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3 Season/summer tires for v90cc?

3.6K views 23 replies 10 participants last post by  Kalle J  
#1 · (Edited)
need some advice on 3 season/summer tires...have a 2018 v90cc Ocean Race w/ Polestar and switched to snow tires (vredestein wintrac pro in 245/45/R20 on VOR OEM rims) for November thru March season...bought another set of VOR OEM rims and plan to mount tires for the March/April thru September/November season (3 seasons)...this is the first time i've ever run winter tires - so i am new to buying summer and/or 3 seasons tires for a car like this...

i was/am quite surpised that there's limited real world testing and/or tires made for 3 seasons...plenty of all-season varieties and have run ultra-high-performance all seasons on this car...there's definitely some summer tires, too - but many seem to be for sportier cars and/or driving...I've even searched looking at what people drive in southern/warm climates that do not have snow...i have no plans to drive these tires in snow, but do need the tires to support temperature ranges down to 40 degrees...and yes - have hit all the major tire sites for reviews/advice and have read countless articles in the US, europe, australia, etc.

it's a v90cc, so i will be driving it a combination of highway and city driving - in dry and wet conditions...since i'm in upstate NY, the roads are rough at times - with various potholes, undulations, etc. associated with asphalt that gets treated to withstand freezing temps and salt treatment...handling is important to me, as is ride...the v90cc can handle "bloated" at times, so don't want anything that will exasperate this tendency...i also would want a tire to get 30k or so of miles minimum - so i can get (2) 3 seasons on them...

i've had the OEM Pirelli Scorpion All-Season and just thought them ok...and am usually suspect of automakers and their OEM tire choice due to what THEY are trying to achieve and/or their need to broadly satisfy driver needs and climates...

all said - am i crazy to run summer tires on this car?...do people in warm climates buy summer tires or do they just go the all-season route and don't worry about the compromise associated with all-season?...or do people select all-season tires with poor snow traction in the hopes that this might translate to better performance?...

most tire advice is broad on this and other forums...so not looking for general recommendations on what you use...but rather have you dealt with the same situation i've proposed?...

for example, i've looked at the Firestone Firehawk Indy 500 summer tires and it's counterparts in the summer category...in the high performance all-season category, there are plenty - but not sure how to narrow down my search when my use will only be 3 seasons...

thanks for reading and/or advice and/or recommendations...R
 
#2 ·
I'd look at Tire Rack and see what they have for ideas. Some off the UHP all seasons (Michelin Pilot AS3/4, Continental DWS06) might be a great option because they are really compromise tires for snow, but typically excellent handling in dry and wet, tread life is around 30k. These are all season performance tires in that they are good enough in light snow. In the northeast, it's easy to pair these with a good true winter set. I know a true summer and winter set will perform better, but the changeover temperature window gets tight sometimes when you go from a September or October overnight low of 40 to a fast freeze and mornings in the 20s... True summer tires aren't a good option there, but UHP all seasons give you some window.
 
#3 ·
I wouldn't be getting summer tires for a car like this (especially in upstate NY) but a good all-season tire for your three season use. The ones noted above are very good. I like the General RT43 too.
 
#4 ·
I have Firestone Indy 500 summers on my CC, 275/40 on 19x9 ET45. And then dedicated winters, Vredestein Win trac 18" . I do use Michelin Cross Climates I believe they are on my partner's 2018 Rav4, they are pretty good. But, the Volvo handles way better than Rav4 and I don't think a summer sport tire would help it at all. ust so you know the Indy 500 is not an XL load rated tire.
 
#9 · (Edited)
A summer tire is lost on a car like this (FWIW, this is my personal opinion but one that is based on the realities of the chassis that we're discussing here). And where you are especially, your roads suck. I've been up there on my UHP A/S tires, so I know. I even bent a couple (three actually) wheels up there.

If you want an UHP A/S, get an ExtremeContact DWS, Pilot A/S 4, RE980 AS+ and call it a day. Otherwise, the CrossClimate 2 is more in line with what I'd honestly get (for that car). Of course this is my opinion, again, so if you want a summer tire and wheel package to complement your full winters then sure, go for it. Just be prepared for the bumpy ride and the loud tire growl that you'll get due to these aggressive contact patches, tread designs, and low sidewall flex.
 
#10 ·
so it appears that very few have summer tires on a car like the v90cc...since all-season tires have built-in compromise - is there a recommendation on a ultra high performance (UHP) tire that is closer to a summer tire in terms of performance, handling, comfort?...i've read all the reviews of tirerack and many other sites - and its hard to discern which UHP all-season is best for limited-to-no snow...
 
#12 ·
is there a recommendation on a ultra high performance (UHP) tire that is closer to a summer tire in terms of performance, handling, comfort?

If you want an UHP A/S, get an ExtremeContact DWS, Pilot A/S 4, RE980 AS+ and call it a day.
What's hilarious about this is that I didn't even actually look at that chart above when I said those three specific UHP A/S tires.
 
#11 ·
hackR you are definitely correct. I love the Cross Climates on my Rav4, I just wanted a wider, lighter better looking wheel and the look of a wider tire on my V90CC. I see some people on here have gone with an offroad tire, I like that as well but I NEVER take my V90CC down any gnarly dirt roads. I bought that height of the CC over the V90 for its excellence in snow. I had three XC70 before my V90......I wish they made the XC70, T6 with the 3.0, PA and ACC, all the safety stuff. I loved those cars! Realistically a UHP would be your best bet.......maybe in 19" with a lighter wheel?
 
#14 ·
do car owners in warm climates (w/o snow), simply neglect the snow ratings and go with the best of the other category ratings?
Effectively, yes. For UHP all seasons, it's really about the Michelin Pilot AS4 vs Continental DWS06. The Michelin test better in dry and wet, but the Continental's have longer tread life. That's really it. Most other options aren't as good.
 
#19 · (Edited)
Why would you buy all seasons if you already have a set of winter wheels?? :unsure:
Why give up on performance and safety 6-8 months of the year?
No one does that in Sweden. We would have Winter 3PMS (sometimes studded) and a real summer tire.

Conti DWS06 is something Germans would buy as a winter tyre. Cant find a aquaplaning test for that tire. Thats what would worry me the most.

Have a look at this.

Some (lazy)folk run cheaper winter tyres all year (low milage), not really recommended though.
 
#20 ·
Why would you buy all seasons if you already have a set of winter wheels?? :unsure:
Why give up on performance 6-8 months of the year?
No one does that in Sweden. We would have Winter 3PMS (sometimes studded) and a real summer tire.

Some (lazy)folk run cheaper winter tyres all year, not really reconmmended though.
+1
I run Nokians winter
I just bought advan sport v105 for summer

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#21 ·
I've lived in Stockholm and Oslo where studded winter tires were a must, especially when traveling north. If I lived in Malmö or Stavanger and had a local use only car I would go with good all seasons like Michelin Cross Climates. On the other hand, from what I recall, even if the roads are dry you are at fault in an accident during the winter in Sweden if you do not have studded winter tires. Is that correct?

In any event, very few places in the USA really require winter tires.