Has there been any word on the future of the XC60 T8? My dealer says the 2025 will be pretty much unchanged from 2024 but it may be supplanted by the EX60 (all electric) in 2025. As much as we like Volvo, we can't go all electric, but our current T8 fits our driving pattern perfectly. I'm not eager to give up Volvo comfort and style but if they discontinue the PHEV I'll have to. Has Volvo given any indications?
Future of XC60 T8?
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Definitely. China is a huge market for EVs and BYD's costs are pretty low.Tesla ????
Maybe the best on the US market,
BYD is by far the first in the world in terms of the number of sold electric cars
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Otherwise, China is the biggest market for classic cars, the best sales results are recorded by Audi, BMW, MB because of the Chinese market.
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True. But the take-up of EVs is much larger in China than in NA.
Well put and I agree.
Safety and a touchscreen are a function of what’s in the touchscreen. Put the HVAC controls into the touchscreen with voice commands and there is no safety issue. Drivers can make sure that there is no safety issue before they use the touchscreen. Or they can use voice. However, when common sense goes out the window, when auto companies lose their minds and start putting things that require immediate driver action such as turn signals into the touchscreen, there is an obvious safety issue and the regulators will start circling.
In the eyes of the European Commission, some car designers are going over the line. So, there is a new standard: “The car safety body introduced new guidance for 2026, which includes requirements for a car to receive a five-star safety rating: indicators, hazard warning lights, windscreen wipers, a horn, and SOS features will have to be controlled by proper switches.”
Seems 100% common sense to me.
Personally, I prefer the uncluttered Swedish minimalism. There is nothing in Volvo’s implementation that is unsafe and that does not meet the 2026 European Commission requirement for 5-star safety. My dearly loved daughter and wife, for whom I want nothing but the safest, drive XC60s. They have NEVER commented on the touchscreen being unsafe - and they are safe, conservative drivers. Why no complaint? I suppose that it’s because common sense is their guide to safe driving.
It’s strange for Volvo owners to complain that Volvo, a company with the premier safety reputation in all the auto world, a company who’s stated priorities are safety-environment-technology, a company who’s stated goal is that no person will be killed or badly injured in any new Volvo, would foist onto its customers a car that is unsafe because it lacks “buttons”. That’s crazy. Let’s give Volvo a bit of credit for thinking through the safety aspects of their design vis a vis the center screen. Let’s distinguish safety from personal preference. Don’t like the lack of buttons and switches? Don’t like Swedish minimalism? It’s all there, right in front of us, from the moment we first sit in the car, long before we close the deal and drive it away. Buttons not to one’s preference? Why not buy something else?
In what language ???? Did you know that Volvo sells everything worldwide?
I will just tell you that half of the EU countries are missing from the list of languages
7,139 officially known languages in the world
Agree in the touchscreen comments.
I very much like the way Volvo did it. And I'm not fanboying.
The things I use most: volume. There's a dial.
And I don't need to look for it, it's perfectly placed.
Driving mode. There's a button. (Teasing you AAOS people 🤣). I actually don't use that much.
Wipers, there's a button.
And HVAC... It's really well done I think. A tap or 2 to adjust but I don't even use that much because my seat and wheel are always on and the temp doesn't get adjusted much.
I tap 2 times to get the camera 360 but I'm usually going parking on a tight spot when I do that, so not unsafe.
And why are Tesla's still selling? Because barely anyone buys them for looks. Lol @ soap bar.
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I’m far from a boomer (not even 40), and I hate some things about the touch screens. Especially now owning a Sensus based car and a Google based car. The amount of distraction needed to adjust the interior lights (at night) on a Google based car is asinine. I’m sure the “hey Google… dim the interior lights…” will work but haven’t yet tried.
On the Sensus, I have an old school turn dial that requires zero distraction and is entirely from muscle memory and is instant. I could provide other examples, like the size of the climate control buttons, the delays in touch reactions,
But… I think we would both agree that the touch screens in cars are not the real problem. It’s driver’s using phones, and using the phones while driving. Phoenix is a gauntlet of ass holes on the road texting and driving and weaving all over the place.
I really hope that the XC60 T8 stays around for at least a few more years. My wife doesn’t drive much anymore and it makes no sense just having her BMW sit. It’s a coupe and the doors are long and heavy, and she’s not comfortable parking it anymore. I was thinking in a couple of years trading my 2020 in for a T8. We are not ready for a BEV yet, and I love my Volvo, but having a car that’s basically all electric for a trip to the store would be great and an easy to access 360 camera would help her park. I know that my car can be put in reverse and the 360 view can be selected, then put back into drive, but I’m trying to make things easier for her, not more challenging. Plus I could get the one thing I wish I had gotten when I bought my current car-B&W
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@Ultrarunner511 I know everyone has different preferences... but I generally never adjust gauge lights... honestly I generally don't care how bright or dark they are, on half the cars I own I probably have never touched the setting, or if I did, it was years ago and never adjusted since. And I'm not a betting person, but I'd bet that most folks also rarely/never adjust those lights, so having the buried is probably more likely to prevent them from getting accidently changed than to prevent intentional changing.
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I second this…
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I guess it may be a combination of my dark window tint and driving at night/early mornings often. The brightest setting is way too bright and the darkest is way too low. In the mornings, I often have it on a low setting and leave it. But when I start the car in a shaded area after work, the interior lights go dim so much that I cannot see anything on the displays. It does the same while driving in a tunnel for example. It defaults to your nighttime setting. It’s a daily occurrence and Sensus based cars had it right IMO.
I use it a lot. Guess I'm the exception.
Am also former Saab driver, the car that showed me dimmer lights in low light are better.
Miss you Night Panel Button.
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While somewhat antidotal, I've had exactly zero customers speak up during delivery when I show them where in the menu it is, or call after the fact to mention it or even ask about it. But I know folks who spend time on forums aren't normal =-D
The wheel is better, but it's probably not better enough to be worth the added complexity to the dash when you can do the same thing in a menu if most folks don't change it. Its no wonder old headlights are so weak, they weren't trying to light up enough for fully constricted pupils like we all drive around with today.
The wheel is better, but it's probably not better enough to be worth the added complexity to the dash when you can do the same thing in a menu if most folks don't change it. Its no wonder old headlights are so weak, they weren't trying to light up enough for fully constricted pupils like we all drive around with today.
My pet peeve is Youtube reviewers who don't take the time to learn the car's infotainment system then act like it's really complicated and impenetrable. There's one popular reviewer who complained in multiple videos that Volvos don't come with AM radio and his favorite station is an AM sports talk show and he couldn't listen to it. I pointed out in the comments that he CAN listen to it. Not only will the car get AM stations, it will get AM stations from across the country via iHeart, TuneIn, etc, AND...you don't have to push a single g-- d--- button, just say, "Google, play WXYZ-AM on iHeart" (or whatever). Plus, you can listen to it whether you're in Boston or San Francisco or pretty much anywhere in between! Try that with your 1970 Dodge Dart radio. The same reviewer complained about adjusting the heat through the screen. For chrissakes, just tell the car what temperature you want!
And yesterday, after watching for about two minutes, I bounced out of watching an XC30 test drive by another popular reviewer when (before he even left the parking lot) he started whining and poking at the screen because some function wasn't a physical button somewhere. Hey reviewers, instead of whining and acting tremendously frustrated by screens, apologize to your viewers for not taking the time to get familiar with the system and admit that you really can't offer an opinion on the car's infotainment because YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT!
And yesterday, after watching for about two minutes, I bounced out of watching an XC30 test drive by another popular reviewer when (before he even left the parking lot) he started whining and poking at the screen because some function wasn't a physical button somewhere. Hey reviewers, instead of whining and acting tremendously frustrated by screens, apologize to your viewers for not taking the time to get familiar with the system and admit that you really can't offer an opinion on the car's infotainment because YOU DON'T KNOW HOW TO USE IT!
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The AAOS is actually really good in particular about how much you can do by voice control. Over time, there are actually more and more functions added. I have Sensus cars, only my daughter has an AOOS at this point and my sister will switch to one in a few weeks too. And you can even control your Google home by voice command in the car.
People just have to get with the program and learn it. Whenever anyone picks up a car here, they'll get the full tutorial to use it and they can come back for additional tutorial if they want. There is a learning curve to these systems for sure, younger people in general actually love learning them but old fogies are usually harder to convince. I'm considered part of the latter.
People just have to get with the program and learn it. Whenever anyone picks up a car here, they'll get the full tutorial to use it and they can come back for additional tutorial if they want. There is a learning curve to these systems for sure, younger people in general actually love learning them but old fogies are usually harder to convince. I'm considered part of the latter.
Excellently explained
Please explain how to do it in German, Norwegian, Finnish, Danish, Portuguese, Polish or some other language.
I don't need to list languages from Asia or Africa
FYI If you didn't know, when professionals test cars, they test usability and functionality in the whole world and not only for a specific market.
So true.
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From this price list - noticing what could be a major change that there is a T6 plug in hybrid model with only 350 horsepower, and you have to go for the Ultra configuration to get 455 horsepower with a T8? Is this something that is already the case in the UK to have these two variants of a PHEV? In the US for 202; you can get the 455 horsepower powertrain in Plus.
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