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Stereo upgrade is finally 'mostly' complete. Still need to make a subwoofer grill to protect the sub but overall everything is done and working great! It's been in for a few weeks now and so far so good, my hacked up radio is holding together. Finally got all the pics together to post. Sound quality is awesome. I finally enjoy long trips in the XC90 now. It's a whole new car to me. MP3s, IPOD, XM, etc. Pioneer remote works from the back seat. Stock look. No ipod in clear view or that I need to keep putting away. No cables in the way. I just get in and enjoy the car and music now. One interface and set of buttons. <p><IMG SRC="http://216.119.100.190/_sharedpics/indashxm01.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Head Unit - Used XC90 radio from a junkyard with the display and electronics from a Pioneer 880PRS.<br>Amps - Alpine MRP-F250 4x40 @.08 (for reference I think standard <2007 volvo is 4x40 @ 10% ). Sub amp is an MTX TC3001 150x1. A nice plus is that the MTX includes a remote sub volume. I'm thinking of mounting it next to the shifter, but haven't fully decided yet. I was originally going to mount it through a blank switch cover but I didn't want to dismantle the climate control. Those switches (DSTC, etc) are all a part of the climate control. They're easy to get too but I just didn't want to tamper with the climate control. <br>Factory speakers except for the added sub. <p><br>Basic installation notes:<br>1) Stock radio display wrapped in foam and tucked down into console.<br>2) Pioneer IPOD adapter and Terk XM adapter mounted under factory amp. Lots of 'odd' space around the ducts.<br>3) XMDirect box and IPOD stored on top of factory amp. XMDirect box easy to get to and switch to another vehicle. I decided against the IPOD in the center console or the glove box as I didn't want it getting all scracthed up so I have a little plastic bin to put it into under the seat. That's where I just leave it unless I'm adding more music or going on a plane trip.<br>4) MTX sub amp installed on left of battery. Alpine amp installed on right. Plastic battery cover modified on right side to make room for alpine amp.<br>5) All wires run down the middle of the vehicle. Over the jack, under the 3rd row plastic console, under the 2nd row middle seat, along the right side of the center hump, and finally appearing in the cavity under the factory amp.<br>6) XM antenna attached with double sided tape ontop of roof liner INSIDE vehicle just under the forward part of the plastic roof. XM and FM antenna cables run up rear right pillar. No XM issues yet. I even get XM reception with the vehicle backed into my garage. FM antenna is just a coax cable right now ending up there. Reception is bad although I still get most the strong local stations. Don't know if I'm going to bother with this since we have not used FM anymore since 'upgrading'. In fact, I wish the Pioneer would let me remove 'Tuner' from the source list.<br>7) The ONLY volvo wires I had to integrate with were the volvo speaker wires coming off the factory amp and finding 12V ignition. For 12V ign, I tapped into the 2nd row 12v socket which is very easy to get to. The connector is under the removable center console. For the speaker wires, I first cut them, then added molex connectors and then made sure the factory stereo still worked. Then I terminated my new amps speaker outputs in a molex connector so I can easily restore the factory stereo should I need to. All other wiring is my own new wiring all the way from the rear.<br>8) Obviously, my steering wheel controls no longer work. Dietz does make an interface now but I don't know if I want to spend over $150 for four buttons and have to plug back into volvo wiring. I may just get the pioneer steering wheel remote. I never used the Volvo buttons much anyways. <p><br>It was a while in the planning before I decided to go this route and don't regret a single thing. (Except reconnecting the battery to move the psngr seat back and forgetting about the plug on the 2nd row middle seat (that was out) and setting off my SRS light. $100 to have it turned off).<p><br>Other pics:<p>Various Pioneer modes<br><IMG SRC="http://216.119.100.190/_sharedpics/indash01.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://216.119.100.190/_sharedpics/indashipod01.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://216.119.100.190/_sharedpics/indashipod02.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br>Factory Amp - speaker wires are the upper most gray ones. You can see the under floor cavity. This is where my wires came out from the rear. From there you can also easily run up into the center console.<br><IMG SRC="http://216.119.100.190/_sharedpics/factoryamp.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br>Stock Factory Door Speakers for those that are curious<br><IMG SRC="http://216.119.100.190/_sharedpics/doorspeaker.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://216.119.100.190/_sharedpics/doorspeakerruler.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br>Original amp install. Both were on right side. MTX actually fit ontop of alpine. Alpine didn't get hot but the MTX really got hot so I moved it to the other side.<br><IMG SRC="http://216.119.100.190/_sharedpics/originalampinstall.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br>So I moved the MTX to the left side (still gets hot but has more room to breath), and kept the alpine on the right<br><IMG SRC="http://216.119.100.190/_sharedpics/mtxamp01.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://216.119.100.190/_sharedpics/alpineamp01.jpg" BORDER="0"><br><IMG SRC="http://216.119.100.190/_sharedpics/alpineamp02.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br>Rear Roof Liner and XM antenna location. The red squares are the two screws that need to be removed. The light is plugged in so an extra hand is nice to hold the panel while you unplug the light. The blue dot is where the XM antenna is taped ontop.<br><IMG SRC="http://216.119.100.190/_sharedpics/rearroof.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><br>Rear area with sub<br><IMG SRC="http://216.119.100.190/_sharedpics/reararea.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>XMDirect and IPOD Under passenger seat. Unmounted sub volume control.<br><IMG SRC="http://216.119.100.190/_sharedpics/underseat.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>-----------------------------------------------------<p>For those wanting to upgrade XC90 stereo or at least get an aux-in, options are very limited. This is a quick summary of what I found.<p>No aux-in for 2006 and older. 2007 finally adds an aux-in and mp3 capability. I searched and searched, but there just is no aux-in for 2006 and older as of June 2006. Unknown right now if 2007 features can be retrofitted to 2006 and older. Some have tried hard wiring modulators to the non standard factory antenna with little luck. Regular FM reception then suffers. Believe it or not, I still would have done everything I did even with a 2007 stereo. Having access to 'integrated' IPOD and XM through one interface without the clutter of cables, brackets and things hanging off my dash is just worth it. One volume, one set of buttons, a sub, one remote for everything, etc.<p>So options are:<p>1) Easist but poorest quality way: Buy an fm transmitter based model. Mixed results. No one unit stands out as a clear winner. I got tired of having to switch FM stations on long drives.<br>2) Use an aftermarket 'after factory amp' adapter. Cheap basic high level to low level adapter (not recommended), JL Cleansweep, Alpine Vehicle-Hub, Rockford Fosgate 3Sixty. These work by essentially taking the amplified volvo output, scaling them down to rca line level, try to remove volvo equalization, and then you supply the signal to a new set of amp(s) to route back to the speakers. The cleansweep and vehicle-hub also add an aux-in. The other ones you'd need to do some extra fancy wiring. The alpine vehicle-hub is essentially a non-cd head unit without a display and is the only one to include it's own tuner and 4x50 amp. It does have a video out so those with volvo nav units that have figured out how to get external video into their nav screen, could have the vehicle hub output to this. Although alpine really designed it for use with their add on touch screen monitors. Downsides to this approach? You'll have a new volume knob to mount and deal with, you're still dealing with the output quality (and high distortion) of the volvo amp if you're listening to a volvo source, and you'll still most likely have clutter somewhere for an XM or IPOD mount. <br>3) Instead of putting the at least $300 into a good 'aftermarket' integrator unit, just replace the whole system and get a new head unit since you're still adding amps anyways. A few more options really open up now. For most, this would mean mounting an indash touchscreen that may also even include navigation. <p>Links:<br><A HREF="http://mobile.jlaudio.com/products_cleansweep_pages.php?page_id=94" TARGET="_blank">JL cleansweep</A><br><A HREF="http://www.alpine-usa.com/en/products/product.php?model=VPA-B222" TARGET="_blank">Alpine Vehicle Hub</A> <br><A HREF="http://www.rockfordfosgate.com/products/product_details.asp?cat_id=1&series_id=49&family_id=50&item_id=106187&locale=en_US" TARGET="_blank">Rockford Fosgate 3Sixty</A> <br><A HREF="http://www.metraonline.com/downloads/pdf/TurboKits/INST99-9225.pdf" TARGET="_blank">Metra XC90 dash kit</A><p>If you're thinking of replacing the whole system and want to try my approach, it's not that hard ASSUMING you are patient and know how to solder. While I did all my mods to a used XC90 radio, it's all reversible. However, the mods to the pioneer are not reversible, at least not for me. It's a $330 gamble for those that want to try and modify the pioneer.<p>If you don't go with an fm transmitter, then that means you're going with an option that requires new amp(s). This is the next sore point. Mounting locations for amps are few and small. I purchased the two amps that I<br>did because they were the smallest available that I could find.<p>Possibilties I didn't explore:<br>1) Underneath the actual floors under the carpet. There is a lot of space there, filled with foam. Didn't want to go through the trouble of removing everything to get to it. Plus any future maintenace meant they would have been hard to get to.<br>2) Remove one of the 3rd row seats. One swedespeed member went this route. If you do this, then space isn't really an issue anymore. This was just not an option for me.<p>What I seriously considered:<p>1) Underneath front seats. Originally I was going to put both amps under the driver's seat. The MTX in the front spot and the alpine in the rear. But I didn't like how much the alpine stuck out the back. Then I tried the alpine directly over the factory amp, but the seat plug rubbed and I didn't want to have it catch should somebody adjust the seat. In the end, I also didn't like that so much wiring was exposed and with the typical things that can fall under a seat, I started looking elsewhere and found a better spot.<p>2) Very back next to the battery (my choice). I knew the MTX would fit on the left but thought the alpine wouldn't on the right because of the dimensions. I finally did get it to fit at an angle after modifying the battery cover and now they're both out of the way but still easy to get to and maintain/adjust. As a plus, very short wiring to the battery. <p>Running wires:<p>1) I ran my wires down the middle. Very easy to do. Only had to unbolt two 2nd row seats (heavy) and the 3rd row plastic bin. As a plus, the wires for most of the run are not next to any factory wiring. System is 100% whine free.<br>2) Down either side of the car. More work involved removing side panels and trim and hoping they all snap back in 100%. Most likely where factory wiring is also.<p>Steering Wheel Controls:<p>Only one company known to make an interface that other users have reported works (although not yet in an XC90). <A HREF="http://www.dietz.biz/ENG/000000965c0e2c051/000000965c0e8915c.html" TARGET="_blank">Deitz in Germany</A>. I contacted them last month about Pioneer radios and they now support pioneer radios also. One catch. These are not found easily and very expensive. Modules, wiring, and shipping can add up to over $150. Kind of expensive for just four buttons IMO. Here's an <A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=55892" TARGET="_blank">excellent swedespeed post on the Dietz Interface</A>.<br><A HREF="http://www.pac-audio.com/" TARGET="_blank">PAC Audio</A> was working on a CAN bus interface and they've released it but it doesn't work with the XC90. I talked to them last month and they're still planning one but that doesn't really mean much.<p><br>Speakers:<p>Mine are stock for now. I may upgrade the door speakers at some point in the future. There are easy options. Tweeters are easily accessible at top of door. They just pop off. Door woofers are harder. You carefully pry the silver handle off from the bottom, then remove the screws. Then starting at the bottom of the door, you pull real hard to get it to pop off. Door woofers are rivetted in. I did not remove them. Depth available unknown. Judging from the ruler, they appear to be 5-1/4. I would like to try and upgrade to 6-3/4 but that will wait for now.<p>Subwoofer:<p>1) I made a custom fit fiberglass enclosure for the rear right to hold a 10" sub. Volume of enclosure is .6 ft3. 3rd row and grocery holder still work. For me, one 10" is more than enough. Just offloading the sub frequencies to this from the front speakers is a huge improvement. The front factory speakers no longer are killing themselves to produce the bass. Plus no more rattles and buzzing from the front. A new option: Pioneer just came out with a 10" shallow depth install sub that can use as little as .3 ft3 and installs with only 3" of depth ( TS-SW2541D ). One might be able to make even a smaller enclosure for the rear right. Why volvo insists on trying to offer 'premium' sound without a sub is beyond me.<br>2) Standalone box. Easiest solution and you can now get basically anything. Keep in mind size if you still want to use 3rd row. For die hard rappers that want to shake everything around them, this may be your only option.<br>3) One could 'possibly' use the space underneath the 1st and 2nd row floors for a sub enclusure with the subs outputting underneath the front seats. This would be A LOT of work.<p>SRS Light:<p>Watch out. A lot of people set this off. Unplug anything in the chain while power is on, and the SRS light goes off. It will not go away. Trip to the dealer required. Typical charge: $50-$100 to turn it off. Either it's an easy to remove code or they need to reload software into the unit. Known items that definitely will set it off: having the climate control module or any of the seats unplugged with the battery connected. Don't know if the key needs to be turned to 12v ignition also (or even in drive). This is required to get the factory radio out. Unknown if the SRS system is actually off once the light is on. <p><br>Links to other swedespeed installations:<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=60574" TARGET="_blank">AVolvoFan - Alpine IVA-W200</A><br><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=53429" TARGET="_blank">XC902Quick - JL Cleansweep</A><p>More info on my head unit and sub<br><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=58354" TARGET="_blank">Head Unit</A><br><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=56553" TARGET="_blank">Custom Sub</A><br><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by pattyweb at 7:47 PM 6-27-2006</i>
 

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Re: XC90 Custom Stereo Install (avolvofan)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>avolvofan</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> One more alternative to the Volvo factory stereo misery.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>really? I've always heard compliments about the Volvo audio installations, I've also read in the press they were ones of the best with the ones from Lexus.<p>Are Volvo audio systems so bad or are you very requiring?? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Excellent job, I just wet myself.<p>Excuse me...<p>Tim
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Arnaud S40</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Are Volvo audio systems so bad or are you very requiring?? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>The only thing that the XC90's audio system does ok (not well) is play CDs. Everything else is terrible: the radio is useless (no sensitivity), the audio range of the amplifiers is lousy (no bass unless the volume exceeds 50%), and the expandability is non-existent.<br>I don't know anything about Lexus' systems but I doubt very much that they are nearly as bad.<p>BTW, don't get me wrong: the MOST network could be fantastic <i>if properly exploited</i>. But for whatever reason, Volvo decided to waste all of its possibilities.<p>Volvo's answer in 2007 for the lack of bass response and the impossibility of installing their subwoofer (when the 3rd row is installed) is to stop recommending the subwoofer. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I applaud avolvofan's and pattyweb's initiative because it shows what Volvo could really do, if they really wanted to make the audio system an enjoyable system and not just a walmart cd player with a few speakers.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Arnaud S40</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">really? I've always heard compliments about the Volvo audio installations, I've also read in the press they were ones of the best with the ones from Lexus.<p>Are Volvo audio systems so bad or are you very requiring?? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Well, it is somewhat a matter of what you want in a stereo system. Across the board, there seems to be a problem with bass response. Volvo is grudgingly acknowledging the problem by offering a subwoofer installation as an accessory for some of their cars. ig_mb provides a very good analysis of the limitations of the Volvo factory system in the post immediately before this post.<p>For me, the greatest complaint that I have is the lack of hard-wired iPod connectivity. You can not begin to appreciate how bad an FM transmitter is as a solution to the lack of an iPod connection until you have tried it and then been able to switch back to a hard-wired fully integrated iPod connection. Water torture comes to mind as a description of the experience.<p>Next to the lack of an iPod solution is the lack to this day of an XM satellite radio solution. Admittedly, the 2007 models will come with the ability to incorporate an Aux-In connection and Sirius is supposed to be available as a factory option, so there is some relief for new buyers. But for those who purchased an XC90 prior to the 2007 models, we are basically left with two choices: 1.) Be happy with what the factory gave us, or 2.) In some way replace the factory system.<p>Am I being too demanding? I imagine that is partially in the eyes of the beholder. For my personal experience, I have chosen to replace the factory stereo system and I am completely satisfied with the decision and the choice of a replacement system. My only complaint is that the Alpine system (IVA-W200) was not available at the published release date of March, 2006 - I had to endure 3 months of FM transmitter purgatory.
 

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Wow, that's extemely impressive -- especially seeing it intergrated with the look of the stock head unit. It really gives you a sense of what Volvo could do .... hopefully someone from Volvo is reading this and seeing your work. Again, great job. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emcocktl.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Pattyweb, this may have been included in the text and I missed it, but what's the functionality of the steering wheel controls with the new setup?<p>And Avolvofan, did you lose functionality of the steering wheel controls with the complete swap of the head unit?
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>35073507</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">And Avolvofan, did you lose functionality of the steering wheel controls with the complete swap of the head unit?</TD></TR></TABLE><br>At the moment, the steering wheel controls are non-functional with the IVA-W200. There is supposed to be a product that changes that; but until I see it working, it doesn't exist. I have an order in for it and it is supposed to be received in mid-July, but until I see it installed and working, I am not going to even mention the manufacturer - there have been too many instances of false promises that I am not going to perpetuate the problem.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>35073507</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Pattyweb, this may have been included in the text and I missed it, but what's the functionality of the steering wheel controls with the new setup?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Thanks. I forgot to add my notes on steering wheel controls and I've updated my original post with more notes. Simple answer: They don't do anything now. There are options though. If I really wanted too, I could make them work.
 

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Thanks, and one other question -- Do you know how the Volvo Bluetooth is affected, if at all, by the new radio -- the auto-muting feature, etc.?<p>Again, spectacular job on the install and a terrific post.
 

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For the steeering controls... there have been good solutions for this for a couple years already (for XC90, S60, V70) . Plug and play right into the CANBUS connectors. See below for my installation pics of the adapter.<p><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=55892" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=55892</A>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>35073507</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Do you know how the Volvo Bluetooth is affected, if at all, by the new radio -- the auto-muting feature, etc.?. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I don't have the volvo bluetooth module. But based on how it plugs into the factory amplifier speaker outputs, it probably works by muting or disconnecting the amplified output, not actually talking to the stereo so as long as you connect your new amps to the bluetooth harness speaker wires (not the original speaker wires) it should continue to do it's job.<p>Most new radios also have a tele-mute wire that one could put to use.<p>For those without Volvo bluetooth and thinking of replacing the radio, many new high end radios have bluetooth built-in. Some have caller id display. I'm still waiting for Pioneer to release their ip-bus bluetooth module. They say it exists, my radio supports it, and that it's about to be released but then no other info. Will just have to wait and see.
 

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I converted my XC90 to an AVH-P4400BH. Works beautifully. You are right in one aspect. Factory speakers rattle when a bit of bass is introduced. In my opinion, it might be the door parts and not the speakers, not sure.

I am looking for an extension for my USB port from the back to the storage bin inbetween the seats. I want a USB port, card reader, and Aux jack on one side (flat thin box of some sort), with a USB male and 3.5mm male stereo pin on the other end. I don't mind if the box requires extension wires. I just want to hide all the wires but have the box where its easily accessible.
 

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Hi, this is my first post on here. We just bought our first Volvo and love it, 2007 XC90 I6. It has the base model radio that is pretty boring. I have found a 2007 XC90 in the junk yard that has the really nice GPS, TV screen, and all things cool. I am wondering if it would be a simple swap. I have read enough on here that an aftermarket swap can be problematic, but how about a factory swap for the nicer set up?

Thoughts?
 
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