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Fuel Tank Size!

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#1 · (Edited)
Apologises to those who did point it out in this thread some time ago -

http://forums.swedespeed.com/showth...howthread.php?262154-Volvo-Cars-Debuts-the-S90-Luxury-Sedan&highlight=fuel+tank

but I've only just seen the specs on the size of the fuel tank in the S90 and V90. At just 60 litres or 15.9 gal (and the T5 AWD is even smaller @ 55 litres) this is smaller than the fuel tank in the current 60 Series Volvos. This surely is a joke? Here in Australia we've become accustomed to Euro-centric car manufacturers using smaller fuel tanks but this 60 litres is on par with the much smaller mid-sized BMW 3 Series. This will not go down well here in Australia where driving range - for both city and country-based drivers - is an important factor in choosing a car. I thought the 71 litres on the new XC90 was on the small size compared with what competitors such as the X5 and Q7, but a 60 litres fuel tank on a large car is plain ridiculous.

I am left to wonder what this may mean for the smaller SPA 60 series Volvos.

Tony

Edit : and I've realised its even smaller than the 62 litre fuel tank of the small FWD V40 and equals the 60 litres of our departed C30 T5!
 
#4 ·
I switched my beloved Acura TL (/06) 9 months ago -- best car I ever had 140,000 miles and only $1,200 in repairs -- to a /15 Audi 3.0T. I love the fact that it has 20 gallon US fuel capacity. It gets incredibly good mileage on highway for a full size car. However, wife's /13 S80T6 has 18 gallons or so and I don't find it to be an issue on highway trips. Maybe the S90/V90 will get 35mpg+ US on the highway?
 
#6 · (Edited)
Come on Man! You know they should not have regressed from the 18.5 Gal capacity. Good luck getting 525 miles in real world US driving with these heavy cars. Not a deal breaker, but yet another disappointing concession.

Competition:

Mercedes E Class: 21.1 gal

BMW 5 Series: 18.5 gal

Audi A6: 19.8 gal

Cadillac CTS: 19.0 gal

Lexus GS: 17.4 gal

Audi A4: 15.3 gal. (Not the competition, is it?)
 
#9 ·
Why is this an issue? You get at least 7 to 8 hours of constant driving with that tank and for some reason that's not enough and considered to be a deal breaker?!

Two hours of driving is about maximum I'm able to tolerate. I need to stretch my legs, take a leak, have something to eat, cup of coffee, etc... There're at least tens of gas stations directly along the route to choose from and fill up while having a nice break.
 
#11 ·
That's you my friend. Maybe ask yourself why ALL the competition use bigger tanks? Maybe ask yourself why ALL current Volvo's use bigger tanks? Consider that many people in sales use these cars for long distance travel. My wife, for one, has been known to drive 4-5 hours on rural roads (avoid I95) to visit customers or when heading home, without making a stop. She'd prefer not to stop in backwoods PA, NJ and NY gas stations if she can help it. When visiting my parents 6-10 times per year, I easily drive 3.5 to 4 hours straight without the need to stop. Keep in mind, that Volvo sport seats are very comfortable, so my back does not ache, unlike prior cars I've owned. If I only had such comfortable seats and larger tank size years ago when I traveled numerous times across country to attend school in AZ; driving 10-14 hours per day, and making as few stops as possible. Trust me, there's not much around for very long stretches while cruising through Indiana, OK, northern Texas, New Mexico, and Arizona.

You all seem to think these little 2.0L super-turbo engines will return 30+ MPG on every trip. Unless you are cruising at <60 MPH with little traffic on flat roads, this heavy vehicle will manage maybe 23 MPG with the T6, and maybe 25 MPG with the T5.
 
#15 ·
Nope, in 15 years of my V70R we had 4 people in the car a handful of times, never, ever five.
Yet every time I filled up I wanted to go further.
I road trip far more often than I stuff the car.
I would love even 3 more gallons. -bw
 
#24 ·
hey maybe it's just me, but I'm totally confused by the engine nomenclature.....T5 drive e, T6 drive e....what the heck?? If we have a 4 cylinder with turbo and supercharger, why not call it T4S?....or TS4?....or even .....ahh whatever....
 
#26 ·
Ah, didn't know. Makes sense now, but contradicts Yannis's assertion that the T6-e manages T6 I6 power at much lower rpm's, if max hp is had over 3,500 rpm's? Still would love to see a power curve comparison.


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#29 ·
Resurrecting an old thread here but I'd be interested to hear how people are finding the range of their S/V90's?

I was initially put off by the small tank (55L I read on Parkers) same size as my current Skoda Yeti! I average around 40mpg in that and between 400-450 miles per tank, I'd be happy to get 500+ under the same conditions I guess. It nearly swayed me to the practically identical Audi A6 (spec for spec) which has a 78L tank - but then I couldn't face being a generic "company car" driver, or Audi driver generally for that matter. :D It's not that I drive vast distances in one run that often, just that I don't like filling up any more often than I need to. :)

Interestingly I read one of the decisions regarding fuel tank sizes has to do with emissions and economy figures for the "Official" tests - that's why the Audi A4 has a pathetic 40L tank - it helped them creep under some emissions rating or something with lower weight as tests done with full tank - customers have to spec a free upgrade to 55L if they want it! Crazy.
 
#30 ·
This weekend on a round trip, 115 miles almost all highway up and down hills, I averaged 29.5 mpg. So that would give me around 470 miles range. Windows and sunroof were wide open for almost the entire trip, and we didn't turn the AC off either, and I wasn't driving conservatively at all. I'm willing to bet I could get 500 out of it in Eco Mode with the windows closed.
 
#33 · (Edited)
So, imagine my surprise when I sit in my XC90 T8 the first time, just to find out that it has a 13 gallon tank!
13!!!!

I know, I should have done my homework, but I was familiar with the T6 specs and it never occurred to me that the T8 could have a smaller tank.

I almost returned the car. Eventually, I decided to just go with it. But my GF lives 520 miles from me, and on that drive, I have to stop twice, usually, as I generally don't start with a full tank. It's ludicrous, and not in a good way...


Just to explain my frustration - I live in Buffalo, NY. Our winters are cold. And NY has stupid laws about gas pumps, so you cannot lock it, but have to stand there and hold the damn thing the whole time. Also, NY has strict laws on maximum pressure on fuel lines, so it's slower than anything I have ever seen elsewhere. So frequent stops at the gas pump are something I truly despise.
 
#35 ·
15.9-gallon gas tank V90 CC

So, imagine my surprise when I sit in my XC90 T8 the first time, just to find out that it has a 13 gallon tank!
13!!!!

I know, I should have done my homework, but I was familiar with the T6 specs and it never occurred to me that the T8 could have a smaller tank.

I almost returned the car. Eventually, I decided to just go with it. But my GF lives 520 miles from me, and on that drive, I have to stop twice, usually, as I generally don't start with a full tank. It's ludicrous, and not in a good way...

Just to explain my frustration - I live in Buffalo, NY. Our winters are cold. And NY has stupid laws about gas pumps, so you cannot lock it, but have to stand there and hold the damn thing the whole time. Also, NY has strict laws on maximum pressure on fuel lines, so it's slower than anything I have ever seen elsewhere. So frequent stops at the gas pump are something I truly despise.
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Yes, this is a big factor for me in my deliberation to buy a new Cross Country T6 ... and not just because I also live in a northern snowy climate. I just don't like so many trips to the gas station, period. I have a 2001 XC70 wagon that has a 21-gallon tank, and I go to the gas station a lot more than I want to even with decent gas mileage. Given up 5 gallons to get the new 2018 V90 XC wagon is such a dreadful idea, and it's a huge negative as I weigh Volvo vs. other cars. If there was a T8 hybrid version of the V90 Cross Country, it might help my decision favorably.