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740 vs 240

15K views 7 replies 6 participants last post by  danemodsandy  
#1 ·
Hi Brickies,

As some of you may have figured out by my posts, I've been shopping for an 89-93 245.

I've not had much luck, but I *DO* find quite a few 740 wagons from that era.

I've liked everything I've read about the 240 -- the "classic volvo" and easy to work on, etc.

Would I be making a huge mistake to get a 740 instead if I found one and the price was right? Why should I NOT get a 740? What sort of nightmares am I to expect if I do?

Murph
 
#2 ·
Re: 740 vs 240 (Peoria Murph)

Either model is fine - just be patient for the perfect car.

The 240 had some great years - mostly '88-93 but a perfect older model is a go also.

A bit more room in the 740/940 and a few model years could be had with a turbo. The early 240 turbos are keepers/collectors but not easy to find for sale in good shape.

Click around to the location of choice on this...

http://geo.craigslist.org/iso/us/il

...and search "volvo" (for sale).

Not much in Peoria.

Here is an older Swedespeed ad - may be still available...

http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=75493

George Dill
 
#3 ·
Re: 740 vs 240 (gdill2)

Hey George -- Believe me -- Craig and his list have become my newest obsession. I've found three or four that I thought were perfect, but either they were sold, or the seller wasn't interested in waiting for me to fly out and drive it home.

Somewhere, someday....

About the two types ... is the 240/740 preference more like the Beetle/Super Beetle debate in that they're still the same great car but some people have religious preferences to one or the other?

Murph
 
#4 ·
Re: 740 vs 240 (Peoria Murph)

I ran an '86 240 wagon for 240k+ with no problems and it is still rolling in Houston, Texas.

The B230F engine is identical to that in the 740/940 with different fuel and cooling systems.

If possible, avoid buyng a car that needs repair of any kind.

George Dill
 
#5 ·
Re: 740 vs 240 (Peoria Murph)

The 740's ride better, quieter, have more room and usually have more gadgets. Mechanically, the drivelines are essentially identical so you get equivalent levels of reliability and durability. As George mentioned, the 740T is more common than it's 240T forebearer, and that makes for a fun daily driver.
 
#7 ·
240s for me please. While the 240 turbo might not be as common as the 740 turbo variety. A lot more of the 240 turbos are manual transmission equipped. It's quite hard to find a manual trans 740 turbo never mind being a wagon, too. A manual trans 740 turbo wagon is my favorite of that model car but I like 240 series too much to jump ship into a 700/900 series. I don't like their driving feel as much as I like the feel of the 240 series.
 
#8 ·
Re: 740 vs 240 (Peoria Murph)

Hi:

As has been pointed out already, the two cars share most of their major mechanicals, so they're about even in that regard.

To me, the 740 is a much more Americanised car than the 240, as it was designed to be. Its ride is softer, its appointments less quirky. The 240 is taller, boxier, and to me at least, feels roomier inside.

Where both cars have a problem is in their interiors, with the 740 being somewhat worse than the 240. Both cars like to shed and break interior plastic. On the 240, the problems are mainly confined to the door pockets, the centre console, and the glove box door. All of these are easy fixes- you just find new pieces and replace them, which takes nothing more than a screwdriver.

The 740 is a bit trickier. The door pockets and seat-side pockets love to break, and finding good ones can be harder than finding 240 pieces. The inner tailgate trim panel on wagons likes to break its mounts, causing a rattly tailgate. IPD carries a repair kit that will fix this problem. And just about any 740 you find will need a new headliner; Volvo used a bonded-foam headliner for the first time in this car.

Replacing a 740 headliner is somewhat tricky. To begin with, Volvo used a 1/8-inch thick fabric, instead of the 1/4-inch thickness used by damn near every other carmaker. You MUST use the correct 1/8-inch thickness to get a proper result, particularly if you have a sunroof. If you use 1/4-inch material, the sunroof will bind in its tracks and not operate properly. The board to which the fabric is glued is somewhat fragile, and requires care in handling. This is no problem on wagons (just pull the board out through the tailgate), but it's a real problem on sedans, where you have to coax the board out the front door opening. Boards can be repaired; IPD has instructions on its Website. It's going to cost you real money to fix a 740 headliner; materials alone for a wagon are over $100 at IPD.

On both cars, the driver's seat is usually in pretty bad shape- after all, these are cars that are fifteen and twenty years old, or more. There's a secret to fixing them- the same upholstery is used on both driver's and passenger's seats. Since it's absolutely interchangeable, you can usually find a junkyard car with a good passenger seat to use as a donor. On my 240, I was quoted $300 to re-upholster my driver's seat. I found a donor passenger seat skin on eBay for $10, and mounted it myself. That $10 was for vinyl; expect to pay much more for a good leather skin.

Engine compartment wiring can be a problem on both; the problem was fixed by the late 1980s. It's not uncommon for an early 1980s 240 to need a whole new wiring harness, due to "biodegradable" insulation on the original wiring.

One last thought- the later the year model, the better the air-conditioning on either car. It took Volvo a little while to understand how extreme heat could get in America, as opposed to Europe; some early 1980s cars don't cool down well in very hot weather. Volvo addressed the owner complaints by the late 1980s, and later cars are pretty much as good as anything out there.

Modified by danemodsandy at 11:06 AM 6-13-2007