I don't think I've ever seen a middle fold down seat in the XC60. Unless it was specific to MY 2012 and before or it's a .CA option.

I've always put long items on the roof rack (Thule purchase) and called it a day.

 

No it is not an option that has XC60, for rear seat divisible 40:20:40, only 40:60

 

All XC60s that I've seen used to have 40:20:40 folding rear seats. It's FAR more convenient than mounting my Thule on the roof every time we want to go skiing. I don't leave the Thule on because I can't fit in any of the Toronto parking garages. Taking the Thule on and off the car every winter is a bit of a hassle.

So, I still don't understand how someone thought the silly little pass through hole is a better idea? It's definitely not an improvement.

Poor decision by Volvo in my view. Maybe the folks at Volvo have never tried to load more than 2 pairs of skis through the hole?

 

For skis I always put them on roof load bar. I don't want to spend time clean them up and put inside the car.
I have not bought roof load bar for XC60 though. Currently I am using a very simple tightened hook fastener for skis on my old car.

 

No need to clean skis, there is a ski bag: Premium or standard

 

I’ve still never seen an XC60 with a 40:20:40 rear seat arrangement

 

Our '15.5 XC60 has the 40:20:40 rear seat as does the '16 V60. It's quite handy.

 

My 13 had them as well, but I agree the little hatch isn't as useful.

 

I dont know of many non Volvos that have em. Likely expensive and not needed to be competitive in the lux class. The old folding seats were better for cargo but I hear very few complaints from buyers. Volvo does a great job with listening to feedback though IMO. We even got the little ticket windshield clip back for 2020! Small victories....

 

... Volvo does a great job with listening to feedback though IMO....

Hahahaha. Had to laugh at this. Hasn't been my experience at all.

 

All model years of the first generation XC60 had 40/20/40 split folding rear seats, which was ideal for skis. The ski pass through on SPA class XC60’s is a bit lame. I suppose if I’m just going on a day or overnight ski trip I’ll just fold down the passenger side rear seats and stick the skis in the same bag I used in my last XC60. For a longer trip I’ll have to get crossbars and use my roofbox.

 

You don't realize you miss the 40/20/40 split rear seat until you need it. That is one of the things we miss the most coming from our 2016 XC60 to the 2019 XC60. We used the middle fold down section for the umbrella stroller to pass through. We just have to get a little more creative packing the trunk now.

 

I too miss the 40/20/40 set up from our previous Volvos but have gotten used to not having them. But what I really miss is the fold flat front passenger seat. I used that feature all the time with really long items. Wish Volvo would bring this back or at least offer it as an option for those willing to pay for it. Those of us who have been with Volvo a long time notice these little things quietly going away. Ticket Clip is another one!

 

Interesting discussion. I know LOTS of cars in this segment that still offer 40/20/40 folding rear seats - BMW, VW, Mercedes... I guess I'm just questioning WHY Volvo would think the little opening is in any way better than 40/20/40?

No one here has offered any explanation. Did the Volvo designers have a meeting and someone actually thought this was an improvement? Puzzling.

Perhaps it's a cost issue?

 

Interesting discussion. I know LOTS of cars in this segment that still offer 40/20/40 folding rear seats - BMW, VW, Mercedes... I guess I'm just questioning WHY Volvo would think the little opening is in any way better than 40/20/40?

No one here has offered any explanation. Did the Volvo designers have a meeting and someone actually thought this was an improvement? Puzzling.

Perhaps it's a cost issue?

Everyone would agree that 40/20/40 is more convenient. Pretty sure in terms of manufacturing cost it is also a more convenient setup as well since there is less assembly and materials (because of the double structure of an armrest and whatever cupholder feature there would be). I would think it really is a platform/structural reason either in the car frame or the seatframe design that doesn't allow for fully secure (or to Volvo's standards) middle seat.

 

Should I assume that Volvo put the 40/20/49 seats in on the 2014 refresh since I never saw them on my 2013 or should I assume there were options in 2013 and before for them?

 

As I stated before, my '13 R-Design had them, if you never saw them, perhaps they were part of a package you didn't have.

 

That was another assumption I meant to state. A different package.

 

From the '13 brochure it appears to be a standard item.

PACK & LOAD Compartment
Three-split 40/20/40 rear seat
Ergonomically designed three-split rear seat provide generous
support for the body during long journeys and flexibility when
required. Lowering the entire center section provides ample
space for loading long items. To provide multiple load
configurations with a flat load floor, each of the three seats
can be folded separately or together. What’s more, the rear
seats only take one step to manuever.

 

I guess I'm not the only one confused then.

Here's a 2018 XC60 that states it has 40/20/40 seats

https://www.underrinervolvo.com/volvo-xc60-interior/

Go figure

 

It was written by a journalist who never looked at the trunk and rear seats in the car.

Look at the official pages written by Volvo, there it says: Rear seat with folding two-split 60/40 backrest
https://www.volvocars.com/intl/cars/new-models/xc60/specifications/features#

And if you need more space, the rear seat backrests fold separately in two sections to make it possible to combine both cargo and passengers without compromising on comfort.
https://www.volvocars.com/uk/cars/n...w-models/xc60/specifications/features#item-d98ea560-c9fc-45ed-9bc7-2edb363246c0

60/40 only, all markets

 

I was being silly

As are you apparently.

 

 

Do you lurk much Hatchy?

Good clip, BTW. LOL

 

Ticket clip is back for 2020 and I've already had it added to a 2019 for a customer (we were replacing the windshield anyhow. Windshield does not have to be removed, but the A pillar covering does). Less than $2 in parts. Who says everything is expensive.

 

For some reason, I recall the ticket clip going away and coming back on a fairly regular basis. It's there one year, then gone for a year or two only to be back for a couple of years and then taken away again.

No rhyme or reason to it at all.

 

I’m a recent first time Volvo owner but my ‘18 XC60 has doo-hickeys next to the vanity mirrors on the visors that I would describe as ticket clips?


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I'm a recent first time Volvo owner but my '18 XC60 has doo-hickeys next to the vanity mirrors on the visors that I would describe as ticket clips?

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Is it visible from outside if you clip something there?

 

Out of curiosity, I decided to follow up with Volvo Canada, just to inquire "why" this was removed... These are their two answers:

"The final decision of including specific features in a vehicle will always be the result of a 'demand/cost to produce' ratio. The data shows that producing a 40/20/40 rear seat is not effective at this time when considering the 'demand/cost to produce' ratio of offering such a rear seat configuration."

I suggested that it sounds more like a cost issue, as I can't see anyone NOT wanting this feature. So, they then followed up again with:

"We were as well informed by the Design and Engineering Team that, as a matter of safety, the 40/20/40 seat configuration showed a higher incidence of injury inside the cabin as objects are propelled forward in cases of 'hard braking/accidents' scenarios."

This is the only reason that makes sense, it's purely a safety thing. I'm not sure why they didn't just reply with that reason in the first place, but that's okay. If this was communicated with the dealership when I asked 2 weeks ago, I wouldn't have even posted here.

Regards,

 

I am not surprised at all. It is the only sensible reason, and it is one that squarely fit in the design mindset of the company. Safety first.

 

JHFC



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While at the dealer last week I noticed that the new XC90s have a 40/20/40 seat configuration. This seemed to contradict Volvo's reason for removing this option on most of their new models. It in fact it's a matter of safety, why keep it on some models? Does this make the XC90 unsafe?

So, naturally I had to ask Volvo again, and this was the reply... "The 40-20-40 split maximizes versatility in the XC90 when putting large items in the cargo area. By no means is the vehicle unsafe, this is the way the vehicle was designed. All XC90's have had a 40-20-40 split rear seat since 2003 when the XC90 was first launched. I am not sure where Jean received this information and apologize for its inaccuracy. Med vänliga hälsningar! Sincerely, Volvo Car Canada Limited"

So, if it's not a reason of safety, what is the reason? I'll see what Volvo says...

Regards,

 

Probably the same reason that the XC60 has that hard plastic glovebox (instead of the soft covered one in the XC90): $.

 

XC90 comes in a 7 seater configuration too. In order to achieve this configuration the rear seats are three independent ones and therefore have seperate railings and operate individually and eventually more secure even with folding down the middle seat's back. This also helps access to the third row seats.