[Paradox]

I would also think the Google map feature on the driver display would get old after a while.

Doesn't matter unless you're willing to spend a lot of cash to keep it activated past the trial. Once the trial is up, it defaults back to the 'cartoonish' map and not the satellite imaging view. I got rid of my Q7 some time ago but I wasn't sorry to see it go. It wasn't a bad car, just not to my liking. And I agree with the person who said things look too busy in the cockpit. I hated the way things were done with that touchpad and dial in the center console as well as the pop up screen. What was nice was how you could do most of what was done in the center screen right in the instrument cluster using the steering wheel controls. Still, I prefer Sensus. I had problems up the butt with Sensus in my 2016 First Edition but I have to say, knock on wood, in my 2018 XC60 Sensus has been stable as could be and quite snappier as well. It basically now functions how I expected it would have back when I got my First Edition.

 

[OURDESIGN]

I've seen them. Hard to tell from the pics but looks like there's no MMI screen on dash. BMW was much further into their generation then the Q7 so I don't see a complete redesign coming anytime soon.

Normally BMW keeps their X5 designs out for 6-7 years, with this last generation they only went from 2014-2018, which is short. I doubt Audi will make major changes before 2020. Off topic statement: I hope Volvo doesn't do what they did with there XC90 first gen. and use the same design for upwards of 12 years.

I'm well aware of the length of generations of BMW and Audi. X5 was 5 yrs in and Audi has just released yr 4. No major changes before 2020 but time for a facelift which may introduce the updated interior with the release of 20/21. That's close enough for me to skip the G05 and pick up a V90 or E350.

 

[drmanny3]

Audi Owner complains about brake squeal! Sound Familiar?

2018 Q7 has high pitched brake squeal while backing & gradual braking. Audi USA and the dealership claim this is "normal". When I said; "To who?" they replied Audi is working on a fix but no time table is available. OK, so it's not normal then. Audi insults my intelligence by saying this is normal. HP brakes do make some noise, but constant squealing is not normal on a street car. The dealer said no inspection is necessary, that they already know about the problem. I insisted that they inspect the brakes, if not for safety alone. I asked the service writer if this has been an ongoing issue with this model, why were we not told that from the salesman when we were inquiring about the car. She said: "They can't if you know what I mean". After visiting the dealer I contacted Audi USA and opened a case for my complaint. I told them that I appreciated the fact that Audi was working on a solution, but I am not going to wait an indefinite amount of time for a fix. Additionally, I have no intention of purchasing another Audi because of their dishonest sales approach. I said I want to turn the car back in. Audi USA instructed me to go see the GM at the dealership where I bought it. That is my next step toward resolution to my problem. I intentionally omitted the dealership name until I give them the chance to make this right. So at this point, I only know two things; 1) I will be successful turning the car back to Audi 2) I will never again purchase an Audi product. Thanks for reading.

- Kevin H., Los Angeles, US

​

 

[OURDESIGN]

2018 Q7 has high pitched brake squeal while backing & gradual braking. Audi USA and the dealership claim this is "normal". When I said; "To who?" they replied Audi is working on a fix but no time table is available. OK, so it's not normal then. Audi insults my intelligence by saying this is normal. HP brakes do make some noise, but constant squealing is not normal on a street car. The dealer said no inspection is necessary, that they already know about the problem. I insisted that they inspect the brakes, if not for safety alone. I asked the service writer if this has been an ongoing issue with this model, why were we not told that from the salesman when we were inquiring about the car. She said: "They can't if you know what I mean". After visiting the dealer I contacted Audi USA and opened a case for my complaint. I told them that I appreciated the fact that Audi was working on a solution, but I am not going to wait an indefinite amount of time for a fix. Additionally, I have no intention of purchasing another Audi because of their dishonest sales approach. I said I want to turn the car back in. Audi USA instructed me to go see the GM at the dealership where I bought it. That is my next step toward resolution to my problem. I intentionally omitted the dealership name until I give them the chance to make this right. So at this point, I only know two things; 1) I will be successful turning the car back to Audi 2) I will never again purchase an Audi product. Thanks for reading.

- Kevin H., Los Angeles, US

​

Do a search for brake squeal and you're sure to find hundreds for every manufacturer. It's not uncommon and is usually fixed by using a pad with a different brake compound or simply applying a paste on the rear of the pads.

As far as the salesman not disclosing that's ridiculous. Next time use Google.

 

[likeXC90]

The longer I have the XC90, the more gimmicky and overbusy a lot of other design look.

+1
Every time I see interiors of Audi, BMW, etc as well as non-luxury cars I cringe at how unduly "messy" they are.
Volvo's interior (and exterior) designs are brainwashing me to appreciate simple, understated yet humbly confident and functional elegance . . . (Did I just write that?)

 

[smerf001]

+1
Every time I see interiors of Audi, BMW, etc as well as non-luxury cars I cringe at how unduly "messy" they are.
Volvo's interior (and exterior) designs are brainwashing me to appreciate simple, understated yet humbly confident and functional elegance . . . (Did I just right that?)

Agreed! I was very close to getting the Q7, and before I made my decision it was a tough call. Now that I have my XC90, when I see the Q7 on the road it looks more and more like a station wagon, and when I pull up next to one at a light I really feel "higher" up compared to the Q7 driver (important to me). The Q7 interior looks almost archaic compared to the simplistic luxury of our XC90 cabin. The only gripe with the XC90 interior are the HVAC vents; I wish it had the more updated look that is now found in all of its stablemates (XC60,40 S90,60, etc.), and the Q7 vents have a more interesting look, however overall it is a minor thing to compromise on. Plus the XC90 has so much useful storage! I have multiple places to place my phone (important to me), plus drinks, plus other chachkis. When I was test driving the Q7, the tiny useless storage spot under the HVAC controls couldn't fit anything other than loose change, and the cupholders were tiny and couldn't fit my phone (or a larger drink), I did like the rubberized bin in front of the armrest, but for quick glances at a phone or something similar it was not effective. When it came down to really using the car and getting enjoyment out of the car, the XC90 soared over the Q7. (I don't really use my 3rd row, maybe twice a year, so the electric 3rd row, although convenient, is not important to me).
I'm just loving the XC90! I think even now, after its been out a good few years, it still is the top choice over the Q7 and the horrendous looking new X5/X7. It doesn't look like its been out a long time either, esp. the way I configured mine. Way to keep it classy Volvo

 

[Zahra]

I like the air vents of the XC90 as they are, the ones in the newer models are to flashy for my taste.
But the Q7's wide, central slit-shaped air vent seems like a very interesting feature that
may avoid some/much cold air stream on the driver and passenger.
The design goals of different manufacturers may reflect cultural differences.
I am a (big) fan of scandinavian minimalistic-functional design.
Other manufacturers seem to design (more) to evoke awe (and less for functionality?),
but (@ Shania Twain), it don't impress me much

 

[volvoxc9008]

Agreed! I was very close to getting the Q7, and before I made my decision it was a tough call. Now that I have my XC90, when I see the Q7 on the road it looks more and more like a station wagon, and when I pull up next to one at a light I really feel "higher" up compared to the Q7 driver (important to me). The Q7 interior looks almost archaic compared to the simplistic luxury of our XC90 cabin. The only gripe with the XC90 interior are the HVAC vents; I wish it had the more updated look that is now found in all of its stablemates (XC60,40 S90,60, etc.), and the Q7 vents have a more interesting look, however overall it is a minor thing to compromise on. Plus the XC90 has so much useful storage! I have multiple places to place my phone (important to me), plus drinks, plus other chachkis. When I was test driving the Q7, the tiny useless storage spot under the HVAC controls couldn't fit anything other than loose change, and the cupholders were tiny and couldn't fit my phone (or a larger drink), I did like the rubberized bin in front of the armrest, but for quick glances at a phone or something similar it was not effective. When it came down to really using the car and getting enjoyment out of the car, the XC90 soared over the Q7. (I don't really use my 3rd row, maybe twice a year, so the electric 3rd row, although convenient, is not important to me).
I'm just loving the XC90! I think even now, after its been out a good few years, it still is the top choice over the Q7 and the horrendous looking new X5/X7. It doesn't look like its been out a long time either, esp. the way I configured mine. Way to keep it classy Volvo

Agreed the vents on the s90 and xc60 are so aesthetically pleasing. The XC90 ones feel average.

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[GlobalServices]

Cross Shopped Q7, XC90. RXL

Hi! Just joined and just bought my first Volvo! Our family just cross shopped Q7, XC90. RXL. Many things have already been mentioned so below is some things that made the decision for me.

RXL was no go as 3rd row is unusable. We can cross that out easily.

The Q7 is great, but to me the MMI setup in that vehicle seems a bit dated and the screen is tiny. It reminds me of my 2005 A6 from back in the day. Also no brake hold! Audi left a blank button where it should go. Our RX has 12.3inch display! Finally, the Q7 third row is not as usable as the XC.

BUT the biggest NO for us was, to get the Pilot Assist equivalent I had to step up to Premium Plus or Prestige. Also the dealers where I live only seem to stock 3.0 and not 2.0 adding $5,000+. On the XC I can get all the safety and driving aids on the T5 Momentum. Also did I mention that we got a 2018 left over XC90, so got a fair deal. (I think the XC90 sells so well you can't really get a great deal haha). Regardless, saved about $15,000 over a Q7 3.0 with Driver Assistance and Cold Weather. Promise I am not a cheapskate!!! It was more value for money decision.

This will be our first Volvo! I hope with model year 2018 most bugs and reliability issues have worked out. A little scared from reading the threads. Maybe should have leased...haha

 

[VolvoUhu]

We had cross shopped the Q7 in 2010 when we were looking at options and realizing the XC90 was even then a better option. The Q7 seems to have always had a cramped 3rd row (same platform as a Pepper/Touareg without getting a stretch job to squeeze the 3rd row in), the 2nd row was narrower than the XC90 then as well, it felt heavy around town compared to the 2010 XC90 with the flip side being the Q7 felt more like a highway cruiser. I'm not sure how they are now, but I recall the really astonishing bit then was that the 3rd row was so cramped, the headrests touched the tailgate glass. There was no way that was going to be a viable option for us. Plus for 80% of driving it felt cumbersome (around town and parking) vs. the more nimble XC90.

Going into our 2017 shopping, we didn't even consider a Q7 with a T8 being the main contender (over a V90CC). Our experiences with our 2010 made it such that a second XC90 was a no brainer.

As for new Q7... they do make great spontaneous garage smokers

It had been parked all day and unattended when it created some chaos close to the end of the work day. The sprinkler system in the garage and fast response from the fire dept kept it from doing it's job at torching the rest of the garage and the building above. It took the fire dept two engines more than 1hr to extinguish it - the hardest part was probably getting to it through the thick smoke it created. Its non-hybrid 3.0T wanted to burn badly I suppose and did a good job at melting a hole through its hood (must be a highly combustible composite ). It took another 2+ hrs before the garage cleared of smoke and firefighters could give the "all clear" for people to come back in to go home. I couldn't get out as the hoses were already laid down and fire dept was preventing cars from driving out (over their hoses) so had to park and walk out. Smoke was thick and impossible to see through and my throat remained irritated for a couple of days.

 

[jtriebe]

I've owned lots of German cars, mainly Porsche, BMW and most recently Audi and owned a 2015 Q7. I shopped the 2017 Q7 and found it had less storage space than the 2015. It seemed as though Audi had forgotten the U in SUV is Utility. I then looked at the 2017 XC90, fell in love, and have never looked back. This is my first Volvo, but not my last. I did OSD, had an amazing time and now I'm at over 20,000 miles so far and still look forward to driving my XC90.

 

[volvoxc9008]

We had cross shopped the Q7 in 2010 when we were looking at options and realizing the XC90 was even then a better option. The Q7 seems to have always had a cramped 3rd row (same platform as a Pepper/Touareg without getting a stretch job to squeeze the 3rd row in), the 2nd row was narrower than the XC90 then as well, it felt heavy around town compared to the 2010 XC90 with the flip side being the Q7 felt more like a highway cruiser. I'm not sure how they are now, but I recall the really astonishing bit then was that the 3rd row was so cramped, the headrests touched the tailgate glass. There was no way that was going to be a viable option for us. Plus for 80% of driving it felt cumbersome (around town and parking) vs. the more nimble XC90.

Going into our 2017 shopping, we didn't even consider a Q7 with a T8 being the main contender (over a V90CC). Our experiences with our 2010 made it such that a second XC90 was a no brainer.

As for new Q7... they do make great spontaneous garage smokers

It had been parked all day and unattended when it created some chaos close to the end of the work day. The sprinkler system in the garage and fast response from the fire dept kept it from doing it's job at torching the rest of the garage and the building above. It took the fire dept two engines more than 1hr to extinguish it - the hardest part was probably getting to it through the thick smoke it created. Its non-hybrid 3.0T wanted to burn badly I suppose and did a good job at melting a hole through its hood (must be a highly combustible composite ). It took another 2+ hrs before the garage cleared of smoke and firefighters could give the "all clear" for people to come back in to go home. I couldn't get out as the hoses were already laid down and fire dept was preventing cars from driving out (over their hoses) so had to park and walk out. Smoke was thick and impossible to see through and my throat remained irritated for a couple of days.

Oh my god I wonder what caused it to ignite a fire.

 

[OURDESIGN]

They may just do an early re-design like BMW did with the new X5, since the previous one got outdated fast. Especially since Audi never changes their interiors drastically on facelifts. There have already been pictures of the face-lifted Audi Q7 and the changes look minor. Updated headlights and grille, however the tail lights are the exact same and lidar system in the grille.

As I was stating above and im not surprised.
Q7 will get the Q8 interior in 2020.
Here I come Audi.

 

[volvoxc9008]

As I was stating above and im not surprised.
Q7 will get the Q8 interior in 2020.
Here I come Audi.

Oouuu I guess you were right

 

[OURDESIGN]

We had cross shopped the Q7 in 2010 when we were looking at options and realizing the XC90 was even then a better option. The Q7 seems to have always had a cramped 3rd row (same platform as a Pepper/Touareg without getting a stretch job to squeeze the 3rd row in), the 2nd row was narrower than the XC90 then as well, it felt heavy around town compared to the 2010 XC90 with the flip side being the Q7 felt more like a highway cruiser. I'm not sure how they are now, but I recall the really astonishing bit then was that the 3rd row was so cramped, the headrests touched the tailgate glass. There was no way that was going to be a viable option for us. Plus for 80% of driving it felt cumbersome (around town and parking) vs. the more nimble XC90.

Going into our 2017 shopping, we didn't even consider a Q7 with a T8 being the main contender (over a V90CC). Our experiences with our 2010 made it such that a second XC90 was a no brainer.

As for new Q7... they do make great spontaneous garage smokers

Is this a serious post? You didnt consider a new Q7 because the one you looked at in 2010 didnt meet your needs? WTF?
The Q7 has more passenger room than the XC90 in almost every category.
https://www.truedelta.com/Audi-Q7-vs-Volvo-XC90-specs-comparison,15-292

 

[VolvoUhu]

Is this a serious post? You didnt consider a new Q7 because the one you looked at in 2010 didnt meet your needs? WTF?
The Q7 has more passenger room than the XC90 in almost every category.
https://www.truedelta.com/Audi-Q7-vs-Volvo-XC90-specs-comparison,15-292

Of course it is - why would you deem it not? You seem aggrieved by the fact a Q7 wasn't on our list of considerations for us when deciding on a new car. It seems pretty ignorant to diminish/dismiss someone else's personal decisions and experiences because they wouldn't consider your own - I would hope more would have open mindsets than you exhibit in your reply. Yes, we had implicit bias given how much we're still enjoying our 2010 XC90, plus now having the T8 there's no doubt.

Yes, in 2010 we looked at options that included Q7, Toureg, Pepper (we had already driven several Peppers as loaner cars), and very briefly considered minivans but didn't bother. The real contenders in the end came down to XC90 and Q7 (as a foil/chance to pressure test the XC90 as the final choice). After checking out a Q7 and driving it, our decision to go with a 2010 XC90 was solidified (plus it didn't help the Audi dealer in the area were a-holes).

Fast forward to 2017, we bought a second a second XC90 because of the great experiences we have had with our 2010. Feel free to look through the long history of posts I've made over the years and you'll see the amazing sites our XC90 has taken us to, in comfort, safety and trouble free with great dealer support along the way. The Q7 didn't even hit our radar as a consideration. Based even on posts and others experiences here, I don't even regret not looking at Q7 - still seems cramped, 3rd row has proved to be an important feature for us and to this day there are countless mentions of how cramped the Q7 3rd row is. Still, leading up to our 2017 order/purchase, we started thinking small (replacing our V40 as a local runabout/commuter) and had looked at V60, E350 Wagon, Macan, Pepper, and V90CC. Of the small vehicle options, the V60 was the most roomy across the back seat and fit 3 seats across it's bench. As much as I wanted to get a E350, it was uncomfortably cramped in the back. Macan was a blast but was the worst of them, the 3rd seat literally hung out of the side. In the end it came down to V90CC or XC90T8. T8 and the fact we made a decision while on our Christmas tree run with Overlanding friends and went through 40"+ of fresh powder climbing to over 5000ft off road, having a second tow car, were all factors that gave the XC the nod. While we've not seriously overlanded yet with our T8, we've already towed more than 3000miles (in less than 13000 miles since new), a few times even will carrying 7 onboard (my wife and her mom in the 3rd row, dad in the front with me and kids in the 2nd row and everyone was happy and comfortable. It's exceeding our expectations as an XC90 and since new our MPG is now over 42mpg and in spite of the towing! I love my commute with it in 100% electric and that we're unlimited for road-trips.

That our thought process or the choices we evaluated earn your derision gives me no regret. The T8 is amazing and is suiting our needs perfectly and we expect it will continue to do so in the future.

 

[volvoxc9008]

Yes, in 2010 we looked at options that included Q7, Toureg, Pepper (we had already driven several Peppers as loaner cars),

What is a pepper??

 

[VolvoUhu]

What is a pepper??

aka Cayenne... in Porsche circles it's a Pepper.

 

[GrecianVolvo]

Off topic statement: I hope Volvo doesn't do what they did with there XC90 first gen. and use the same design for upwards of 12 years.

I can assure you that this will not happen again.

 

[OURDESIGN]

Is this a serious post? You didnt consider a new Q7 because the one you looked at in 2010 didnt meet your needs? WTF?
The Q7 has more passenger room than the XC90 in almost every category.
https://www.truedelta.com/Audi-Q7-vs-Volvo-XC90-specs-comparison,15-292

Of course it is - why would you deem it not? You seem aggrieved by the fact a Q7 wasn't on our list of considerations for us when deciding on a new car. It seems pretty ignorant to diminish/dismiss someone else's personal decisions and experiences because they wouldn't consider your own - I would hope more would have open mindsets than you exhibit in your reply. Yes, we had implicit bias given how much we're still enjoying our 2010 XC90, plus now having the T8 there's no doubt.

Yes, in 2010 we looked at options that included Q7, Toureg, Pepper (we had already driven several Peppers as loaner cars), and very briefly considered minivans but didn't bother. The real contenders in the end came down to XC90 and Q7 (as a foil/chance to pressure test the XC90 as the final choice). After checking out a Q7 and driving it, our decision to go with a 2010 XC90 was solidified (plus it didn't help the Audi dealer in the area were a-holes).

Fast forward to 2017, we bought a second a second XC90 because of the great experiences we have had with our 2010. Feel free to look through the long history of posts I've made over the years and you'll see the amazing sites our XC90 has taken us to, in comfort, safety and trouble free with great dealer support along the way. The Q7 didn't even hit our radar as a consideration. Based even on posts and others experiences here, I don't even regret not looking at Q7 - still seems cramped, 3rd row has proved to be an important feature for us and to this day there are countless mentions of how cramped the Q7 3rd row is. Still, leading up to our 2017 order/purchase, we started thinking small (replacing our V40 as a local runabout/commuter) and had looked at V60, E350 Wagon, Macan, Pepper, and V90CC. Of the small vehicle options, the V60 was the most roomy across the back seat and fit 3 seats across it's bench. As much as I wanted to get a E350, it was uncomfortably cramped in the back. Macan was a blast but was the worst of them, the 3rd seat literally hung out of the side. In the end it came down to V90CC or XC90T8. T8 and the fact we made a decision while on our Christmas tree run with Overlanding friends and went through 40"+ of fresh powder climbing to over 5000ft off road, having a second tow car, were all factors that gave the XC the nod. While we've not seriously overlanded yet with our T8, we've already towed more than 3000miles (in less than 13000 miles since new), a few times even will carrying 7 onboard (my wife and her mom in the 3rd row, dad in the front with me and kids in the 2nd row and everyone was happy and comfortable. It's exceeding our expectations as an XC90 and since new our MPG is now over 42mpg and in spite of the towing! I love my commute with it in 100% electric and that we're unlimited for road-trips.

That our thought process or the choices we evaluated earn your derision gives me no regret. The T8 is amazing and is suiting our needs perfectly and we expect it will continue to do so in the future.

Only thing ignorant is basing your opinion on a vehicle because you drove the previous generation 7 years ago.
The rest of your post just shows you're long winded and self righteous so none of your other posts will have any value to me.