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jacko15

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Too bad this update isn't available over the air. "Updates in software 3.5.14
Software release date: 22 April 2025

This update is only available in workshops and not as an over-the-air download.

The foot brake should feel less stiff right after starting the vehicles.

This update also contains some tweaks and fixes. Including improvements to:
Lane keeping aid
Road sign information speed limit prediction
Inflation pressure monitoring (iTPMS)"
 
I had my car serviced today (Australia) and asked for the latest update. Picked up, it had 3.4.4 - Apparently the dealer doesn't get the updates for up to a week later and the charge to install just the update next week - $236..........
 
Many of these software updates seem like such a waste of resources.

Have there been complaints about the foot brake being too stiff after starting the vehicle?

Do we really need tweaks to the lane keeping aid (which works really well as-is) and road sign information?

So pointless. I wonder if Volvo’s contract with Google requires monthly updates and Google has to publish updates for the sake of it. That would explain the many updates that are just “drive train adjustments”.
 
Many of these software updates seem like such a waste of resources.

Have there been complaints about the foot brake being too stiff after starting the vehicle?

Do we really need tweaks to the lane keeping aid (which works really well as-is) and road sign information?

So pointless. I wonder if Volvo’s contract with Google requires monthly updates and Google has to publish updates for the sake of it. That would explain the many updates that are just “drive train adjustments”.
Oddly enough, the 2023’s brake pedal has had a weird stiffness at some start ups. It’s inconsistent, unpredictable, temporary and seems to reset after releasing the brake then reapplying it.
 
I wonder if Volvo’s contract with Google requires monthly updates and Google has to publish updates for the sake of it. That would explain the many updates that are just “drive train adjustments”.
Google doesn't make these updates, it's Volvo's dev team. Google creates and maintains the underlying system (AAOS), but the actual changes in the deployed updates are from Volvo.

Oddly enough, the 2023’s brake pedal has had a weird stiffness at some start ups. It’s inconsistent, unpredictable, temporary and seems to reset after releasing the brake then reapplying it.
Mine has done the same since new. Never bugged me much, but I don't mind it being fixed.
 
I wonder if Volvo’s contract with Google requires monthly updates and Google has to publish updates for the sake of it. That would explain the many updates that are just “drive train adjustments”.
Google doesn't make these updates, it's Volvo's dev team. Google creates and maintains the underlying system (AAOS), but the actual changes in the deployed updates are from Volvo.

Oddly enough, the 2023’s brake pedal has had a weird stiffness at some start ups. It’s inconsistent, unpredictable, temporary and seems to reset after releasing the brake then reapplying it.
Mine has done the same since new. Never bugged me much, but I don't mind it being fixed.
Interesting. I didn’t know that.
 
I definitely get frustrated with some of the software issues and bugs (mostly the lack of transparency and communication). They 100% should do better. However, I do acknowledge that it's a delicate dance between multiple parties:

Google creates the base operating system.
Volvo integrates the OS into the actual vehicle hardware and functions.
3rd party companies (e.g. Spotify, Waze, etc) develop their own apps that have to work across many platforms.

All three have to sort of sync up to make it things work right to give the user the proper experience. Not making excuses for them, but this stuff is harder than people think. AAOS itself is a very solid and pretty refined product, but Volvo's implementation has been rocky for sure. Despite all that, I still do enjoy using it most of the time. I've never had major issues (quite a few minor ones!), but things have been really solid on mine since the 3.4.4 update.
 
Oddly enough, the 2023’s brake pedal has had a weird stiffness at some start ups. It’s inconsistent, unpredictable, temporary and seems to reset after releasing the brake then reapplying it.
my 2024 also had same issue until some OTA apparently fixed it ( I'd say 3.3.16)
didn't have it for long now. was scary when it happened
 
Too bad this update isn't available over the air. "Updates in software 3.5.14
Software release date: 22 April 2025

This update is only available in workshops and not as an over-the-air download.

The foot brake should feel less stiff right after starting the vehicles.

This update also contains some tweaks and fixes. Including improvements to:
Lane keeping aid
Road sign information speed limit prediction
Inflation pressure monitoring (iTPMS)"

As has been a consistent trend, Volvo is unable to fulfill its sales promise of OTA updates AGAIN.... These software issues appear to also continue in 2025 models. This is undermining my confidence in Volvo and making me consider alternative manufacturers
 
Oddly enough, the 2023’s brake pedal has had a weird stiffness at some start ups. It’s inconsistent, unpredictable, temporary and seems to reset after releasing the brake then reapplying it.
Happens to my 2023 as well. I could almost always reproduce it: stop and park the car, turn off completely, but not lock; wait for some minutes (this I have no idea of the actual number), and then it happens. Indeed very scary, especially when I didn't realize it happened and started backing out only finding it hard to brake.
 
I just took my V60 in for its 10k service and the dealer refused to perform a software update. They say that it's policy (unclear if dealer policy or corporate policy, but it sounded like they were trying to say the latter) that they'll only perform updates if they might resolve a problem, not for the sake of new features. Has anyone else run into this?
 
It varies a lot by dealer and can also depend on the purpose of your visit. It is stated on the release notes general info that updates outside of OTA may incur a charge. Some people have reported dealers doing it for free with no strings attached. If your car is under warranty, most dealers will be happy to do by tying it to a software/infotainment issue, so they at least can get paid for the work via warranty (you may need to lead them this way).

I can totally understand why a dealer doesn't want 500 people all trying to come in for a free update that is released OTA. It does occupy up a bay and techs need to be paid. However, when they continue to have to make update after update workshop-only, it does get a little ridiculous to not offer something.

Either way, the next time an OTA is actually made available (allegedly later this month), it will be incorporate all the previous updates missed. Before it was pulled OTA, version 3.4.4 mentioned that cars as far back as version 2.4 would be eligible.

From release note page:

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