So one can connect an iPod, ... to it.
Thank you.
Thank you.
AudiPutz
Re: Does the XC90's stereo have an auxiliary input? (AudiPutz)
Check out this topic: http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=6458.
The short answer is "no", though.
Check out this topic: http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=6458.
The short answer is "no", though.
Re: Does the XC90's stereo have an auxiliary input? (Audioguy)
Coming from a Saab without an aux input or a cassette adapter, and having tried an FM transmitter gizmo with horrible results, this is a major bummer! Of course I still want the car but I have about 3000 songs (and a few books) on my 20GB iPod and they are basically every song I'd ever want to listen.
Somewhere I have read about a more robust transmitter solution, costs about a 100$, if I can find the info I'll post a link
Coming from a Saab without an aux input or a cassette adapter, and having tried an FM transmitter gizmo with horrible results, this is a major bummer! Of course I still want the car but I have about 3000 songs (and a few books) on my 20GB iPod and they are basically every song I'd ever want to listen.
Somewhere I have read about a more robust transmitter solution, costs about a 100$, if I can find the info I'll post a link
Re: Does the XC90's stereo have an auxiliary input? (hacky)
Is this what you're looking for?
http://www.devdepot.com/description.html?pcode=ANLTRANS
jvincent
Is this what you're looking for?
http://www.devdepot.com/description.html?pcode=ANLTRANS
jvincent
Re: Does the XC90's stereo have an auxiliary input? (jvincent)
Or this one:
http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/itrip/index.html
I for one will get this for my iPod and the not-ordered-yet XC90. Local dealer
will not accept order until this coming June.
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mackeymouse
Or this one:
http://www.griffintechnology.com/products/itrip/index.html
I for one will get this for my iPod and the not-ordered-yet XC90. Local dealer
will not accept order until this coming June.
http://********************/smile/emsad.gif
mackeymouse
Re: Does the XC90's stereo have an auxiliary input? (mackeymouse)
I'd really like to hear one of these FM transmitter units in person. Based on pure hearsay on VWVortex, "they" say the FM quality is poor. Some have used the six-disc changer cable to plug into the cars factory stereo. I was planning on trying something similar but there are no adapters for the Volvo cd changer like those for VW and other makes.
Here's my post in the audio forum: link
I'd really like to hear one of these FM transmitter units in person. Based on pure hearsay on VWVortex, "they" say the FM quality is poor. Some have used the six-disc changer cable to plug into the cars factory stereo. I was planning on trying something similar but there are no adapters for the Volvo cd changer like those for VW and other makes.
Here's my post in the audio forum: link
Re: Does the XC90's stereo have an auxiliary input? (83caddy16v)
I can tell you from personal experience that the sound quality is poor with an FM transmitter. I tried two different ones from two different companies, they both sucked. So poor that I never take along my iPod in my car and will not do so in my XC90, when it arrives someday. I am curious about this VW solution as even the cassette adaptors do not work very well (have one of those too).
I can tell you from personal experience that the sound quality is poor with an FM transmitter. I tried two different ones from two different companies, they both sucked. So poor that I never take along my iPod in my car and will not do so in my XC90, when it arrives someday. I am curious about this VW solution as even the cassette adaptors do not work very well (have one of those too).
Re: Does the XC90's stereo have an auxiliary input? (hacky)
Neither the FM transmitter nor the cassette adapter will work in the XC90.
The XC90 audio system does not have any antenna input to connect the FM transmitter to. This is because it has a so called ATM (Antenna Tuner Module), i.e. the tuners (AM/FM, GPS etc) and their respective antennas are integrated into one unit that is mounted in the rear part of the roof (under that black plastic cover that looks like a second sunroof). The only connection from the ATM to the outside world is the power supply and the digital optical bus that runs the entire Infotainment system in the car.
There is no cassette player available for the XC90 but you can choose to add a MiniDisc player to the system.
So if you need to play your own recordings you need to burn them on a CD (uncompressed) or put them on a MiniDisc in case you have opted for the MD player.
Neither the FM transmitter nor the cassette adapter will work in the XC90.
The XC90 audio system does not have any antenna input to connect the FM transmitter to. This is because it has a so called ATM (Antenna Tuner Module), i.e. the tuners (AM/FM, GPS etc) and their respective antennas are integrated into one unit that is mounted in the rear part of the roof (under that black plastic cover that looks like a second sunroof). The only connection from the ATM to the outside world is the power supply and the digital optical bus that runs the entire Infotainment system in the car.
There is no cassette player available for the XC90 but you can choose to add a MiniDisc player to the system.
So if you need to play your own recordings you need to burn them on a CD (uncompressed) or put them on a MiniDisc in case you have opted for the MD player.
Re: Does the XC90's stereo have an auxiliary input? (GrecianVolvo)
I've been lurking here for awhile and finally decided to register.
When you say the CD player won't read MP3s in the US, does that mean the European models can play MP3s?
I have burned 5 CDs so far for my XC90. The player can read disc text, so if you have software and a burner that are capable, the display will show the name of the CD and the title of each song. I'm using Nero, an HP 9100 writer, and 80 minute CD-Rs.
I have the changer set to play all discs at random. So far it hasn't had any trouble reading the home-made disks.
I've been lurking here for awhile and finally decided to register.
When you say the CD player won't read MP3s in the US, does that mean the European models can play MP3s?
I have burned 5 CDs so far for my XC90. The player can read disc text, so if you have software and a burner that are capable, the display will show the name of the CD and the title of each song. I'm using Nero, an HP 9100 writer, and 80 minute CD-Rs.
I have the changer set to play all discs at random. So far it hasn't had any trouble reading the home-made disks.
Re: Does the XC90's stereo have an auxiliary input? (Sharon)
Not to beat a dead horse, so to speak, but the lack of an audio input and the lack of MP3 decoding is a huge problem. Makes me wish I just ordered the standard stereo system and spent some money to see if one of the local high end car audio/video shops could install something better. DPLII etc... not withstanding, this is basically antiquated equipment as far as I am concerned. You can already buy 20GB hard drives for cars that basically store every song you'd ever want to hear. Or you can just plug in your iPod (Rio etc...).
I can understand a car manufacturer not having the latest and greatest audio equipment but it is a stretch to consider MP3 decoding and/or a digital or analog input for accessory equipment to be "state of the art". Disappointing if the the lack of MP3 decoding is true. I doubt that they did, but these oversights are so glaring that it almost seems as if Volvo purposely hindered the audio system .
[Modified by hacky, 6:22 PM 1-12-2003]
[Modified by hacky, 6:23 PM 1-12-2003]
Not to beat a dead horse, so to speak, but the lack of an audio input and the lack of MP3 decoding is a huge problem. Makes me wish I just ordered the standard stereo system and spent some money to see if one of the local high end car audio/video shops could install something better. DPLII etc... not withstanding, this is basically antiquated equipment as far as I am concerned. You can already buy 20GB hard drives for cars that basically store every song you'd ever want to hear. Or you can just plug in your iPod (Rio etc...).
I can understand a car manufacturer not having the latest and greatest audio equipment but it is a stretch to consider MP3 decoding and/or a digital or analog input for accessory equipment to be "state of the art". Disappointing if the the lack of MP3 decoding is true. I doubt that they did, but these oversights are so glaring that it almost seems as if Volvo purposely hindered the audio system .
[Modified by hacky, 6:22 PM 1-12-2003]
[Modified by hacky, 6:23 PM 1-12-2003]
Re: Does the XC90's stereo have an auxiliary input? (Sharon)
there is a big difference. when you make a cd that is 80 minutes of music, 10-20 songs, all your Mp3s are converted into CD audio tracks limited to mp3 quality). The Mp3's are recorded AS if the CD was a real audio CD.
In General, Home made audio Cd's should work in almost any cd player.
however, REAL Mp3 disks are the ones where you can burn 650-700 Megabyes of MP3 music, which amounts to 100+ songs and 300+ minutes of music on ONE disk. These are REAL Mp3 disks that they are probably referring to about the volvo cd system not playing them.
I think the biggest reason why volvo doesnt want to integrate it is compatability issues that might come up.
well i am wondering exactly what you mean by that.. are you burning the CD's as MP3 disks, where you can fit over 100 songs per disc? or are you taking the mp3's and making a normal 80 minute Cd with about 10-20 songs.
there is a big difference. when you make a cd that is 80 minutes of music, 10-20 songs, all your Mp3s are converted into CD audio tracks limited to mp3 quality). The Mp3's are recorded AS if the CD was a real audio CD.
In General, Home made audio Cd's should work in almost any cd player.
however, REAL Mp3 disks are the ones where you can burn 650-700 Megabyes of MP3 music, which amounts to 100+ songs and 300+ minutes of music on ONE disk. These are REAL Mp3 disks that they are probably referring to about the volvo cd system not playing them.
I think the biggest reason why volvo doesnt want to integrate it is compatability issues that might come up.
Re: Does the XC90's stereo have an auxiliary input? (GShyneDM)
The CD player doesn't read MP3s; I'm converting them. I was pointing out that if you have both software and a burner that are capable of doing disc text, the player will be able to display the information. Using Nero to convert my MP3s and my HP 9100 to burn the disk, I was able to get the disc text to work. Using Windows Media Player 9 to convert MP3s, I was not able to get disc text displayed.
Re: Does the XC90's stereo have an auxiliary input? (hacky)
The XC90 is a first step in this direction since it is modularised and in many aspects software upgradeable. When the development of the XC90 started in early 1999 MP3 had not yet reached the widespread use it has today so this feature was not regarded as important as many other functions that are available in the XC90. But thanks to the architecture of the system a customer can decide to upgrade to an MP3-compatible CD-player when it becomes availble without having to exchange the entire audio system, or a complete radio like in many other cars today.
In comparison, all other cars that have a similar distributed audio system like the XC90 (Saab 9-3, BMW 7-series, Mercedes E-class, Audi A8...) also lack an AUX input and the ability to play MP3 which shows that they too stood before similar design decisions during the early project phase when all content is decided.
The XC90 audio system does not decode MP3, MP3Pro, WMA, OGG, AAC or any other compressed audio format (with the obvious exception of MiniDisc in the MD player). As is mentioned in another place in this topic it is not an easy task to design a system that is compatible with every concievable format or even the most used ones when they emerge and update so fast as they do in this field. The leadtime to develop an OEM audio system is far longer than the cycle time of systems and formats in home electronics. This means that the OEM designer needs to design in flexibility and upgradeability to be able to at least try to keep up with the ever changing times.
The XC90 is a first step in this direction since it is modularised and in many aspects software upgradeable. When the development of the XC90 started in early 1999 MP3 had not yet reached the widespread use it has today so this feature was not regarded as important as many other functions that are available in the XC90. But thanks to the architecture of the system a customer can decide to upgrade to an MP3-compatible CD-player when it becomes availble without having to exchange the entire audio system, or a complete radio like in many other cars today.
In comparison, all other cars that have a similar distributed audio system like the XC90 (Saab 9-3, BMW 7-series, Mercedes E-class, Audi A8...) also lack an AUX input and the ability to play MP3 which shows that they too stood before similar design decisions during the early project phase when all content is decided.
Re: Does the XC90's stereo have an auxiliary input? (Sharon)
i thought you were confusing the difference between Home made CDs from Mp3s and MP3 Cds and their actual playability in the CD system http://********************/smile/emsmilep.gif
oh and Welcome to the Forum BTW... http://********************/smile/embeer.gif
oh... by your previous post i thought you were questioning the actual MP3 CD playability on US models, because yours had played just fine.
i thought you were confusing the difference between Home made CDs from Mp3s and MP3 Cds and their actual playability in the CD system http://********************/smile/emsmilep.gif
oh and Welcome to the Forum BTW... http://********************/smile/embeer.gif
Re: Does the XC90's stereo have an auxiliary input? (GShyneDM)
Tonight I tried an MP3 in the player, just for kicks. No go. It said "disk error" on the display. Oh well, it would have been nice to have the ability to play MP3s, but I'm so tickled to have an in-dash changer that I'm not focusing on the MP3 thing. My ML320 had the changer in the back. To access it, I had to move the third-row seat out of the way, unscrew the access panel, unscrew the changer to swing it out and then slide a little door to access the changer magazine. It was such a pain that I changed disks only a few times in 3 years.
Thanks for the welcome!
Sorry if I was confusing. The first part of my post I was asking, I think it was Yannis, what he meant by the system doesn't read MP3s in the US. I was wondering if that meant there was a possibility that European models would have that capability.
Tonight I tried an MP3 in the player, just for kicks. No go. It said "disk error" on the display. Oh well, it would have been nice to have the ability to play MP3s, but I'm so tickled to have an in-dash changer that I'm not focusing on the MP3 thing. My ML320 had the changer in the back. To access it, I had to move the third-row seat out of the way, unscrew the access panel, unscrew the changer to swing it out and then slide a little door to access the changer magazine. It was such a pain that I changed disks only a few times in 3 years.
Thanks for the welcome!
Re: Does the XC90's stereo have an auxiliary input? (Sharon)
I am not sure about European Volvos but I have not (ever) been successful in having an MP3 played on a stereo here in the U.S. Perhaps I have been doing something wrong, along the way.
Yannis
Sharon,
I am not sure about European Volvos but I have not (ever) been successful in having an MP3 played on a stereo here in the U.S. Perhaps I have been doing something wrong, along the way.
Yannis
Re: Does the XC90's stereo have an auxiliary input? (GShyneDM)
The did screw this up. An auxillary input would cost next to nothing, regardless of what the other car manufacturers are doing, and even $60 - never mind thousand dollar ones - portable CD players can now decode mp3s. Of course this does not negate the fact that this is the car for me but this is a major, needless annoyance.
The did screw this up. An auxillary input would cost next to nothing, regardless of what the other car manufacturers are doing, and even $60 - never mind thousand dollar ones - portable CD players can now decode mp3s. Of course this does not negate the fact that this is the car for me but this is a major, needless annoyance.
Re: Does the XC90's stereo have an auxiliary input? (hacky)
since it barely came out.. im sure the years to come will have improvements.
just like my sc900 stereo does not have pro logic for the tuner... they added it in the sc901 in the later models. 1998 was the debut year... expect changes in later years when thigns are realized. i sure wouldnt mind a lot of thigns addressed that are so obvious now in my c70.. but hey.. its what happens.
oh and nothing against you.. but to a person that doesnt use mp3s or an auxilary imput, it isnt even an annoyance at all, you just happen to be one of the crowd that uses it. http://********************/smile/emsmilep.gif
just like with any car.. there are things that could be improved...
since it barely came out.. im sure the years to come will have improvements.
just like my sc900 stereo does not have pro logic for the tuner... they added it in the sc901 in the later models. 1998 was the debut year... expect changes in later years when thigns are realized. i sure wouldnt mind a lot of thigns addressed that are so obvious now in my c70.. but hey.. its what happens.
oh and nothing against you.. but to a person that doesnt use mp3s or an auxilary imput, it isnt even an annoyance at all, you just happen to be one of the crowd that uses it. http://********************/smile/emsmilep.gif
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