accept the A rated traction on the SUV vs the B rating on the 2 if only a small noise level is the difference.

I'm also not sure, but I believe the SUV has different internal ply build to accommodate better dynamics for light off-road use.

2018 V90 CC T6 P*

You are correct that the SUV has stronger construction, but on the traction ratings, that's an outdated testing system that tests traction when wheels are locked. The CrossClimate 2s have increased traction in real world conditions.

 

I recently put the CrossClimate 2 on my 2020 V60 CC and so far the one thing I will say is they are pretty quiet. I live in New England so we’ll see how the winter goes. Supposedly the soften up in the winter and cold climates without sacrificing the summer firmness. Sounds great, so we will see.
YMMV

 

Is anyone using CrossClimate 2 on their V90CC? My 2018 V90CC T5 came with Pirelli Scorpion Vrede 235/50R19/XL 103V and the CrossClimate2 comes in the same size with the same load and speed rating. But the Michelin tire compatibility tool on Michelin's website does not list this tire as compatible with the V90CC. Anyone know why? Anyone have any experiences with this 19" size on a V90CC one way or the other?

 

I have this tire on my RAV4, not a serious winter tire. I have Vredestein snows 235/55/18 on my V90CC. Great in snow, packed or loose. Great through slush and snotty roads. Good on dry roads, a little rumble. When the weather is dicey the RAV4 stays in garage because of the tires. But, I do live in Maine, we got 30” last weekend!

 

I just got Michelin X-Ice's put on my 2018 V90CC T5's 19" rims and they are great. I have a quarter-mile incredibly steep gravel driveway in rural Vermont. And thus far they have been up to the task.

 

I have a T8 XC90 with CrossClimate 2s. They’re about as good as I’ve experienced for winter performance in an all-season. I’m in the mountains of Colorado and have always gone with a 4 tire winter/summer rotation.

I had both Blizzaks and Ice-X on my previous V90CC. The Blizzaks are excellent but tread wear is an issue. The Ice-X seemed to perform slightly better than the CrossClimates, but definitely not a significant drop off.

Most notably the last 2 days of sub-zero temperatures and hard pack/ice completely covering the roads; I can of course spin the CrossClimates if I try, but grip was good and braking didn’t suffer at 40-50mph.