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First things first, I love my pickup, but I don't see it as a vehicle that can "do it all", mainly because of ride comfort and stability during hard driving. In the future, I'd like to have one vehicle so I don't have to pay twice the insurance and have two car payments.<p>Based on the vehicles I own, you can probably tell I like to go fast every once in a while. Today I drove many miles up mountain roads that were both curvy and very rough. I was pushing my truck to its limits pretty much. It was a pretty rough ride, and a couple of times it felt like my rear end got airborne. I almost hit my head on the roof of the truck when I went through this one dip in the road.<p>I do some light duty off-roading every once in a while, so it's nice to have a vehicle with some ground clearance as well. I also like knowing that I can hit a pothole and not completely destroy something on the vehicle. I went around a corner of this back road once and there was a huge pothole right in the middle of the road (unavoidable). My truck hit it hard but nothing was damaged (whew). I wonder how tough the stock tires and shocks are on the XC90.<p>Oh, and my friend keeps bothering me to get a quad, so I need at least enough towing capacity to pull a trailer with two quads on it.<p>Do any of you really put your XC90 through its paces? I am wondering how it handles and how comfortable it is on rough roads.<p>Basically, I'm looking for something that can go anywhere yet still be comfortable. I kind of have my eye on the XC50 in the future because of its lower cost and smaller size, and the fact that I'm single. I love my Hemi though <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">. The XC90 V8 sounds like it might be a good fit for me.
 

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Re: XC90 compared to a pickup (frankhoffy)

The primary concern with taking an XC90 off-road won't be the vehicle itself... it will be the tires. Put some all-terrain rubber on all four corners, and slow down a bit, and it will do suprisingly well. Of course, your approach, departure, and break-over angles aren't the best, but they will be better than many stock pick-up trucks.
 

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Re: XC90 compared to a pickup (Emission)

It seems to me that Volvo is really pushing the XC70 to be an off-road vehicle. To me, it looks like the XC90 would be just as capable off-road. I doubt many XC90's leave the pavement though.<p>Was this just a marketing decision on Volvo's part, or is the XC70 really more off-road friendly?
 

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Re: XC90 compared to a pickup (frankhoffy)

The XC90 is heavy and based on the S80 chasis. It CAN go offroad if you treat it nicely. Also, if I remember correctly, the manual discourages offroad driving.<p>The XC70 seems to be lighter with better clearance, but I doubt it's built to offroad truck standards. <p>I doubt either one will withstand the off-road punishment you described.
 

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Re: XC90 compared to a pickup (Bobalouie3)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Bobalouie3</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The XC90 is heavy and based on the S80 chasis. It CAN go offroad if you treat it nicely. Also, if I remember correctly, the manual discourages offroad driving.<p>The XC70 seems to be lighter with better clearance, but I doubt it's built to offroad truck standards. <p>I doubt either one will withstand the off-road punishment you described.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That is very good to know about the XC90. Thanks for the response.<p>After reading some about the XC70, I bet it can do what I want to do: <A HREF="http://www.swedespeed.com/news/publish/Features/article_425.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.swedespeed.com/news....html</A><p>And I could always do what IPD did <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">.<p><IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/news/uploads/volvo/x005__scaled_600.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: XC90 compared to a pickup (frankhoffy)

I wonder if they have aspirations for the Paris to Dakar Rally? Pretty cool mod!<p>If you're only talking about doing stuff like was in that article, I think the XC90 would do that. I fully intend on taking mine into the Mojave Desert areas for camping and exploring when I move to SoCal this summer.<p>My other car is a '84 CJ-7 that I reserve for the REAL offroad fun! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: XC90 compared to a pickup (frankhoffy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>frankhoffy</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>That is very good to know about the XC90. Thanks for the response.<p>After reading some about the XC70, I bet it can do what I want to do: <A HREF="http://www.swedespeed.com/news/publish/Features/article_425.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.swedespeed.com/news....html</A><p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>You could be mislead by the quoted response.<p>First, XC70 is based on the same platform - S80. <br>Second, XC90 has much bigger clearance, the suspension and many power train components are reinforced, compare to XC70.<p>And the prices in US are very similar for both vehicles.<p>So, equipped with the appropriate tires, XC90 makes better off-road vehicle than XC70.
 

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Re: XC90 compared to a pickup (frankhoffy)

Maybe this will help with your off road question.<p>Benz ML500 vs Range Rover Sport vs Volvo XC90 vs VW Touareg <A HREF="http://youtube.com/watch?v=NaCpuoZ5ip4&search=volvo%20xc90" TARGET="_blank">http://youtube.com/watch?v=NaC...0xc90</A>
 

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Re: XC90 compared to a pickup (Kalbo)

The xc90 is a car dressed up like a SUV, it is a crossover. Hard off road driving would destroy it. It is made for the person that likes the SUV room with car features, and may use some gravel roads to get the kids to ball practice. It is capable of some minor off-road, but not like you describe. The article above shows some driving on hardpack gravel roads that look like a large American sedan could drive.<p>The ML, RR or xc90 are not pickups by any streach.. Calling them a truck is even more off target.<BR><BR>
<i>Modified by calridng at 6:20 AM 7-4-2006</i>
 

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Re: XC90 compared to a pickup (calridng)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>calridng</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The xc90 is a car dressed up like a SUV, it is a crossover. Hard off road driving would destroy it. It is made for the person that likes the SUV room with car features, and may use some gravel roads to get the kids to ball practice. It is capable of some minor off-road, but not like you describe. The article above shows some driving on hardpack gravel roads that look like a large American sedan could drive.<p>The ML, RR or xc90 are not pickups by any streach.. Calling them a truck is even more off target.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>OK that ^^^ was the general impression I was getting from the XC90.<p>The XC70 seems more like a Subaru. Built for off-road.<p>If you refer to page 8 of the XC70 brochure, you'll see it airborne jumping over a hill. That's the kind of driving I like to do sometimes <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">: <A HREF="http://www.volvocars.us/NR/rdonlyres/E2691C6C-B902-44CB-B6E4-48C40A7D5755/6091/XC70MY06.pdf" TARGET="_blank">http://www.volvocars.us/NR/rdo...6.pdf</A><p>If the XC90 is not built for off-road so much, why bother installing skid plates and black plastic lower body molding?
 

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Re: XC90 compared to a pickup (frankhoffy)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>frankhoffy</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>If the XC90 is not built for off-road so much, why bother installing skid plates and black plastic lower body molding?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Because it looks good, and that is the style... How well is that plastic going to hold up in real off-road use? They will help in the occational gravel road use to keep the sticks from maybe getting wrapped in a wire harness.
 

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Re: XC90 compared to a pickup (calridng)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>calridng</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Because it looks good, and that is the style... How well is that plastic going to hold up in real off-road use? They will help in the occational gravel road use to keep the sticks from maybe getting wrapped in a wire harness. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Very entertaining thread, but is based on a wrong premise - Where did you find that Volvo does not recommend an off-road use of XC90?<p>It was built to enhance the off-rod capabilities of XC70, has bigger wheels that creates significantly bigger clearence and fording depth, better front and rear clearing angles, reinforced powertrain and suspension, and as the result - makes it better off-road vehicle.<p>XC90 is not a competition to Land Rover (nothing is, I think) and Porsche Cayenne, but has very decent off-road capabilities in mud and snow with the appropriate tyres. <p>The actual quote from the manual:<p>"The Volvo XC90 is designed primarily for on-road driving, and it HAS excellent handling characteristics on very rough or unpaved roads".<br>And then there is a whole section of tips on driving on steep inclines, deep water, etc.
 

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Re: XC90 compared to a pickup (Volvo6850)

<p>For the off-road use this person is asking about, the xc90 is not up to it. XC90 would be fine for some logging roads and stuff like that. The person asking the question has much more requirements than<br>just some minor off-paved-roading.<p>During tests the xc90 can to much of it, but long term bashing of the vehicle would cause much damage. He really needs a dedicated 4x4 pick-up based vehicle with a real frame that can take the abuse.<p>Woukd you take your xc90 airborne and expect that it be just fine at the end of the day?
 

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The XC90 won the "Mudfest" SUV of the year in 2002, 2003, & 2004. That has to give some credibility to it's offroad capability...<br><A HREF="http://nwapa.org/mudfest" TARGET="_blank">http://nwapa.org/mudfest</A>/
 

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<p>I would hardly put much into something that has the Kia Sportage as Best of Class....<p>remember one of the posters comments...<p>"Today I drove many miles up mountain roads that were both curvy and very rough. I was pushing my truck to its limits pretty much. It was a pretty rough ride, and a couple of times it felt like my rear end got airborne. I almost hit my head on the roof of the truck when I went through this one dip in the road."
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>calridng</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I would hardly put much into something that has the Kia Sportage as Best of Class....<p>remember one of the posters comments...<p>"Today I drove many miles up mountain roads that were both curvy and very rough. I was pushing my truck to its limits pretty much. It was a pretty rough ride, and a couple of times it felt like my rear end got airborne. I almost hit my head on the roof of the truck when I went through this one dip in the road."</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, I do remember that, but:<br>If someone believes that XC70 or Subaru are adequate, than XC90 is even better.<p>My only point is that XC90 is MORE suatable for off-roading than XC70.<p>And there is absolutely nothing wrong with Kia - well built, loaded with features and very reasonably priced. I do not think it was compared to Jeep Cherokee or Toyota 4runner<p><br>
 

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A Subaru would be able to do everything I want to do, but I just don't want to leave the Volvo fold is all. A Subaru is not as nice looking nor as comfortable as a Volvo. And not as safe either, despite what Subaru claims (that's a topic for another thread).
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>frankhoffy</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">A Subaru would be able to do everything I want to do, but I just don't want to leave the Volvo fold is all. A Subaru is not as nice looking nor as comfortable as a Volvo. And not as safe either, despite what Subaru claims (that's a topic for another thread).</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Totally agree. Then, if you need some extra cargo/interior space and a beautiful exterior - get XC90, otherwise - XC70.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Volvo6850</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Totally agree. Then, if you need some extra cargo/interior space and a beautiful exterior - get XC90, otherwise - XC70.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Another thing to factor in would be center of gravity. I assume that since the XC90 has ROPS, it must have a higher center of gravity than the 70. I know one thing that bothers me with my truck is that at certain speeds it is downright unstable. DSTC improves stability I'm sure, but a lower center of gravity always helps with roadholding.<p>By the way, I saw an Ocean Race XC90 on the way home pulling a decent sized trailer. Beautiful vehicle. It would look quite nice next to my R in the garage <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">.
 

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Re: XC90 compared to a pickup (Volvo6850)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Volvo6850</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Very entertaining thread, but is based on a wrong premise - Where did you find that Volvo does not recommend an off-road use of XC90?<p>It was built to enhance the off-rod capabilities of XC70, has bigger wheels that creates significantly bigger clearence and fording depth, better front and rear clearing angles, reinforced powertrain and suspension, and as the result - makes it better off-road vehicle.<p>XC90 is not a competition to Land Rover (nothing is, I think) and Porsche Cayenne, but has very decent off-road capabilities in mud and snow with the appropriate tyres.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>You summed it up well. I routinely drive off-pavement on unmaintained tracks and find the XC90 adequate for soft-roading. It doesn't like big rocks but will handle most other conditions if driven carefully. The XC90 is definitely superior to the XC70 which I have have taken off-road on occasion as a service loaner (don't tell the dealer). I use the stock Michelin Synchrone tires and I carry a full-sized spare when going off-road. Typical terrain around here:<p><IMG SRC="http://idisk.mac.com/main_street/Public/XC90-bounce.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://idisk.mac.com/main_street/Public/XC90-rocky-road.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>
 
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