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Visited dealer yesterday for oil change and filter... a "recommendation" report based on current mileage of 103,000 miles (2010 S80 T6) to replace "auxiliary drive serpentine belts and tensioners." Service manager advised this was recommended by Volve at 10 years or 110,000 miles. Cost was $1460 miles.

Evil things will of course happen if that belt breaks. Does the timing and price seem reasonable? Will be checking with two indie shops for estimates but of course curious about any member experiences. Did a search for "serpentine belt replacement" on this forum and got nothing back.
 
sounds a bit higher than ive quoted, but within the ballpark and every price will be a little different. is a pretty involved job and is a good idea to replace, ive seen belts, tensioners and idler pulleys all fail and they will lead to a bad day with towing etc.

@wayne t5, only drive e timing belt is due at 150k. rest of timing belts are sooner, but we arent talking about timing belt, OP aux belts are due for replacement after 10 years, waiting until 150k would put OP closer to 15 years and ive seen plenty fail before then
 
sounds a bit higher than ive quoted, but within the ballpark and every price will be a little different. is a pretty involved job and is a good idea to replace, ive seen belts, tensioners and idler pulleys all fail and they will lead to a bad day with towing etc.

@wayne t5, only drive e timing belt is due at 150k. rest of timing belts are sooner, but we arent talking about timing belt, OP aux belts are due for replacement after 10 years, waiting until 150k would put OP closer to 15 years and ive seen plenty fail before then
So is the manual wrong then?
 
So is the manual wrong then?
no. the drive e engine has a timing belt(2016 only in s80 to my knowledge). the two inline 6 and the v8 are timing chain cars. the op was asking about the t6 auxillary drive belt replacement which is different then the timing belt. auxillary drive belt and associated parts have 10 year 150k replacement interval
 
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Looks like timing should be 150k miles from the maintenance guide:

https://volvornt.harte-hanks.com/manuals/2010/2010_xc60/2010XC60Warranty.pdf
Wayne, thanks for the PDF. That one of my documents has gone missing so I'll be printing the relevant pages for my S80 file.

And thanks to everyone else that's added a comment. I'd conclude so far that 10 years and 103K miles is a cautious time (and I tend to be cautious on maintenance) but no immediate need to rush out and get it done. Which is pretty much what the service advisor said. So I'll be thinking to have it done by early fall... only driving about 7,500 miles a year these days so that won't mean a ton of new miles.

Will also check that extra pulley mentioned... probably should start with the original quote person and move along from there.
 
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sounds a bit higher than ive quoted, but within the ballpark and every price will be a little different. is a pretty involved job and is a good idea to replace, ive seen belts, tensioners and idler pulleys all fail and they will lead to a bad day with towing etc.

@wayne t5, only drive e timing belt is due at 150k. rest of timing belts are sooner, but we arent talking about timing belt, OP aux belts are due for replacement after 10 years, waiting until 150k would put OP closer to 15 years and ive seen plenty fail before then
Curiosity question... can you quantify "a bit higher than I've quoted"? In other words... how high is the bit?
 
I had my auxiliary belt done in 2017 at the dealer, was about $1000 CDN. That included all of the tensioners and pulleys and such as well. It was overdue based on mileage when I did it and the car ran much quieter so probably worth it.
 
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I had my auxiliary belt done in 2017 at the dealer, was about $1000 CDN. That included all of the tensioners and pulleys and such as well. It was overdue based on mileage when I did it and the car ran much quieter so probably worth it.
Quite a bit less than my quote at current exchange rate. If you were in Windsor I might ask a dealer about current pricing... but alas, for the immediate future not allowed to visit Canada. Have a trip to Niagara-ares wine country in mind when we can drive over again. Hoping for next spring sometime.
 
Mine was done last year at 105k miles and 10 years old. Was about $650 at the dealer.


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Looks like timing should be 150k miles from the maintenance guide:

https://volvornt.harte-hanks.com/manuals/2010/2010_xc60/2010XC60Warranty.pdf
Going back through this thread I believe Wayne was saying the "timing" for the job per the manual is 150K , and wasn't talking about "timing belts", at least that's the way I read it. The manual he linked is for 2010 models in the XC60 book, so I grabbed my 2010 S80 book which says the same thing (as I knew it did). I have the same car as the OP, 2010 T6 and I'm sure his engine vin code is 99 just like mine.

So what? Well, I don't see anything on this page that says that the aux belt for 99 vin code engines has a 10 year interval, or 150K miles, whichever happens first. The way I read the special denotation at the bottom of the page pertains to timing belts, not aux belts, and the different intervals between 5-cyl pzez engines and non-pzez. I've had plenty of 5-cyl's and know the 10-year limit "no matter the mileage" golden rule. I'm not saying I want to see my motor blow up, and maybe I'm parsing words here, but I would like to better understand why Volvo wouldn't have said 10 years on the aux instead of only stating 150K as they did. It's an expensive service and I'm at 122K right now. Here I was thinking I've got a little more time to go.
 
Going back through this thread I believe Wayne was saying the "timing" for the job per the manual is 150K , and wasn't talking about "timing belts", at least that's the way I read it. The manual he linked is for 2010 models in the XC60 book, so I grabbed my 2010 S80 book which says the same thing (as I knew it did). I have the same car as the OP, 2010 T6 and I'm sure his engine vin code is 99 just like mine.

So what? Well, I don't see anything on this page that says that the aux belt for 99 vin code engines has a 10 year interval, or 150K miles, whichever happens first. The way I read the special denotation at the bottom of the page pertains to timing belts, not aux belts, and the different intervals between 5-cyl pzez engines and non-pzez. I've had plenty of 5-cyl's and know the 10-year limit "no matter the mileage" golden rule. I'm not saying I want to see my motor blow up, and maybe I'm parsing words here, but I would like to better understand why Volvo wouldn't have said 10 years on the aux instead of only stating 150K as they did. It's an expensive service and I'm at 122K right now. Here I was thinking I've got a little more time to go.
My dealer said 110k miles was the interval for the aux belt and pulleys. I did it a bit early. I actually don't have a book for mine, they lost it when I bought the car and gave me a 2011 book, mine is a 2009, with the 3.2.

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Going back through this thread I believe Wayne was saying the "timing" for the job per the manual is 150K , and wasn't talking about "timing belts", at least that's the way I read it. The manual he linked is for 2010 models in the XC60 book, so I grabbed my 2010 S80 book which says the same thing (as I knew it did). I have the same car as the OP, 2010 T6 and I'm sure his engine vin code is 99 just like mine.

So what? Well, I don't see anything on this page that says that the aux belt for 99 vin code engines has a 10 year interval, or 150K miles, whichever happens first. The way I read the special denotation at the bottom of the page pertains to timing belts, not aux belts, and the different intervals between 5-cyl pzez engines and non-pzez. I've had plenty of 5-cyl's and know the 10-year limit "no matter the mileage" golden rule. I'm not saying I want to see my motor blow up, and maybe I'm parsing words here, but I would like to better understand why Volvo wouldn't have said 10 years on the aux instead of only stating 150K as they did. It's an expensive service and I'm at 122K right now. Here I was thinking I've got a little more time to go.
Yeah, poor choice of words, I shouldn't have said "timing" because it's not a timing belt and there is no time limitation, just miles, lol. The 150k mile interval and no time limit question maybe is based on the construction of the belt itself though only an engineer would know really.
 
My dealer said 110k miles was the interval for the aux belt and pulleys. I did it a bit early. I actually don't have a book for mine, they lost it when I bought the car and gave me a 2011 book, mine is a 2009, with the 3.2.

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You can download the 2009 manual on the Volvo app.
https://www.volvocars.com/lb/support/downloads/manual-app

I have a 2008 T6, and the closest manual I can download is 2009. The recommendation in the manual for the Aux belt, pulleys, and alternator coupler is 150k miles

You can save some money, buy the parts from FCP and have any competent mechanic do the labor. ISomeone familiar with Volvo is probably helpful, but not necessarily required. In VIDA it looks pretty straight forward, but appears to be pretty labor intensive, similar in time to a timing belt on many cars. That's where much of your cost comes from.

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Dealing with this now. 2009 S80 V8. Idler exploded at 97k 11 years old. My wife lost power steering, electrical charging, and water pump all at the same time. She got so many messages she didn't know what to do but she was in line to pick my daughter up at school. Ended up blowing antifreeze all over the ground and overheating the engine a bit. Not sure if there is permanent damage yet until I repair it and get it back together. Had to have the car towed home. Currently struggling to remove the lower idler bolt due to the proximity of the frame rail not providing clearance to remove bolt. Is there a write up on this? There is a hole in the frame in the perfect spot for the bolt to pass into but the flange head on the bolt is too large in diameter to fit into the hole. Im sure someone here has experienced this. Wish I had done this job last year at 10 years to prevent this. Hopefully the engine is not cooked. How does the V8 hold up to a bad day like this?
 
It would be so nice if that hole would line up, but as you have seen it doesn`t. Save yourself a lot of frustration, take the right wheel off and remove the plastic inner fender. It`s just held in by plastic nuts you can almost turn by hand. Because when you try to get the serpentine belt around the crankshaft pulley, unless your super lucky and you have space between the pulley and the motor mount, you need to loosen the bolts on that motor mount and jack the engine up ½ inch so you can slip the belt onto the pulley. Also with the inner fender removed you have access to that hole and can take a drill with a small grinding bit and enlarge the hole to remove that bolt through. You could also use a hand file. Here`s a pic of the crankshaft pulley and it`s proximity to the subframe. Also here is a good writeup on replacing the belt.
https://forums.swedespeed.com/showt...ntine-Belt-Tensioner-amp-Idler-Pulleys-Replacement&highlight=serpentine+belt+v8

 
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