I’m looking forward to seeing it in person, thanks for sharing :beer:

 

I suspect that's pretty much spot on

 

I like the black fender flares but I think the lift is a bit too much. The current cc is 2.5 inches lift over the non-cc. The pictures here look almost excessive.Especially the rear.

 

No worries, it won't be that high unless it is equipped with a 4 corner air bag suspension, which I don't believe it will be.

 

Does nayone have data on the GA date for v60 estate cross county in the USA ?

 

I guess, V60 and S60 will be out around same time, end of year. V60CC will be next summer. Though I like T8 better, there will be no T8 I guess, same decision as V90CC.

Fusion · Red · T8 · XC60

 

Battery is controlled by charging module. The 45HP generated by CISG can be distributed to battery and e-motor by control module. When battery is low, CISG generates electricity, some of which is charging battery and a big portion can be driving the e-motor. Is it hard to understand?

It really boils down to how much HP you need in rear when driving. If not racing off-road, it is surely adequate most of time.

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Battery is controlled by charging module. The 45HP generated by CISG can be distributed to battery and e-motor by control module. When battery is low, CISG generates electricity, some of which is charging battery and a big portion can be driving the e-motor. Is it hard to understand?

It really boils down to how much HP you need in rear when driving. If not racing off-road, it is surely adequate most of time.

I suggest you read the owners manual to learn how the drive system of the T8 works before posting.

"High-voltage generator (CISG) - Charges the hybrid battery. Starter for the combustion engine. Can provide the combustion engine with extra electrical current."

The CISG can help charge the hybrid battery but it does not provide 45hp to the e-motor on the rear wheels as you seem to believe. The 45hp is for the front axle.

 

Having said that I'd buy a V90CC T8 plugin-hybrid, I'm not so sure any longer. I think that, from what's been written on Swedespeed forums and elsewhere about the problems with the imbalance between the weaker rear electric motor and the much stronger front ICE, it makes more sense to get an ICE-only Cross Country. I sure wish that Volvo could devise a vehicle that sends electric and ICE power to both axles in equal maximum amounts...

 

Please don't view the T8 drivetrain as an inferior system. In most driving situations and conditions, it actually provides better traction than the T6.

That's due to the 45hp engine in the front and 87hp engine in rear providing better low end torque than a conventional engine can.

As I mentioned earlier, if you use the system as intended: plug-in, charge it then reserve the battery if you know conditions are bad. It will be a fantastic vehicle for you.

As with everything, just need to be aware of its limitations.

If the limitations still give you pause, pay close attention to the mild hybrid varient (if that even comes to CC). That maybe the golden ticket but we need to learn more details first.

 

The weight is what gives it better traction AND makes it an inferior system in my opinion.

500 lbs is too much additional weight for me to want to move around. The Polestar One loses this same weight using Carbon Fiber body panels so you just end up moving the weight closer to the ground, but in a normal car? No thank you.

 

The weight is what gives it better traction AND makes it an inferior system in my opinion.

500 lbs is too much additional weight for me to want to move around. The Polestar One loses this same weight using Carbon Fiber body panels so you just end up moving the weight closer to the ground, but in a normal car? No thank you.

Interesting, I didn't realize how much more the T8 weighed ... 665 lbs ~= 15% more for the XC90 in fact.

 

I don't feel the weight at all. Sure I am not driving fast and don't use power mode very often.

 

No, they haven't revealed the curb weight yet as far as I know.

 

I'm not sure how the T8 system works, but can tell you how a Chevy Volt works by comparison. The volt is always driven by electric motors. The batteries can supply electric power, as well as the gas engine. The gas engine takes over completely when the batteries get down to about 30% to both protect them from depletion, and also to provide extra power if needed. Most of the time (cruising), very little power is needed. As such, when running on the ICE generator, a surplus of power can be used to recharge the batteries. In one of the driving modes (mountain mode), where higher power levels than usual are anticipated, the ICE will actually charge the batteries completely (when excess power is available, which is most of the time), so that full power (ICE & batteries) is available when needed.

Again, probably not how the T8 system is engineered, but illustrates what can be done. The thinking is that full power is really only rarely needed, and when it is, it isn't for long.

 

Again, probably not how the T8 system is engineered, but illustrates what can be done. The thinking is that full power is really only rarely needed, and when it is, it isn't for long.

Yea, this isn't at all how the T8 works https://www.auto123.com/en/news/volvo-t8-plug-in-hybrid-powertrain-explained/63311/ for a decent summary & more details

In short, gas engine powers the front wheels, electric powers the rear, eAWD system figures out how to split power between them. Its possible to drive in 'Pure' mode which just uses the electric, but its considerably lower power than the other modes, so harder acceleration will fire up the ICE to provide more power.

 

Looking at the link, I do see a "Save" mode where there seems to be the ability to recharge the batteries with the ICE, or just hold their state of charge. Sounds like there is at least a way to gain a full charge in the system, while driving. It doesn't go into how deeply they allow the batteries to discharge, and the safe minimum does vary with battery supplier. I would guess that they would design some sort of reserve into the system for emergencies as well as driver safety. The nature of the demand for power however, is such that almost no design (pure ICE included) can deliver 100% for long, so Volvo had to make some assumptions related to the maximum rear wheel torque requirements when they specified its motor. They are probably in as good a position as any to make those assumptions.

That said, now that the design has been released into the wild for a couple of years, if anyone has run into rear wheel traction issues with the T8 design. If that is the case, then the engineering assumptions might not be the best.

 

Here are some spy shots for you!! You can see more in the article link below.

http://teknikensvarld.se/nya-volvo-v60-cross-country-forsta-bilderna/

 

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