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EC40 and EX40 (2025) Stateside date expectation? Dealers know nothing even though the cars are in Europe and Canada.

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#1 · (Edited)
I'm going to be purchasing an "Ultra" (ultimate) EC40 Vapour Gray when these become available in the US. I'm not opposed to '24 but there are none. Inventories are exhausted.

There are 5 Volvo dealers in my state and I've reached out to multiple sales managers and staff from each location trying to compare notes. These salespeople are clueless...going as far as to argue with me that I have the name wrong (EC40 "There is no such thing")

I did speak to a sales manager at one of Volvo dealerships who is saying "March/April of 2025" arrival which I find hard to believe. One reason being that even today inventories are excruciatingly low on Ultimates. Volvo wouldn't strand their deanships another 6-7 months with no cars. Especially with EX90's trickling out slower than expected, and EX30's being delayed for possibly up to a year.

In each case the salesperson says that they can look in their sales tool and see as far as 6 weeks (as far out as Thanksgiving) out for incoming cars - and nothing is in the queue as far as incoming xx40 EV's at all.

It's as if they stopped making them for the US market.

Anyone have any info?
 
#5 · (Edited)
yeah it's weird. Although I will defend the 2025.5 facelift XC90 a bit. It's a gorgeous car with a refreshed interior and front group. But I'll agree with you that they need to get their pipeline and logistics sorted and fire the executives in charge of running those aspects of the company Volvo is suffering at multiple points; tariff resolution, software bugs, inventories, and dealerships are an incoherent mess. After asking one of the salespersons at my closest Volvo dealership how she was personally surviving with no product to sell; no xc30, ex90, xc40, and c40? She confided, "barely, it's brutal".
 
#3 ·
I think it was similar last year. The 2024 XC40 Recharge and C40 order guides (final version) came out in November of '23. I don't think they started actually coming in until the first quarter of 2024. I suspect it will be similar for the 2025 model year EX40 and EC40. The order guides, product guides, and pricing will hopefully be out in November. And then deliveries in the 1st quarter. Total speculation on my part but it would follow last model year's pattern. I wouldn't be surprised if the earlier production runs are built and shipped only to more lucrative markets with much higher EV demand.
 
#6 ·
I know that up here Volv

Volvo Canada hid the cars from us dealers in Canada and I imagine Volvo USA did the same down there. They want the 24s depleted before they release 2025s.

It was frustrating for us as we sold our '24 demo back in July and had to wait for a '25 to replace it - we went nearly 2 months without a test drive car here.

In Canada, there are still a good amount of Single Motor variants available of XC40, C40 doesn't come in huge numbers anyway. In the Twin, there are more Cores available than any other variant - the interest rates are always higher on Core versions up here. No more Twin Ultimates, very few Twin Plus and hope you like silver. But now you can get '25s released from port and deliver to customers in relatively short order.
 
#7 ·
It was frustrating for us as we sold our '24 demo back in July and had to wait for a '25 to replace it - we went nearly 2 months without a test drive car here.

In Canada, there are still a good amount of Single Motor variants available of XC40, C40 doesn't come in huge numbers anyway. In the Twin, there are more Cores available than any other variant - the interest rates are always higher on Core versions up here. No more Twin Ultimates, very few Twin Plus and hope you like silver. But now you can get '25s released from port and deliver to customers in relatively short order.
Similar situation here. My girlfriend drives an XC40 "Ultimate" and has had it for 35 months for problem free ownership. She is coming up on lease end and would like to get a new one. And I'm interested in getting an EC40 for myself based on liking her outgoing car.

...like you said there are a smattering of Core's and Plus, and maybe 3-4 Ultimates in white, in the entire state. Like I mentioned in a post above, the ports in USA (specifically Long Beach, CA) aren't showing '25 models whatsoever. And one salesperson, who I didn't trust, said "we can see what's left Europe - and nothing is en route to USA."

So we wait. If this (lack of) inventory situation drifts into 2025, she'll buy another brand.
 
#11 · (Edited)
This morning if you go to Volvo.com and click on C40, "This page cannot be found". I think I'm going to go ahead and cancel the plan to purchase a Volvo product at this point. They can't manage information to dealerships, they can't run inventory, and they can't run a website. I'm frankly worried about owning their product at this point.

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#12 ·
This morning if you go to Volvo.com and click on C40, "This page cannot be found". I think I'm going to go ahead and kick the Volvo plan to the curb. They can't manage information to dealerships, they can't run inventory, and they can't run a website. I'm frankly worried about owning their product at this point.
Crazy! Couldn't agree more! Seems like their website is down, maybe they are doing an update. I am going a different route myself.
 
#16 ·
Volvo has been very mum to us. While the C40 is my favorite car Volvo sells, I'd be stoked if we never got another one (or EC40) because we honestly have been losing money on every single BEV we get in... we basically have been trying to give them away as soon as we get them because losing some money now is better than losing a lot down the road (see Save $20,000 of MSRP on remaining brand-new 2023 C40s's from Steingold)

The 2024 BEVs were VERY late to come to us, and the 2025s likely will be the same. I absolutely expect Volvo to leave us with few/none and as much as I love them, I'm super thankful for it. The market is flooded yet with the off rental cars so a pre owned one makes more sense.

Volvo has been crap at making enough Ultimate's/Ultras the last few years. I have no idea why, but they have been in very short supply on every model car.

I think a lot of people who work for Volvo corporate must be very nice people, because they're idiots and I can't figure how else they have a job.

But yeah, I think they're just going to be delayed. We have delivered a single EX40, but that was a fleet sale car. We have zero in our allocation, and doing a search results in zero EC40s showing. Interesting EC40 shows up as a searchable model, and so does EX30... but EX40 is not listed. For that I have to look up XC40 and then select EX40 from the drop down. There is a single EX40s twin motor that does actually show up. There is an Ultra showing at White Plains NY... it's Sage with zinc wool interior. Not on ground yet, in fixed planned stage, but you could reach out to them maybe and get your name on it. Shows expected del in December, but IDK how accurate that is. Might give an idea when others might be out... but that's literally the only one showing as an Ultra. There is also a single motor Plus model in Hunter Volvo NC with a similar delivery date. Those are the only two showing though... so maybe they are fleet sale cancelations or something?
 
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#19 ·
I went through the same misinformation last year waiting for a 2024. I got mine on Nov 11th. There is a website called CarEdge.com Link that allows you to search the entire US for any car including ones in transit. That's how I found my car about 120 miles away. When I looked for a 2025 EX40 I found one at this dealership in transit in White Plains NY Link
 
#20 · (Edited)
I went through the same misinformation last year waiting for a 2024. I got mine on Nov 11th. There is a website called CarEdge.com Link that allows you to search the entire US for any car including ones in transit. That's how I found my car about 120 miles away. When I looked for a 2025 EX40 I found one at this dealership in transit in White Plains NY Link
This is interesting. Using your link I see one EX40 (model year 2025) on the market in New York. (But EC40 isn't a category in their database system yet.) Thanks for the link. I'll keep an eye on this site. Incredible that not even the Volvo website shows 2025's even being a thing yet.

Your link does give us a glimmer of hope.
 
#22 ·
That wasn't directed towards you. I meant a lot of dealers were telling me last year that the 2024's wouldn't arrive until December or January and oh by the way, we have a bunch of 2023's to purchase now. I did not read this entire thread and I didn't see your post. I always appreciate the information that you provide all of us in this forum.
 
#23 ·
@micpagano I mean that's not really misinformation either. Volvo has not given dealers any information that's useful. We didn't get most XC40 recharges until very very late in the model year. The fact that there is one out in the wild showing means one exists... but if a dealer says they don't know when they'll get any and can't find any, its true depending on how close to white plains they are. Volvo has been odd with their idea of going all EV by 2030 (which of course they have dialed back now), but not giving us a real marketable product (it's not marketable if we only have them in stock the second 6 months out of the model year.)

Another challenge with this is while we're very much interest in selling any C40s we have in stock, even if at a loss, we are not willing to do a dealer trade for one at a loss, it just doesn't make any sense (unless the other dealer is willing to take a recharge back). So if someone came to me and said "I want a leftover C40 I would literally send them up to Steingold, because I would be in a better position helping the customer sending them somewhere else than I would be to bring one of their leftovers here so I could be the one to lose well over $10k. Well, I'd try to pitch them on a CPO locate off lease first, but if they absolutely wanted a new one, I'd send them somewhere else unless they were willing to pay MSRP, and that's not how I like to do business. For normal cars, I'm always very upfront about focusing not what I have in stock, but rather what I can get for them. And I mentally have to keep a few hundred bucks in my head for transport costs, it's absolutely not a case where someone gets a "have to compromise great deal", compared to a fair price on the car they actually want. So this whole paragraph.... the market on these is screwed up.
 
#24 ·
I'm getting a ton of misinformation from my dealers. Telling me there is no such thing as an EX40 or EC40 and that I must be confused. This coupled with telling me there are none of the configuration im looking for in the USA (vapor c40 ultimate) when I know there are 8 (I've decided to wait for the '25 ec40 because im interested in the MT interior which is believed to be more common now, like the suede'ish interior was in '24). This is their effort to push the sole remaining white one they have in stock....which is fine if they don't want to bring one in from out of state/dealer trade/whatever - but don't tell me there are none.

Anyway - the good news is that it looks like they might be starting starting to trickle in.

It's too bad the market is screwed up on these because my girlfriends XC40 has been one of the most reliable and pleasurable cars I've driven - AND I HAVE A 2023 Macan GTS on an 18 month lease. (was waiting for the Macan EV which I decided against with it's 52% residual and awful money factor).
 
#25 ·
@Station Sounds more like ignorance than misinformation. I will toot my own horn and say while I'm very far from the best or most knowledgeable sales person, I care about my clients and my product significantly more than most. I enjoy the forums because I do learn a ton from nationwide customers this way and get some industry info (often much better than I get from Volvo). Most folks in the industry either avoid forum or remain as lurkers (reasonable enough, I get in trouble from time to time because of my typing here).

Also at the end of September, Volvo did allow us to punch all our leftover BEVs... meaning they counted as sold in the books for Volvo (and the warranty starts), for a added cash amount (I think it was $1000, but don't hold me to that), they would NOT show up on a nationwide search in Volvos system for dealers, and they would not be generally eligible for dealer trade. So that might well be the clarification for that confusion. If the sales folks don't know that (honestly, I just learned it today because my boss was out the first week of the month and I was off last week), then they'd do a search and see nothing and not know the explanation

And yeah, that all goes to confuse the market on them for sure.
 
#26 · (Edited)
Volvo might be the worst company in the auto industry. I just called the sales MANAGER at my closest of 5 dealerships in CO and was told FLAT OUT that Volvo is not releasing the 2025 EC40 and EX40 in the USA. He said that he believes that they are not selling well so Volvo have decided to skip 2025 and maybe retire the product in the US. I clarified that we are not talking about the EC30, and he said, no, definitely talking about the former C40/XC40 line that has been for sale for a few years.

I explained that there is a 2025 EX40 in White Plains NEW York and he said that it's probably a Federalized Canadian car that was ordered and the deal fell through. Wow.

This can't be accurate - but the misinformation from corporate to dealerships, and from dealerships to customers is astounding. Don't want to be a part of that game. This doesn't even touch on the traditional dealership game that I've endured where sales staff tries to route you in a base model with Fargo-style sales tactics, such as "Ultimate and Plus are the same car - no difference. Just marketing"

I'm currently driving a long term Enterprise rental because my lease expired on my previous car 3 weeks ago. Time to move on from this train wreck of a company.

What is going on?
 
#30 ·
Volvo did screw the pooch big time though I haven't heard they are canceling the 40 series even for this year, as Matt said, last year the 40 BEVs were super late. They killed their own sales of the 40 series with the promise of the EX30. Most people in the market simply put a deposit down on the EX30. Then the tariffs (outside Volvo's control, but it seems they weren't expecting it) killed the EX30 for short term and most EX30 deposits either had us find a used 40 BEV or went to another brand. So yeah, it was disastrous. I frankly would trust a group of people from this forum over most of Volvo management.

C40s are a nightmare for dealerships. Not a desirable product at all for the public even though I would want it more than the XC40 (sportier looking and no opening sunroof), but those are the same reasons most people don't like em. Volvo would have done far better with the P*2 as a more dramatic difference... and P* as it's own brand still represents a new kind of specialness. I seriously think Volvo hires college kids and gives them trophies for accepting the job and then treats all their ideas like they were sprinkled with dust from the good idea fairy.
 
#27 ·
I still haven't seen an order guide, pricing, or product guide for 2025 EX40/EC30. We usually see all of those before allocations start. In the product guide for the XC40, there is one mention of the EX/C models:
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I haven't heard anything stating when or if they will come out. I expect it to be similar to the 2024 model year where we got the order guide in (I think) November or December. And a fairly limited production run hitting stores.

We have seen two EX40s come through for fleet company orders (and one more on the way.) So, they are being made and there are US spec versions. But, who knows if any will be made for the public and/or allocated to the dealer networks. My guess is that the White Plains one was ordinally a fleet order that was cancelled.
 
#28 ·
I still haven't seen an order guide, pricing, or product guide for 2025 EX40/EC30. We usually see all of those before allocations start. In the product guide for the XC40, there is one mention of the EX/C models:
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I haven't heard anything stating when or if they will come out. I expect it to be similar to the 2024 model year where we got the order guide in (I think) November or December. And a fairly limited production run hitting stores.

We have seen two EX40s come through for fleet company orders (and one more on the way.) So, they are being made and there are US spec versions. But, who knows if any will be made for the public and/or allocated to the dealer networks. My guess is that the White Plains one was ordinally a fleet order that was cancelled.
So strange. I see C40/XC40 everywhere. Proable 20 a day while routine driving around the city. I don't know why these are being labelled as "limited if any" in the future by all sources. Didn't seem like a failure of a product. Thanks for the followup!
 
#32 ·
The XC40 Recharge (now EX40) was doing pretty well for us until last winter, where we saw less take up of BEVs (but PHEV take-up is pretty steady). That car is more practical than the Polestar 2 and the C40 (now EC40).

The Polestar 2s have been selling at fire sale prices so some people who would buy an EX40 actually went for Polestar 2. The EC40 is a hard sell to a loyalty buyer because one of the many things Volvo buyers are used to is better than average visibility. OK - with the cameras and everything it helps, but the view out the back in a C40 is not much better than a Camaro! Some of our competitors would have less problem selling a coupe styled SUV but our buyers are different and looking at vehicles differently.

It will be interesting to see how the general public likes the Polestar 4. The critics like it but critical acclaim doesn't necessarily equate to sales success.
 
#35 ·
The camera is better than I expected it to be, but I wouldn't pay $1000 for it personally. I wouldn't take it as a free option either, but we all know how I feel about tech. I don't need to see out the back window all that much/ever. Side mirrors work just fine. But for slower traffic, I could imagine folks not paying attention and missing that there is a 2012 S60 T6 with P* behind them trying to get somewhere.
 
#40 ·
After 15 months on order (w/ cash reserve pdx-in), we expect EX40 Ultra delivery by 12/31. It's been of great interest to follow this Swede Forum. I'll send info when I've actual data. I like this website because it seems to be fact rather than speculation for the most part. Recall the advice of the character created by AC Doyle: "It's a capital mistake to speculate; when one speculates one begins to skew fact to suit theory rather than theory to suit fact." best regards to all. Pete in Portland
 
#43 ·
My current search in VISTA shows none for any of them. I suspect the few out there were fleet deals that feel through.

Interestingly.... for 2026, the XC40 does show up, but no longer has the EV option under motors. I don't know if this is any sort of indicator, or if it simply means they finally sorted the EX40 vs XC40 in VISTA. (Currently they only show XC40, S90, and V60CC, so it's not an indicator of models not being made, just an observation on a change to what I can search for on 2026.) Also, just to clarify, the 2026 search option doesn't mean those are already being made, just they're in the VISTA system as a selectable search.
 
#46 ·
In Canada we don't see that in Vista yet. But I agree, they've messed up Vista in that the EX40s show up under XC40. I know most dealers in Canada also won't carry the EC40. I've personally found up here that customers who would look at the C40 would end up with a Polestar 2 because the terms were more attractive. True, but sustainable? Absolutely not.

The XC40 Recharge/EX40 sells fine here though in AWD form.
 
#47 ·
The Polestar 2 suspension is so notoriously rough, and the FSD (frequency selective dampening) suspension on the C40 is so good, it surprises me that anyone would choose the PS2. There are countless pages on reddit complaining about the PS2 ride quality. I had one as a loaner and it was a bad week of driving.

Maybe that PS2 ride quality issue is only realized after a few days of ownership - and when you're test driving, the number$ are paramount at the moment.