[MightyVoice]

I am seriously thinking about trading in my 2012 s60 T6 for (likely) a 2017 xc60 T6. I've had the s60 for over five years, and I think i'm ready for something different and a bit bigger.

One of my hang-ups is going from the awesome 3.0 Turbo engine to the twin-charged 2.0 motor. And yes I know the xc60 was available with the 3.0 through 2016, however during my months of searching I've found those to be exceedingly rare. The ones that do pop up have pretty high miles on them. Plus it seems that the 2.0 might actually be better suited to the xc60 both from a gas mileage and power perspective.

Who here has made the switch from the 6 cylinder to the 4 cylinder? Any regrets? Any indications that your boosted 4 cylinder is wearing out early on?

I know that up through 2015 the 2.0 suffered from oil consumption, but has since seemed to be sorted out. I do plan on purchasing the additional Volvo warranty....the dealer quoted me right around $4,500 for another 5 years on the 47k mile xc60 (yikes). So on one hand I shouldn't be worried about reliability, but on the other hand I'd like a good idea about what I'm getting into long-term....

I've test driven two 2017 xc60 examples, both Dynamic trim, one had 47k miles and came off lease from Minnesota and the other just 13k miles off lease from Pennsylvania. I was pleasantly surprised about how quick both SUVs were with the 4 cylinder, but its hard to know for sure with just brief test drives. The 13k mile version is really nice, almost brand new, but the dealer wants nearly $30k for it. The 47k mile edition is supposedly already Polestar tuned, which is nice, but boy that seems like a lot of miles already.

Thanks in advance for the help!

 

[Putertech]

Curious on why the MY 17 vs the 18, even with the swap from S to XC 60 the interior is basically the same minus maybe tft dash cluster.

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[Wayne T5]

Random thought but mine may be available in a few months - '15.5 T6, Flamenco Red/Off black, 56k miles, BLIS, heated front seats, very nice condition. I need to decide if I'm selling this one or the XC70 I got a few months ago.

 

[napster]

You will have no problem with the 2.0 Drive e engine. We have it in our 2017 XC60 R Design with P*. Bought it with 3600 miles and now it has a little over 40k miles. No problems at all. The engine pulls with more than enough power and the 8 speed transmission matches it very well. We also have to other Volvo's with this engine combo (2017 XC90 T6 and 2017 S90 T6) and again the engine has performed well in those cars as well.

We have done some long trips in the XC60 and it is very quick even at highway speeds. You are loosing two cylinders but gaining two extra cogs in the transmission. The eight speed transmission really makes the most of the power band from the 2.0 Drive e engine.

I would suggest you test drive a R Design version since it has a stiffer suspension setup.

As for the Volvo extended warranty contact Mike at Steingold Volvo, he has the cheapest prices on Volvo extended warranties. If you quote him Swedespeed he will give another discount off his low price.

 

[MightyVoice]

Puretech - I like the simplicity and proven platform of the 2017, I don't think I want to get involved with the SPA platform vehicles just yet, though I had looked at leasing a new s60 because I think those cars are flat out gorgeous.

Wayne - I could be interested....a little higher miles than I'd like but my s60 is flamenco red so I'm partial, keep me in the loop

Napster - Thanks for the feedback on the 2.0 and the suggestion to call Steingold. I am curious about the R-Design, haven't driven one yet, none for sale locally that I've been interested in. I wouldn't mind a softer suspension on my daily driver Volvo though since I have the GTO as my other car....but I have thought that maybe I should find an R-Design to drive before buying a Dynamic just to be sure, lol, the R-Designs sure are slick looking.

 

[catfish93]

Puretech - I like the simplicity and proven platform of the 2017, I don't think I want to get involved with the SPA platform vehicles just yet, though I had looked at leasing a new s60 because I think those cars are flat out gorgeous.

Wayne - I could be interested....a little higher miles than I'd like but my s60 is flamenco red so I'm partial, keep me in the loop

Napster - Thanks for the feedback on the 2.0 and the suggestion to call Steingold. I am curious about the R-Design, haven't driven one yet, none for sale locally that I've been interested in. I wouldn't mind a softer suspension on my daily driver Volvo though since I have the GTO as my other car....but I have thought that maybe I should find an R-Design to drive before buying a Dynamic just to be sure, lol, the R-Designs sure are slick looking.

+1 to the proven platform. I gotta ask why you're so worried about miles? I bought my 2012 XC60 T6 in January of 2017 with 99,500 miles. She's at 207,400 now, used as a part time rideshare car for 3 years. Miles don't mean a thing if the car is well cared for. Get the extended warranty and drive it as much as you want. The XC60 is a fantastic car with the T6, I haven't driven one with the Drive-E 4cyl. Interestingly enough, the Drive-E makes nearly identical power and torque as the outgoing 3.2 N/A straight six, but weighs a bit less. The twincharged Drive-E makes 316HP - 16 more than my T6, but only 295 torque, 30 short of mine. But the Drive E T5 is rated for 31 MPG highway, a pipe dream for me.

 

[estradaccord]

+1 to the proven platform. I gotta ask why you're so worried about miles? I bought my 2012 XC60 T6 in January of 2017 with 99,500 miles. She's at 207,400 now, used as a part time rideshare car for 3 years. Miles don't mean a thing if the car is well cared for. Get the extended warranty and drive it as much as you want. The XC60 is a fantastic car with the T6, I haven't driven one with the Drive-E 4cyl. Interestingly enough, the Drive-E makes nearly identical power and torque as the outgoing 3.2 N/A straight six, but weighs a bit less. The twincharged Drive-E makes 316HP - 16 more than my T6, but only 295 torque, 30 short of mine. But the Drive E T5 is rated for 31 MPG highway, a pipe dream for me.

I share this same sentiment. This P3 chassis(mine is T6 R Design) and it's parts have been shown to be very reliable and durable throughout the hundreds of thousands of miles. I purchased mine with 117,00 or so, spent less than you can imagine on updating/replacing suspension parts, brakes, fluids, driveline fluids, plugs, tires and other consumables like oil trap, air filter & cabin filter, now have tripped 132,000 and this T6 and chassis are still solid, pull hard daily and has just the right amount of stiffness. This is not a bmw chassis/engine that was destined for planned obsolescence. Volvo built it right and stout and still made new platforms and engines but only because that's just the nature of the business.
Do not shy away from a car with miles. It just means it was broken in for you!

 

[MightyVoice]

Thanks for the feedback on the high miles.....I really have been shying away from any that have more than 50,000 miles, but maybe I need to rethink that a little bit. There is a 2016 R-Design xc60 with the inline 6 for sale in the next county over...71,000 miles on the clock. Maybe I need to go check it out just for the heck of it. From what I understand I could still get the extended warranty from Volvo on a vehicle like that and have it be good for the unlimited miles right? Just 10 years from the in service date in terms of time limits?

 

[catfish93]

Thanks for the feedback on the high miles.....I really have been shying away from any that have more than 50,000 miles, but maybe I need to rethink that a little bit. There is a 2016 R-Design xc60 with the inline 6 for sale in the next county over...71,000 miles on the clock. Maybe I need to go check it out just for the heck of it. From what I understand I could still get the extended warranty from Volvo on a vehicle like that and have it be good for the unlimited miles right? Just 10 years from the in service date in terms of time limits?

Depends on if it qualifies as CPO and when it was certified. The old CPO program covered cars 7 years and 100k miles, but is a but more comprehensive. The new one covers cars 5 years old from the original in-service date, upgradeable to 10 years. All will have under 80,000 miles. It may also qualify for a warranty from the selling dealer as well, but this is not a Volvo backed warranty. Should you REALLY trust such a "warranty"? It's probably the same one that Bangladesh calls me about all the time...

Honestly, just get the thing inspected by a mechanic prior to purchase. That's better than any warranty if you ask me.

 

[estradaccord]

Depends on if it qualifies as CPO and when it was certified. The old CPO program covered cars 7 years and 100k miles, but is a but more comprehensive. The new one covers cars 5 years old from the original in-service date, upgradeable to 10 years. All will have under 80,000 miles. It may also qualify for a warranty from the selling dealer as well, but this is not a Volvo backed warranty. Should you REALLY trust such a "warranty"? It's probably the same one that Bangladesh calls me about all the time...

Honestly, just get the thing inspected by a mechanic prior to purchase. That's better than any warranty if you ask me.

So much this. Paid $85 for an independent volvo mechanic in my city to do a good PPE while also letting me into the bay and under the lift to get a look at the car myself. Let me look at the computers when they hooked up to the car.
Given the age and mileage of my car the owner said if I don't go through with the sale to let him know and give the name of the dealer so he could go buy it for his wife. He was that confident in the sum of the car miles not withstanding.
I'd say go take a look at that 2016 and you may actually pull the trigger warranty or not.

 

[MightyVoice]

I wouldn't get a non-Volvo warranty when it comes to extended warranty options, I would see if it qualified for the upgradeable Volvo CPO or just forget it. And yeah I would also get a PPE done as well, especially since its not being sold by a Volvo dealer and has no certification or anything coming with it. Especially since I'd be getting rid of my s60 which is a totally known quantity and the only reason I'd flip it is because I just want something different. I'd want to do everything I can to make sure I'm not swapping a great car for something that's a basketcase!

I'm skeptical that the particular R-Design i'm talking about might be kind of beat because its been for sale at least a month....seems like R-designs around these parts sell very quick usually.

 

[.215033]

I am seriously thinking about trading in my 2012 s60 T6 for (likely) a 2017 xc60 T6. I've had the s60 for over five years, and I think i'm ready for something different and a bit bigger.

One of my hang-ups is going from the awesome 3.0 Turbo engine to the twin-charged 2.0 motor. And yes I know the xc60 was available with the 3.0 through 2016, however during my months of searching I've found those to be exceedingly rare. The ones that do pop up have pretty high miles on them. Plus it seems that the 2.0 might actually be better suited to the xc60 both from a gas mileage and power perspective.

Who here has made the switch from the 6 cylinder to the 4 cylinder? Any regrets? Any indications that your boosted 4 cylinder is wearing out early on?

I know that up through 2015 the 2.0 suffered from oil consumption, but has since seemed to be sorted out. I do plan on purchasing the additional Volvo warranty....the dealer quoted me right around $4,500 for another 5 years on the 47k mile xc60 (yikes). So on one hand I shouldn't be worried about reliability, but on the other hand I'd like a good idea about what I'm getting into long-term....

I've test driven two 2017 xc60 examples, both Dynamic trim, one had 47k miles and came off lease from Minnesota and the other just 13k miles off lease from Pennsylvania. I was pleasantly surprised about how quick both SUVs were with the 4 cylinder, but its hard to know for sure with just brief test drives. The 13k mile version is really nice, almost brand new, but the dealer wants nearly $30k for it. The 47k mile edition is supposedly already Polestar tuned, which is nice, but boy that seems like a lot of miles already.

Thanks in advance for the help!

I personally prefer the T5 Drive-E after owning 2.5T, T5, and 3.2 volvos over a long period of time. I have also driven a Drive-E T6 and find it just as smooth and responsive. As the other guy mentioned, perhaps try to find a clean 2018 - might as well get the most bang for your buck.