[Billk9989]

I am hoping that i can remove the underbelly cover and maybe get the lower grille out,i really dont want to take the whole bumper off on a new car.
I have noticed in the new system that it has not come up with any sort of alerts , also unlike the sensus on our 21 car, there is no provision in AAOS for stored codes/faults.
I did go to the dealer (honestly) and asked the senior manager the next time he goes on a "volvo junket" to ask the powers to be for my RRS ,and ask them why we have a car in australia that recognises moose (whatever you call them over there!)

Well good luck. Couple of screws hold the bottom edge of the lower grill in place, but I did not find a way to release the fasteners that hold the upper edge of the grill in place.

 

[G10]

Thanks for that info, good to know.

 

[Inevitable]

Volvo have been trying: Volvo developing kangaroo detection system in Australia
If you do have a lot of Roos a bull bar works well but ugly on a Volvo, and some swear by the “shoo roo” product.

 

[BigBang]

Volvo have been trying: Volvo developing kangaroo detection system in Australia
If you do have a lot of Roos a bull bar works well but ugly on a Volvo, and some swear by the “shoo roo” product.

LOL
News from 02 November 2015

Knowing that Volvo has a good development team, maybe it will be solved by 2030

https://www.media.volvocars.com/global/en-gb/media/pressreleases/168841/volvo-cars-begins-first-ever-australian-tests-for-kangaroo-safety-research

 

[G10]

Joy of joys, looks like my idea is not going to make me a millionare.
I like the quote from the article -"This is why it’s important that we test and calibrate our technology on real kangaroos in their natural environment."
Well for what its worth, i have tested their tech in a natural environment.
Also some roos are pretty darn big, in fairness i see a lot of unhappy owners of other car brands where they have hit a roo and near on totaled the front.The funniest one was a peugot where the owner was that p.....ed off he was throwing car parts out (bumper bits,fog lights indicators etc)as he went down the road,the final bit was the aftermarket dash mat (about 3 k down the road) as the air bag had deployed.
Thankyou for the two prior posts, i would never of found them, and i might try the roo shoo things,nothing to lose eh?. (edit spelling)

 

[MattRichmond]

I don't know if they made any progress but I remember reading that the hopping confuses the detection systems. Systems I guess perceived the hop as a change in distance. https://www.theguardian.com/technol...nology/2017/jul/01/volvo-admits-its-self-driving-cars-are-confused-by-kangaroos

 

[G10]

Reading these articles makes you think exactly how much damage is being done to cars, i know first hand of attending mva/rcr where tourists have "avoided hitting "skippy-their words" resulting in at best rollovers,to worst head on with injuries.
Reading the articles in regarding the jumping, generally most roos hang to the verges of roads (sometimes in numbers), so even if there was a detection of static animals roadside would be better than nothing,they do blend in well in our topography.
And i ordered some sonic roo thingys- fingers crossed.

 

[Billk9989]

Reading these articles makes you think exactly how much damage is being done to cars, i know first hand of attending mva/rcr where tourists have "avoided hitting "skippy-their words" resulting in at best rollovers,to worst head on with injuries.
Reading the articles in regarding the jumping, generally most roos hang to the verges of roads (sometimes in numbers), so even if there was a detection of static animals roadside would be better than nothing,they do blend in well in our topography.
And i ordered some sonic roo thingys- fingers crossed.

Deer whistles were a big thing in my deer-heavy part of the USA, 40 or so years ago. I would see them everywhere on fenders and bumpers. I don’t see them anymore and I’m guessing that the reason I don’t see them is that people with deer whistles were still hitting deer. At the time I didn’t know of any test data that supported the claims, so I went with the St. Christopher statue. Shoo Roo is hopefully a different story and has some supporting test data.

OK, OK, so I was kidding about the statue. Count me as skeptical on whistling things; it all started when my sonic mouse repeller didn’t protect my basement (true).

 

[samplesdsg_1999]

I have hit two deer with my 2021 XC40 in Pennsylvania, US. One deer jumped out, one was standing in the road just around a bend. No warning went off, although they both happened very quickly.

 

[VolvoUhu]

Perhaps this challenge will benefit from LiDAR since it‘s designed to precisely model and measure objects ahead of it vs. current systems. It was good to learn how the current methods involve calculating distances relative the plane of travel (road surface). It makes sense it‘s a reliable reference point given that’s what we travel on rather than calculating for mid air objects (including flying Roos and deer).

@samplesdsg_1999 is pointing out a similarity called out by Volvo engineers in the The Guardian article.

 

[BigBang]

I have hit two deer with my 2021 XC40 in Pennsylvania, US. One deer jumped out, one was standing in the road just around a bend. No warning went off, although they both happened very quickly.

Then you need something like this

 

[31355]

I have hit two deer with my 2021 XC40 in Pennsylvania, US. One deer jumped out, one was standing in the road just around a bend. No warning went off, although they both happened very quickly.

I think peoples understanding of how animal detection works leads to unrealistic expectations. One of the key parts to the system is that the animal is moving, not just standing in the road. It also must be perpendicular to the cars camera to get a good side view. And, of course, cameras have reduced performance at night, which is when most people hit animals. Even if the scenario is perfect, the car is only designed to break in slow the impact by approximately 20 miles an hour (you can look up the exact scenario performance specifications in the owners manual). The system is not designed to avoid hitting an animal, but rather to reduce the speed. When you’re talking about an enormous moose that falls onto the windshield and threatens to crush the occupants, it’s clear, how a reduced impact speed could me the difference between life and death. His capabilities are fairly rudimentary, but it’s important to note there are very few manufacturers that actually offer animal detection in their cars at all. With the next generation system, including a LiDAR, this basically doubles the distance, it’s able to scan in the dark, and it also includes of much wider area that is monitored. Paired with an increased amount of data and a faster processor. It’s clear animal detection will finally take a big step forward in the functionality with LiDAR. I just think it’s a little disingenuous to see the system doesn’t work well because you hit a deer…. Of course you did, the system was never designed to avoid the accident. If an animal is detected, it will not apply the brakes and invoke ABS in a full on panic stop… it’s just not programmed to do that, but rather reduce the impact speed

 

[BigBang]

I think peoples understanding of how animal detection works leads to unrealistic expectations. One of the key parts to

Many forum members are waiting for your instruction, don't write useless comments
How to clean sunroof drains in 60 seconds

 

[G10]

I am not trying to be too unrealistic in regards expectations of any cars capabilities in crash mitigation/avoidance, but volvo does market (along with other manafacturers) these "safety" things. We all managed without this tech before, including having to use landlines, and the old volvos could cut a swathe through any roadside animals intent on sudden demise, due to the wonderful volvo shock absorbing bumper.
The sonic devices probably have a placebo effect,but its worth a try as they are only a couple of undervalued AUD $ each.
Facial recognition systems-think of the variables on that?,thermal imagery also.

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Many forum members are waiting for your instruction, don't write useless comments
How to clean sunroof drains in 60 seconds

Well FWIW, someone posted a 4 minute video about it, so I'm sure you can trim that down, geez, let that dead horse lie.

 

[BigBang]

Well FWIW, someone posted a 4 minute video about it, so I'm sure you can trim that down, geez, let that dead horse lie.

Thank you for the information
I didn't see that link, can I have a link for it?

 

[G10]

Theres an app for that

 

[31355]

I am not trying to be too unrealistic in regards expectations of any cars capabilities in crash mitigation/avoidance, but volvo does market (along with other manafacturers) these "safety" things. We all managed without this tech before, including having to use landlines, and the old volvos could cut a swathe through any roadside animals intent on sudden demise, due to the wonderful volvo shock absorbing bumper.
The sonic devices probably have a placebo effect,but its worth a try as they are only a couple of undervalued AUD $ each.
Facial recognition systems-think of the variables on that?,thermal imagery also.

I think you have confused "Volvo doesn't offer roo protection" with "Volvo can't increase the price of the car that substantially to make it affordable for customers". It's one thing to scale moose protection to deer and then offer it world wide, but when roos really only are in their Australian market and require much more advanced tech, then it just doesn't make it scalable at a reasonable price. Notice no manufacture offers it.

 

[G10]

Well i thought volvo did all right in increasing the cost of their car here in oz, but yeah i get your point

 

[Pioneer4x4]

Thank you for the information
I didn't see that link, can I have a link for it?

NOt sure where the recent one is but a quick search of "sunroof drain video" showed this
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