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Yesterday around 5:30 pm in San Antonio's medical center I rolled up on a accident during rush hour on one of our busiest streets. I am an EMT/Firefighter but usually do not stop at accidents unless they are pretty bad or there is potential for the accident to become to accidents (ie cars are out in the middle of thew road) <p>anyways make the story a lil shorter<p>Saw a late model Jeep Wrangler demolished from the front end, occupants ok but complaining of minor neck pain. The other vehicle was an '03 XC90 no joke only a dent on the door (mind you a rather large one) but that was it....should've taken photos.<p>Just thought I would share that with yall...
 

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Re: XC90 VS Jeep Wrangler (Copeland)

Two weeks ago, we were involved in a highway collision with our XC90 taking the brunt of the impacts, initiated by a reckless driver, yet it powered through and carried us to safety. Considering the forces sustained at impact, cosmetically (and compared to other vehicles involved), damage did not look that extensive (save for a shattered wheel); unfortunately, our 2006 with only 4300 miles has been written off as a total and we can not find a like replacement as it appears we must wait until the 2007s begin arriving.<p>I have never been through a serious vehicle collision prior, but were I to attempt to describe it I would have to say the air bags so totally envelope the passenger and the seat belt restraints hold one so securely, it is almost like being transported though the collision without being forced to fully experience the trauma of it. I have heard of like situations wherein air bags have caused injuries but nothing remotely associated was the case. <p>As the car came to a controlled halt, I turned around and saw our Golden Retriever standing on the back seat, nervous but unharmed … if we must wait until July for a replacement seeing her unharmed was testimony Volvo is a wonderful company to dedicate so much attention to safety.<p>It was our second XC90 and anxiously await number three and will not feel comfortable traveling until it arrives.<br>
 

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Re: XC90 VS Jeep Wrangler (CandaceMatthessohn)

You wouldn't have happened to be the same person described in this thread, would you? (About 1/2 way down.)<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=56231" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=56231</A><p>Glad to hear that you are ok. Makes me feel even better about putting my wife and kids in our new XC90 (we leave for Sweden on Sunday).<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by Veilig at 9:07 PM 4-20-2006</i>
 

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Re: XC90 VS Jeep Wrangler (Copeland)

On any other forum, when you see a "vs" in the topic it refers to a street race. Only in a Volvo forum would it refer to which vehicle performed best in a traffic accident. <p>Glad to hear everyone was okay.
 

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Re: XC90 VS Jeep Wrangler (mkaresh)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mkaresh</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Glad to hear everyone was okay.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Agreed. Always nice to know everybody is OK.<p>I'm sure on the volvo R forum, the 'vs' is still used for what we really think.<p>On a side note, and I'm not trying to downplay volvo safety, keep in mind, that in every one of these recent accidents posts I can recall, everybody has been OK, including the occupants of the OTHER vehicles. I personally think that is what's truly awesome. Not that one car did better than another. Most likely we do owe that to Volvo since they started the whole 'take safety seriously' craze.<p>The above post with the dog? Worst damage was a shattered wheel? Dog didn't get thrown all the way forward? To me, doesn't sound like a very serious accident. Makes me think that had they been in another other equivalent SUV, they'd be posting the same story on some other board. Trying to determine which car performed 'best' in an accident is truly hard. Who T-boned who? Depends on where the two or more cars collide. Jeep with a demolished front end and the >>occupants ok but complaining of minor neck pain<<. I wonder if they're posting the same story on the jeep forum.<p>And comparing a car's safety by how much gets crumpled is also dangerous. Front ends now are designed to crumple easily and absorb the crash. The sides of the cars still need to be very very strong as there's so much less room to absorb the crash.<p>
 

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Re: XC90 VS Jeep Wrangler (Veilig)

>You wouldn't have happened to be the same person described in this<br>>thread, would you? (About 1/2 way down.)<br>>http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=56231<p>Yes! Thank you for directing me to the above. I responded to the posting: <A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=56231&page=2" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/z...age=2</A><p>--<p>>On a side note, and I'm not trying to downplay volvo safety, keep in<br>> mind, that in every one of these recent accidents posts I can recall, <br>>everybody has been OK, including the occupants of the OTHER vehicles. I<br>> personally think that is what's truly awesome. Not that one car did<br>> better than another. Most likely we do owe that to Volvo since they<br>> started the whole 'take safety seriously' craze.<p>Unfortunately, despite being initially told there were no serious injuries to passengers in other vehicles (some did leave the scene in ambulances), it appears this is not the case though I have seen no specific details other than those appending the police report regarding more than one individual.<p>>The above post with the dog? Worst damage was a shattered wheel?<br>> Dog didn't get thrown all the way forward? To me, doesn't sound like a <br>>very serious accident. Makes me think that had they been in another<br>>other equivalent SUV, they'd be posting the same story on some other<br>> board. Trying to determine which car performed 'best' in an accident is<br>> truly hard. Who T-boned who? Depends on where the two or more cars<br>> collide. <p>I was misleading in portraying the worst damage a shattered wheel as it would have been more appropriate to say it was the most graphic, in my opinion; it was also the result of a secondary impact. Initial impact was our front-right to immediately behind the Cadillac’s left-front wheel.<br> <br>With all vehicles traveling at highway speeds, I am certain our Golden Retriever was violently tossed from her sleeping position, stretched out on a "Critter Cover" on the backseat seconds before impact. Being unrestrained - we have yet to find a restraint system which would protect a dog in a collision without denying freedom of movement (this included querying Volvo) - we take the small precaution of loading items onto the rear passenger floor; thus allowing a larger platform and preventing her falling from rear seat to floor in the event of hard braking.<br> <br>As I mentioned in replying to another post, initial impact was to our right-front, which then sent us into the cement center divider (this shattered the left rear wheel); our Golden may have benefited from the full curtain airbags.<br> <br>For background, according to the police report, the impact severely damaged the Cadillac with its firewall (?) protruding one foot into passenger compartment along with a like intrusion at the back as it struck our right-rear bumper upon going into a spin.<br> <br>The impact was severe enough to shatter both our side mirrors despite housing of said mirrors not being damaged.<p>I offer the above solely to allow a better informed evaluation as I am certainly not in a position to do so and, at the time of impact, was not in a position to be a witness. <p>Worthy of note, two California Highway Patrol officers took time to share their experiences over the years and offered when coming upon a collision involving one or more vehicles, at seeing a Volvo is involved they have come to assume the occupants of the Volvo will be the ones to walk away. The officers went on to say, in their belief, the XC90 exemplifies this commitment to safety.<br> <br>I took a couple quick photos at the crash scene if of any value.<p>For me, right or wrong, seeing ourselves and Golden Retriever come through the incident unharmed leaves me a believer of Volvo’s commitment to safety.<br>
 

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Re: XC90 VS Jeep Wrangler (CandaceMatthessohn)

Thanks for providing this information. It's the prerogative of anyone to drive what they choose. Like you, we chose a Volvo. I've driven a lot of different types of cars and SUV's and I've never felt safer in a Volvo. What sold me and my wife was our salesman (a somewhat young and 'enthusiastic' fellow) who started doing serious (<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">) lane change maneuvers at 60 mph on a deserted four-lane street. Hearing the brakes actuate individually just when the car seemed to be coming unstuck at the rear end was one of the most influential sales pitches we'd ever experienced. We hope we'll never need such capabilities, but it's reassuring to know they're there.<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> for Volvo. Now if they'd only license Toyota's synergy drive.....
 

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Re: XC90 VS Jeep Wrangler (safetyfirst)

Wow... I never believed that I would be talking about my own accident (however minor) on here but to see those crumple zones in action was quite amazing and I will continue to instill my trust in my s80<p>Pictures within:<br><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=57915" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=57915</A><br>
 

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Re: XC90 VS Jeep Wrangler (Copeland)

There are no crumple zones on the sides of a car. What you see is just the outer door "skin" folding because of the impact; it is not an engineered crumple zone as can be found in the front and rear of the car.
 

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Re: XC90 VS Jeep Wrangler (Geniusjustin)

<p>True, they are not crumple zones, but they are reinforced to avoid intrusion. Have you ever noticed<br>how thick Volvo doors are? That is why the cars always have that bulge look.
 

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Re: XC90 VS Jeep Wrangler (dmd)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>dmd</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Have you ever noticed how thick Volvo doors are? That is why the cars always have that bulge look.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>This was one of the first things I noticed when we test-drove the XC90 (our first Volvo). In comparison, our previous Camry (RIP) had doors that were half as thick -- if that much...
 
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