SwedeSpeed - Volvo Performance Forum banner
1 - 10 of 10 Posts

·
Registered
Joined
·
2 Posts
Discussion Starter · #1 ·
My wife and kids were on their way to summer camp when they were hit from behind. My wife was fully stopped but the force of the collision (the Benz that hit her was doing 35-40) pushed her 2004 XC90 into the car in front of her. Luckily, everyone appears to be in good shape with the biggest injury being a bruise on my oldest son's head. Thanks Volvo.<p>The car has a lot of damage (initial estimate is >$19K) but I want to make sure the repair shop is looking at everything so if anyone can shed some light on the following questions it would be greatly appreciated.<p>1) The car's computer is reporting "Anti-skid" temporarily disabled. What system(s) should I make sure the shop checks?<p>2) The computer is also reporting Low Battery; I assume the battery could have been damaged in the crash. Any other concerns?<p>3) How can you know if the WHIPS system activated? What needs to be done to a seat that has been activated?<p>4) Anything else I should have investigated that might not be obvious<p>Thanks in advance for any information that you can provide.<p>-Scott<p><i>Modified by jss at 6:54 AM 8-13-2006</i><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by jss at 6:56 AM 8-13-2006</i>
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
1,743 Posts
Re: XC90 rear-ended, some questions (jss)

Good to hear the family is ok. What did your son hit his head on? Stories like yours are very good to hear. <p>Was your son in the third row by chance?<p>#1, no clue<p>#2, considering the battery is in the rear, I'm sure the cable shorted or something similar.<p>#3, Pretty sure a WHIPS seat has to be replaced if it "activated".<p>If the initial estimate is over 19k, I'm sure as things are taken apart, the amount will get higher very quickly. Has the word totalled been mentioned?<p>Tim <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
371 Posts
Re: XC90 rear-ended, some questions (jss)

I'd make sure the shop is a certified Volvo shop. If not, demand that they take it to a Volvo repair shop. Too many systems, many unique to Volvo, for an unexperienced shop to cut their teeth on.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
51 Posts
Re: XC90 rear-ended, some questions (jss)

Make sure to use a Volvo Certified Body Shop. Check with your dealer to find out who is certified to perform their body work(they should have a Volvo Certificate).<br>Volvo started a Certified Body Shop program about two years ago to ensure that the repairs would keep the integrity of your Volvo due to the High Strength Alloy Steel and the special repair process needed.<br>#1 and #2 need to be checked for codes for a proper diag.<br>#3 Whips is on both front seats and usually produce a large gap between the seat bottom and the back rest when they have been activated. There is a repair kit to replace the Whips brackets.<br>Once they have completed all the repairs check everything and operate all accessories even if you think they were not part of the repairs. I have even seen a fuel gauge not working correctly because the sending unit got stuck in the up position due to the accident and ran out of gas since the gauge did not work.
 

·
Super Moderator
Joined
·
39,289 Posts
Re: XC90 rear-ended, some questions (jss)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>jss</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">My wife and kids were on their way to summer camp when they were hit from behind. My wife was fully stopped but the force of the collision (the Benz that hit her was doing 35-40) pushed her 2004 XC90 into the car in front of her. Luckily, everyone appears to be in good shape with the biggest injury being a bruise on my oldest son's head. Thanks Volvo.<p>The car has a lot of damage (initial estimate is >$19K) but I want to make sure the repair shop is looking at everything so if anyone can shed some light on the following questions it would be greatly appreciated.<p>1) The car's computer is reporting "Anti-skid" temporarily disabled. What system(s) should I make sure the shop checks?<p>2) The computer is also reporting Low Battery; I assume the battery could have been damaged in the crash. Any other concerns?<p>3) How can you know if the WHIPS system activated? What needs to be done to a seat that has been activated?<p>4) Anything else I should have investigated that might not be obvious<p>Thanks in advance for any information that you can provide.<p>-Scott<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Glad everyone is OK. The car did its job in protecting them. <p>Make sure that the AWD is checked <u>thoroughly</u>. With such intense collision, I would be willing to bet that there is some damage to either the Haldex unit, the driveshaft and/or the coupling. The transmission must also be checked as I am sure she was on "D" when she got hit and she had her foot on the brake pedal.<p>Yannis
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
97 Posts
Re: XC90 rear-ended, some questions (jss)

Scott,<p>Sorry to hear about the crash. Glad the family is Ok. That's why you bought a Volvo. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> I also have an XC90 awd. It's a 2006, picked it up in Sweden this last June.<p>Anywho, <B>I am not a mechanic </B>but I am a traffic crash reconstructionist and have seen many a busted vehicles.<p>The others have made great suggestions. <p>A Volvo certified body shop should know what to look for. <p>In a rear end collision you can damage a lot of stuff on the XC90 like wiring (battery problems) knock ABS (anti-lock braking system) sensors off track which will cause warnings lights to go off and may actually disable any ABS function. Also make sure they really go over the gas tank and fuel lines. <p>Other things that you may want to check on are the seatbelt pretensioners. These are pyrotechnic devices that "fire upon impact" and cause your seatbelts to pull tight against you. If fired, they need to be replaced because your seatbelt will not be usefull in another crash.<p>The car really took care of your family. A rear impact at speeds of 35 and above usually cause very serious injuries. I mean real ones. Not the ones that are sometimes reported in 5 mph taps of the bumper. The WHIPS system is amazing.<p>I don't know if you are going to pursue any legal actions against the other party. But keep this in mind. Your vehicle is equipped with a SDM (Sensing Diagnostic Modue) It reads the severity of the impact and tells the airbags when to deploy. This SDM may record the change in velocity (or Delta V)of your car at impact. This is important information if you choose to go civil with this. <p>You may want to try to secure a download of this information before the module is replaced. Or at least ask for the module. If this turns out to be the case you can contact me and I will be glad to give some advice on how to handle the module. This information is obtainable from Ford vehicles but I don't think Volvo has made it available to the public yet. Good Luck! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
434 Posts
Re: XC90 rear-ended, some questions (jss)

Ouch - glad eveyone is OK.<p>We had a similar (though not as intense) accident happen to our XC90 when it was only 2 weeks old!! (still had the temp plates).<p>The total repair on ours was around $6K. We had the right rear wheel/tire replaced, right rear subframe and suspension, bumper, reverse warning system, and a sundry of other things.<p>The most important thing is to take it to a repair shop that does Volvo work. We got a recommendation from the dealer we purchased from.<p>Good luck!<br>
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
2 Posts
Discussion Starter · #8 ·
Re: XC90 rear-ended, some questions (Thomas)

Thanks to all for the quick responses and for the advice! I will definitely try to find a Volvo certified shop in my area.<p>To answer some questions, both children were in the second row. My oldest (age 10) was on the passenger side and probably hit his head on the doorframe.<br>My youngest (age 4) was in the built-in booster seat in the middle of the second row. The back section of the front center console came lose in the crash and came between his legs but luckily did not hit him.<br>The third row of seats were up and from what I could see, there was very little intrusion of the rear into that section. One thing that may have come in to play was the trailer hitch. It seems that some force of the accident was absorbed by it, pushing down under the main body of the car.<p>Overall, I think the car did a very good job and if the car is totaled, we have a new xc90 in our future.<p>Thanks again,<p>Scott<br> <br>
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
634 Posts
Re: XC90 rear-ended, some questions (jss)

Welcome to the forum Scott. Glad to hear everybody is OK after the accident.<p>I doubt your car will be totaled, but with the damage being more than 50% of the value of the vehicle I would be concerned about the post repair reliability and safety . If your insurance company will allow it have it totaled, personally I would feel more comfortable in having a new XC90.<p>If you do have it repaired, certainly as the previous members have mentioned have a Volvo certified shop do the repairs. Also realize that your car post repair will no longer be worth what it would be worth as a trade in or sale as if it had not been damaged. You should be able to negotiate for a repair plus the difference between a before and after evaluation. If they balk on this idea I think I heard your wife say her neck was sore.
 

·
Registered
Joined
·
273 Posts
Don't forget the exhaust system. We got rearended while I was pumping gas into the 90 and the dealer replaced the whole exhaust system from rear of the manifolds back. That alone was like $2000.
 
1 - 10 of 10 Posts
Top