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Good news; finally a trip to Colorado for some fun . BAD news was that before we get home, six inches of snow in Laramie and the highway had been "sanded" and a piece of "sand" flew up and broke my windshield. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> 30 inch crack in center about three inches up from and parallel to the bottom. Estimate is $207 to replace. I haven't even had the stomach to look at the paint on the nose. Don't know why Wyoming Dept of Transportation can't use "sand" smaller than the size of a baseball. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: $$##*** Wyoming Weather and DOT (Hi Alt R)

So far, my car is the only one in my family without a crack in my windshield.<p>I also put a clear bra on my front bumper, hood, headlights, foglights, side mirrors and rocker panel all the way to the back of the car.<p>I purposely get behind truckers and yell "is that all you got?"<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>On a side note: I was a passenger in my friends mom's 1999 accord as we were driving on the freeway. It was like slow motion as we saw the 3" rock from about 50 ft away come flying at the center of the windshield expecting to see the windshield shatter into a thousand pieces. Nothing more than a loud noise. After we reached our destination, we couldn't even find the place where the rock hit the windshield. Unbelievable!!!
 

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I do have the clear stuff on hood, headlights and foglights. I just went out and checked and now there are three gouges through the hood bra into the paint. At least one of those grossly expensive headlights was not broken
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pie_ya</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I purposely get behind truckers and yell "is that all you got?"<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Is that so when the tire blows / mudflap flies off you can be guaranteed that it hits you? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>pie_ya</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <br>On a side note: I was a passenger in my friends mom's 1999 accord as we were driving on the freeway. It was like slow motion as we saw the 3" rock from about 50 ft away come flying at the center of the windshield expecting to see the windshield shatter into a thousand pieces. Nothing more than a loud noise. After we reached our destination, we couldn't even find the place where the rock hit the windshield. Unbelievable!!!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I had this happen to me in my Pathfinder. Rock the size of a softball spit out between a concrete truck's two tires. Nasty dent in my hood, but just a small scratch on my windshield.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Hi Alt R</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I do have the clear stuff on hood, headlights and foglights. I just went out and checked and now there are three gouges through the hood bra into the paint. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Clear bras will only work for the small stuff, I guess. I would love to get my headlights damaged...that way I can get the euro ones. Maybe that is why I stay behind trucks. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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They used to use actual sand, but it seems that they have gone to crushed granite. The Union Pacific's big granite quarry is nearby and all of thier quarried ballast is grey granite. Looks like they buy that and crush it smaller. I emailed the WYDOT and asked them why it was so big. I'll let everyone know if they reply.
 

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Re: $$##*** Wyoming Weather and DOT (Hi Alt R)

File an insurance claim. Zero deductible glass coverage is common, plus chips to paint are covered by the normal coverage, as long as it occured at a specific incident and not over time.<p>I had a truck kick up a sudden spray that caused $3500+ in body/glass work/replacement, I was only out $250 deductible. Thumbs up for State Farm!
 

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Well, I don't know why but Wyoming is one of the few states without zero deductible for glass replacement. Insurance is required to pay to fix repairable fix chips and cracks fro free, but a 30-35 inch crack is not repairable.
 

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Re: $$##*** Wyoming Weather and DOT (Hi Alt R)

Here is what WYDOT says about puting sand on the highways. A bit long but an interesting read. Note the part about the arrowhead shaped gravel <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/mad.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>"We use two different sizes of sanding aggregate. One is 3/8 inch<br>diameter maximum and one is 1/4 inch diameter maximum. In areas where<br>we can have strong wind issues as well as heavy snow storms in<br>conjunction with steep grades we use the 3/8 inch max. material so that<br>the wind and trucks will not blow it off of the road so badly and so<br>that heavy snows will not cover it up so fast that we can not keep the<br>traffic moving. In areas where we don't have quite so steep of terrain<br>and the snow accumulation rate is somewhat less we use the 1/4 inch max.<br>material. We really don't have an area in southern Wyoming where there<br>is not an issue with the wind taking the sand off of the road, but we<br>are using more liquid chemicals in many areas to coat the sand and try<br>to get it to stick to the road better before the wind and trucks can<br>blow it away. This helps, but can cause other issues with the extra<br>residual salt that is left on the road surface causing the blowing snow<br>after the precipitation event is over to stick to the road surface and<br>make it as bad as it was when the event was happening. <br> At the present time Rawlins, Cheyenne and Pine Bluffs are using the<br>1/4 inch material and Laramie, Arlington and Elk Mountain are using the<br>larger more effective 3/8 inch material. We have experimented with<br>smaller material in all sites and ended up with what we have now since<br>we seemed to do better with keeping the highways open.<br> The shape of the material is another issue we deal with also. It is<br>much better to try and use material with a flat angular shape, similar<br>to an arrow head, so that when it hits the road it lays flat and does<br>not bounce and roll off of the surface like a blockier cubic shape will<br>do. The sharper edges seem to do much better with traction for trucks<br>and also to bite into the ice and help cut it off of the road as traffic<br>moves over it.<br> The bottom line is that if you travel during a snow storm you will<br>probably get some sanding material flying around when being passed by<br>another vehicle or when you pass them. There will be some pitting of<br>paint and windshields. We have not been able to figure out another<br>solution to keeping traffic moving that is affordable and does not cause<br>problems after the storm is over with chemical residue. This is an on<br>going research topic in every state that has Winter snow removal to do,<br>and is continually re-visited to try and find better ideas.<br> I hope I have answered your questions. Let me know if you need<br>more information."<p>It is nice to inow that you live in an area where the wind is a factor in the size and shape of the gravel they put on the roads in the winter <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>
 
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