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Hello Volvo? My dealer's service dept sucks

2.2K views 21 replies 11 participants last post by  lawnany  
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After my recent 15,000 mile maintenance, warranty work and front brake pad replacement, I received my paperwork. On it was a conspicuous sticker that said "If you cannot give us 10's on the satisfaction survey, please call our svc manager."

Well, I was not happy. They wouldn't perform the fix for the "in the morning, can't get into reverse" technote because they couldn't reproduce the issue. This was the second time I've brought it in for that same issue. In the past, they've also been unable to reproduce the intermittent axle ping issue and I've just given up trying to get them to fix it.

Then, they replaced my front brake pads, which still 1000 miles later squeal like a freakin' bastard.

They also finally fixed my low pointing light issue, which they insisted the last time around was set to the stock, factory level. But, that wasn't a complaint this time around, nor was it listed on my paperwork. I'm guessing that they finally turned the lights on during the SUM calibration, but that's not listed either.

And finally, they actually did the technote for the side-step - to absolutely no effect. It's still just as bad and I have given up on the engine hesitation issue as well.

Anyway, back to the sticker. I called the service manager and left a VM. He returned the call with another VM. THen I called him 3 more times, left three more messages over a week period with no response.

So I called Volvo. At least they have an (800) number with someone I could vent to. The helpful gal there promised that they would work with the dealer to address my concerns. Hopefully, that will at least generate a dialog.

Am I over-reacting to this? I am just feeling very frustrated with the lack of concern or professionalism with this whole thing. This is supposed to be a car that draws people to Volvo and it worked for me, but this lack of service and customer focus will just as certainly drive me away.

The sad thing is that I really like the car, but service is a huge feel-good component for any brand to succeed.
 
#2 ·
Re: Hello Volvo? My dealer's service dept sucks (former)

I don't know if you are overreacting. Most people probably won't bother. Usually, I say something if I am unhappy, but this time, I am so aggravated at my dealer, I am not bothering, I am just going to have to drive an hour for service now.

I took my newly-purchased used R to a certain dealer in a certain town in a certain state I happen to reside in (Hey, I would like to leave them anonymous). When I scheduled the appt, I explained it was used, and wanted it to get a good looksie. I was comforted - oh that car belonged to so-and-so, and he did all his oil changes here early mileage, we have done all the work, we know the car, it's in great shape.

They performed the 30K mile loss-leader service. I call it loss-leader, as it was free, but it was a great excuse to find $700 worth of problems. The conversation started with (I kid you not) "This car really needs a lot of work." I pondered where the R we discussed the day before had gone.

Here's my favorite - the front brake pads were at "5mm." The service advisor acted like it would be against the law to let me leave with the pads that thin. However, I knew the dealer I had bought it from had done a PDI on the car, and front brakes were part of the inspection, and therefore, would be fixed by them for free, so I assured her my life insurance was paid up (seriously), and took it back to them.

So, I go to pick up the car, and find that it had been driven over 10 miles from the parking lot in back to the service bay (the really long way). I guess that would explain how they wore the brakes down more, as the paperwork now showed the brakes at 4-5 mm, and it noted I refused service.

So, long story short, the other dealer's outsourced PDI mechanic replaces the brakes, and saves the pads for me (as he apparently got his butt ripped by the dealership), and showed me they were at 7.6 mm!!!!! So, I called the Volvo dealer, explained the situation (and how I looked stupid throwing a fit about the brakes at the dealership where I bought the car). I told her I felt the tech inspecting the brakes had made a mistake. At this point, I was told "It's not a big deal, 5 mm is marginal" (Glad Volvo changed the spec, the day before, I was taking my life in my own hands) So, I asked if they wanted the pads as a teaching tool for the tech. Basically, I was told, whatever. This pretty much confirmed my suspicion that it was not a mistake.

I am also 90% certain they scratched a Peg too, but, whatever. Am I overreacting?

Modified by BlkT5inNM at 1:51 PM 9-7-2005
 
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Re: Hello Volvo? My dealer's service dept sucks (dragon17)

No. It's my dear friends at Calabasas Volvo who are the culprits here. And I did actually buy the car there which is why I keep taking the car there. I suppose it is a flawed assumption that builds any goodwill in the service department.

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Re: Hello Volvo? My dealer's service dept sucks (former)

I recently took my new 05 R in to fix a internal door latch and to update the transmission control software ... probably 45 minutes worth of work.

Made an appointment two days in advance.

Dropped the car off ... they kept it two days, didn't even get to it until the afternoon of the second day.

I gave the service manager hell ... told them that making an appointment in advance means they have my car scheduled to be worked on. If they can't work on the car that day, just give me an appointment on a different day when they have a time slot, don't just keep my car parked in their back lot. He said they couldn't anticipate their work load.

So I said what the hell good is making an appointment?
 
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Re: Hello Volvo? My dealer's service dept sucks (dawghouse)

Quote, originally posted by dawghouse »

So I said what the hell good is making an appointment?

Try making it a week or two in advance instead, that's what I do.
 
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Re: Hello Volvo? My dealer's service dept sucks (Warpedcow)

Yeah ... but the thing I pointed out to the service manager was that if they were too busy on that day to work on my car, I'd expect him to tell me he can't make an appointment on that day ... i.e., to me, if the service manager says he can make an appointment, that means he can schedule my car on that day ... otherwise he should just tell me the first 'opening' he has is next week and I'll keep driving my car until then.
 
#11 ·
mine had 3 new scratches on the side when i picked it up from having an oil change. I am not sure how the service dept is yet...... i will find out this weekend when I drop it off to have to scratches taken out...... but the sales dept has looked out for me so far. My salesman knows more about the R than the service people do.
 
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Re: (R_Rated)

The last time I took my car to a "local" dealer (who will remain unnamed to protect the incompetent), for the THIRD time (and never a loaner - a big inconvenience), to fix headlights pointing down (which were OK before their recently misperformed software flash), it came back with OVER 9 EXTRA MILES on it, headlights STILL pointing down, AND with a BROKEN headlight adjuster motor. And with their usual excuse that last year's "deer accident" is the cause for it all.

We are pretty much finished with this local dealer. I am leery to even trust them with an oil change.

Fortunately, there are a couple of excellent service facilities in this region, but the nearest one is a 40 minute drive.

But more importantly, Volvo has lost future sale(s), as my wife refuses to buy a car for herself that requires a 40+ minute trek for good service. I can't really blame her considering what chronic grief the local dealer has caused this owner. And several of you know that this is not the first, or even the second, bad service experience with this particular facility.

SERVICE DOES IMPACT SALES. I'm sure Volvo knows this.
 
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Re: (sgmlaw)

Quote, originally posted by sgmlaw »
SERVICE DOES IMPACT SALES. I'm sure Volvo knows this.

They know it but do the workaround (ie. bring out new product and pick up new Volvo customers to replace the ones that leave). However, the new ones will get fed up and leave as well and thus the cycle continues.

Modified by MagoonR at 3:21 PM 9-7-2005
 
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Re: (R_Rated)

Quote, originally posted by R_Rated »
would br way better for bussiness to keep old and get new ones. I am in sales myself and it cost 300% to get a new customer as it does to farm existing customers!

So true. But warranty work and training costs $$$$ so it's better not to throw money at it.
 
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Re: (R_Rated)

Quote, originally posted by R_Rated »
you guys are scaring me, I have to drop mine with 3K (still smells new) miles off tomorrow and I have a big show next week........ i hope they don't screw anything up......

If you have a competent and willing dealer, nothing to worry about.
 
#18 ·
we shall see, they did put some scratches in the side. The guy that moved it and the guy that did the work both said openly that the scratched definitely were not there when I dropped it off and the manager said that no way did it happen while in for service....... but she would fix it anyway. I did not even get a chance to start the car when I saw the scraches. Anyways, they didn't do it on purpose and they are fixing it.
 
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Re: (MASH)

Quote, originally posted by MASH »
NAME THE DEALERS so other people know about the sh**ty service before they use them!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Ok, in case you missed my many other posts warning you, Kline sucks, go to Borton Volvo in Golden Valley!!

BTW, check out the forums on http://www.mnvolvo.com as well.
 
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Re: Hello Volvo? My dealer's service dept sucks (dragon17)

I have found Galpin Volvo to be the best through personal experience over the course of 43 service visits.
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Tried: Galpin,Calabassas, Santa Monica, Volvo of Vegas and both RUSNAC Volvos.

I have found RUSNAC to be the ABSOLUTE worst by far. I reccomend you _DO NOT_ take your car there.
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