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In the recent addition of Consumer Reports<BR>BMW 330, MB C320, Lexus IS300, Acura TL,<BR>Saab 9/3 and one other(?) plus the Volvo<BR>2.4T (not the T5 !!) were compared. Our<BR>car finished next to last just ahead of the Saab. Though the 2.4 is a great car, I<BR>think that CR did Volvo a great injustice<BR>by not rating the T5 with this bunch. The<BR>reviewer even stated that he couldn't feel<BR>any difference in the accelleration from<BR>the 2.4 vs. T5. Why would such a 'prestig-<BR>ious' magazine blow it and not even gather<BR>maker's cars with the most similar perfor-<BR>mance, power and price? Read the review for<BR>yourself and draw your own conclusions. <BR>Just a bum rap for Volvo---makes me skeptical<BR>of this magazine's ways and means.
 

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What were the categories that were compared? Price? Acceleration?<P>All of those cars are great, and each one apeals to a slightly different sub group within that market. I really don't see the usefullness of the car comparisons that you see in consumer magazines. Especially when they usually make a table of all the hp/torque/acceleration data that you could have made yourself. I doubt that they really drive those cars enough to form an informed opinion, especially since they borrowed them. <P>Seems to me that spending $30k - $40k for any car is a big enough decision to warant actually driving each one yourself and having more of a conviction with regard to your own taste. Cars have more of a subjective element than do washing machines or blenders.<P>If I purchaced an S60 without the help of magazine, I would still either love it, hate it, or be indifferent, all as a function of my own taste. You can bet that I will have spent more than 30 minutes in each car before deciding on one.<P>Those magazine articles are very good for passing time on the crapper, or in the barber shop.<P>
 

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Thanks Washington---for your comments. CR<BR>might have compared the 2.4T with the BMW<BR>325, MB C240 and perhaps others. Throwing<BR>the 2.4T in there with the BMW 330, and MB<BR>C320 was not apples to apples. The T5 needed<BR>to be there. Irregardless of how CR felt <BR>these cars should be ranked/rated against<BR>each, the comparison was flawed from the beginning because CR did not select the<BR>T5----they chose the downscaled 2.4T (price<BR>& performance) and cast it against the 'big<BR>boys'. .02<BR>
 

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You are correct. If they were comparing them for performance, there is no doubt that the T5 should have been chosen. I noticed that the Volvo and Saab were the only sub-200hp cars in the group, and the only turbos. I would bet that the reporter assumed that the presence of a turbo made the swedes "high performance". I would also bet that (s)he doesn't know how or why a turbo is different, when and where it excells (overtaking), or that there is a tradeoff between boost and spoolup time.<P>Ignore CR. We drive em because we love em. BTW, Does the 3 series have rear head restraints yet? How about the two japanese cars? Not exactly the most important thing, just an example of where volvo puts its emphasis. Details count with regard to safety.<P>
 

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Puff----its a great car you've ordered. Just<BR>curious about the reversing radar. Is that a<BR>Volvo option or after market? Who is the<BR>manufacturer of the radar? Thanks.
 

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Bobmac:<P>I ordered the Volvo revesing radar to be installed when the car is delivered. I do not know who actually manufactures it, but it is costing me about $425.00 painted and installed. THe actual item price is $325.00.<P>I got it mainly due to my wife, she is about 5'2" tall and said she would be more comfortable with the reversing aid. I assume I will also find it to be handy in tight parking situations.<P>I will post how it works when I actually get to drive my car in about three weeks.<P>
 

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I didn't think much of the review myself. I have subscribed to CR for many years and have used it many times to help decide on purchases.<BR>I was disappointed with the review and it helped put CR into perspective for me (in the process they lost a little credibility with me) By not testing the T5 it wasn't a level playing field. And they mentioned it several times about the single source button audio control being difficult and requiring you to take your eyes off the road. Two minutes of familiarity with the system will prove it to be better than searching for which preset station button to push, where the button is to go from AM/FM, or the other button to go from radio to CD player. . . I'm glad I bought mine before the reivew, otherwise I might have been influenced negatively.
 

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I really don't like CS when it comes to car stuff either...<P>I remember when my mom was buying an SUV in the early 90s (I was 12 or 13 and the blazer was one of my fav cars and was really pushing for the blazer) and CS has an article on the new SUVs and totally trashed the Blazer and loved the Explorer. Who are you going to listen to, a 12 year old or CS? Weeeell... she went with the explorer and of course about a month later all the big car mags, MT C&D ect.. came out with suv tests. With the Blazer beating the Explorer. (we later had tranny problems... lets just say we don't own an explorer any more and I can say I told you so <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif">) <P>--Austin
 
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