This is what he said...
LOL! The 850 T5/T5R/R models are the *worst* handling performance cars of the modern era (possibly excluding the Saab Viggen), and the T4 comes close.
I've killed many Volvo Turbos in the twisties, they have so little grip and they roll quite a bit too. Another problem is that when you try to accelerate out from the corner when the car is still turning, you get horrible wheelspin and massive understeer. Extremely safe, but not very much fun..
But their engines are quite powerful and the straight line performance is good, except when accelerating from standstill where the lack of traction is a great problem. It is just that I enjoy more driving the twisty back roads than doing stoplight duels.
But perhaps you have learned to enjoy more about smokin' the front wheels and "understeer everywhere"-type handling?
I bet ya ten he's never beaten or probably faced a turbo 850.
An 850 Turbo with very nice, slick, tires on it, will not have a hard time out performing a BMW, Audi *non-quattro*, any Mercedes... including CLK 55!!!!
I've been in the car with my dad when he's raced and beaten the BMW 3 series(One older model M3 starting from highway speeds), older Mustang 5.0's, Audi's, even once barely a Porsche Boxster, and those little hopped up Honda cars.