Was it cold? Were the tires warmed up? Tread life okay? I bet those loaners take a beating. Perhaps these particular tires were not in optimal shape?

 

Ride quality of the P-Zero is better than the Pilot Sport….also much cheaper. The DWS…not sure…those are priced similar and a generally well rated tire.


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Ride quality of the P-Zero is better than the Pilot Sport….also much cheaper.

Agreed. When I upgraded my tires on my 2019 S60 to Goodyear Eagle Exhilarate tires, I put my OEM P-Zero tires on the wife's 2016 s60. She had Michelins on before. The ride with the P-Zero tires improved greatly and much quieter.

Since the OP mentioned on ramps...I recently had my S60 lowered and with the Goodyear Eagles and the P* tune I LOVE on ramps even more now. The grip is amazing.

 

I have Continentals on our 2019 S60 and Pirellis on the V90. Both tires seem fine. I expect to get between 30 and 40K miles out of the Pirellis on the V90 (which is consistent with what I got on my 03 S80 T6 and 08 S80 3.2). It is too early to tell on the S60 with only 4K miles on the odometer.

 

Yes they break loose quick. Replaced mine with Michelin AS4's

 

I think the primary complaint with the Pzero AS is the terrible tread life, the performance is adequate.

 

The P-zero is pretty good. Comparing to the sticky S007A Bridgestone "max performance" summers I run, the grip and feel is right there with both until the limit which is of course lower on the AS tire. I only run the OE wheels/tires in Winter so trade life is great at only about 7500 miles on them so far ;-) Perhaps Volvo just wanted to avoid carrying summer tire option but they gotta compete in the mag reviews so they chose a pretty sport AS tire.

 

Any and all tires are a balance of trade-offs for performance (dry, wet, snow, ice), comfort (noise, ride quality), lifespan (wear and noise), and price. Any all-season will be a very broad set of compromises. You must define what is important to you to find the right balance that meats your needs.
Me personally, I am willing to trade off some cornering performance for ride quality and noise improvements. This generally leads me to Grand Touring tires…but the P-Zero AS is a UHP AS….those two categories have overlap.
I had the older Michelin Pilot Sport AS+ on a previous car. They cornered amazing, were awesome on dry and wet pavement, but were lacking through winter, rode very harsh and were noisier than other tires. They also only last about 22k miles. The newer generations of that tire have fixed a few of those issues…bit I still personally stay away from them due to not needing/wanting the rest of the trade-offs.


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Any and all tires are a balance of trade-offs for performance (dry, wet, snow, ice), comfort (noise, ride quality), lifespan (wear and noise), and price. Any all-season will be a very broad set of compromises. You must define what is important to you to find the right balance that meats your needs.
Me personally, I am willing to trade off some cornering performance for ride quality and noise improvements. This generally leads me to Grand Touring tires…but the P-Zero AS is a UHP AS….those two categories have overlap.
I had the older Michelin Pilot Sport AS+ on a previous car. They cornered amazing, were awesome on dry and wet pavement, but were lacking through winter, rode very harsh and were noisier than other tires. They also only last about 22k miles. The newer generations of that tire have fixed a few of those issues…bit I still personally stay away from them due to not needing/wanting the rest of the trade-offs.

Well, different car, I know, but on my S90 I got rid of the Pirelli's it came with rather quickly. When the first winter came around I put a set of Continental Vikingcontact 7's, in a slightly narrower size on the stock 18" rims th ecar came with. When the following spring came around, I bought a set of factory 20" takeoffs from another Volvo, and put a set of Continental ExtremeContact DWS06's on them as I had really good luck with those tires on my previous car. (Amazing traction both wet and dry). Since I use dedicated winters I didn't have to worry about their winter performance.

In the past I used their DW as summers, but I don't feel I really need dedicated summer only tires anymore. I don't tend to drive that aggressively anymore. I've outgrown that phase of my life. Instead using the all season DWS06's gives me a little more flexibility in the fall and spring tire changeover season.

Over the years I've used lots of different tires as my summer tires. Pirelli P-Zero Nero's, Goodyear Eagle F1's, Kumho Ecsta's the aforementioned Continental Extremecontact DW's and many others I can't remember anymore. I don't remember any of them losing grip as fast as the stock tires on the S60 did.

My perspective on tires is that the most important thing when it comes to tires is grip. It's literally where the rubber meets the road, and can save your life. Everything else (comfort, wear, noise, price, etc.) is secondary.

 

I have the P Zero tires and around 15000 miles, I stared hearing thumping noise. Otherwise they are fine for my application and driving.

 

I'm closer to *********** on the Pirellis, from my experience with many sticky tires and some higher perf all seasons, the tire is pretty impressive. The main thing I note is they grip right up until they don't, so under the limits they feel like a summer tire, just give up earlier. You don't always get that in an all-season perf tire. Just for comparison, I drove the GTI when looking for the new car in 2019, the all-seasons on that (no idea which tires) almost ruin the driving experience, just having fun on a cloverleaf you are managing the lack of grip long before you are going "fast". But you know opinions, they're like...something...I can't remember what that term was...

I think there is only one Pirelli, though some of the 2019 S60 press cars and maybe others seemed to have a Continental all season and still other press cars had a Michelin. Some here have said they have the "Pirelli PZero All Season Plus" but my car had the non-Plus version, no idea of the difference there maybe it's significant.

 

None should be the plus version. We “should” have the Vol versions. The plus is usually the non-OE spec one. I at least know my ‘20 V60 has “VOL” on the sidewall which should be the Volvo spec version. No idea what makes it special. But as stated, they could have done all kinds of different things at different times with which specific tire was put in cars.


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The dealer I bought my 2019 CPO S60 T6 from put some new tires on it for sale with only 12k miles (another nod to Michael at Steingold for making the experience terrific). It has Pirelli Cinturato P7 all seasons, which I have found so far to be not half bad. Good dry traction and wet weather ability. So far the limits seem to be fairly progressive. Tires that hold until they don't are scary. I doubt I'll replace them with the same thing, but impressed so far. What's funny is I had them as original equipment on a GTI I bought back in the late 80s. Obviously the tread design has morphed from what it was then, but that's a long time for a model to stay relevant! Don't know whether these were an OEM tire on some S60s.

 

This week is the first time I have had a car lose traction on all four tires in a very long time other than in the snow. I took an entrance ramp to the highway a tad fast, just after the car wash, and was completely caught off guard on the slide. I felt the front end push a tad, then the rear end broke loose. Overall, recovery was very smooth and very controlled.....damn I am a good driver....or maybe the stability control is really that good.....no...it was me. It was pretty cool how the seat belts tighten up and snug you down into your seat though.

Was it the OE Pirelli's? Were the tires still wet from the car wash? Was I just going faster than I thought? I really have no idea, it is only a V60 T5, but speed sneaks up on these with the low end torque. I wish I had actually been paying attention to how fast I really was going.....oh well. I still have no complaints about the OE Pirelli's and I learned to not enter that ramp without being aware of my speed.