This isn't exactly Volvo related but...<P>WRC vs. F1, what do you folks think?<P>Who has the better drivers and which one do you like more? To be totally honest, F1 just puts me to sleep. I don't like it because it is so boring and predictable. I even like CART better than I do the F1 series. <P>If some of you all keep up with WRC and F1, here is something interesting:<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>According to the BBC McRae has now called on Formula One's reigning champion, Michael Schumacher, to join him in a head-to-head clash that would raise money for charity. The clash that McRae has in mind would see him and the Ferrari ace race in a Formula One car and then after in a WRC car.<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I think that McRae would kick Shumi's arse in rally, but Shumi would win in F1 by a medium margin. McRae now has the most victories in WRC history, after this weekend.<P>Did any of you watch the Kenya Rally this weekend on Speedvision/Speed? The conditions were totally brutal!<P>-Drew
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Michael would kick Colin's butt...at BOTH. Why? He's methodical about everything. He practices courses in his brain, but he can also handle things on the fly. He's a remarkably skilled driver, and he's insanely fit. I think he could handle anything a rally course would toss his way. My humble two cents...put your money on the German, my friends. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/smile.gif">
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You know, I'm not so sure. When I was in highschool I was a big road biker. When I got to college I started mountain biking, and you know what I learned? You have to be a different kind of nuts to thread through trees and catch air over knobby little hills. <P>I think Schumey might be the better driver, but he would have to be a real nutcase to be the better rally car driver. At the very least, I think it would take him a while to get used to the change.
I think they crash each others cars. McRea would not be adjusted to the blistering F1 speed and finess, and Schumacher would not know how to drift a rally car well. Not to mention they are far heavier and relatively small contact surface to the road. <BR>I would pay to see it though!<P>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spearzy:<BR><B>I think they crash each others cars. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P> <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/biggrin.gif"> That's what I was thinking, too. It'd be funny to see, that's for sure. If they do crash each others cars...would look like some comic strip. <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/wink.gif"><BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Spearzy:<BR><B>...and Schumacher would not know how to drift a rally car well.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>If he can drift a F1 car, he can drift a rally car! <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/biggrin.gif"><P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by towerymt:<BR><B> If he can drift a F1 car, he can drift a rally car! <IMG SRC="http://www.swedespeed.com/ubb/biggrin.gif"></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><BR>This is a great topic to get you thinking.<P>Michael Schumacher is a good driver especially in rain. This would make me think that since a human has the ability to transfer skills, he would be a good rally driver. Except I don't know how closely drifting a F1 car in the rain is to drifting a WRC in the gravel since Michael wouldn't have experiance with uneven surfaces. <P>Next we got McRae's F1 driving ability. Give him crappy roads and he'll do good. Give him good roads, he should drive better, right?<P>As far as insanity, rally drivers are nuts. McRae has driven off cliffs, into trees, etc. But F1 isn't much better. At a 240mph, little things make the difference between winning and having a bad spill.<P>
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by InDy:<BR><B>This isn't exactly Volvo related but...<P>WRC vs. F1, what do you folks think?<P>Who has the better drivers and which one do you like more? To be totally honest, F1 just puts me to sleep. I don't like it because it is so boring and predictable. I even like CART better than I do the F1 series. <P><BR> I think that McRae would kick Shumi's arse in rally, but Shumi would win in F1 by a medium margin. McRae now has the most victories in WRC history, after this weekend.<P>-Drew </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Drew,<P>these are two different sports (yeah, we already know that, duh!). <P>F1 (my favorite motor sport of ALL time!) is an amazing sport and I don't understand how you can fall asleep. If you want to fall asleep try a NASCAR, a.k.a Hillbilly race, race. True YAWN. CART? Sure they CAN be entertaining but many of the circuits are boring ovals or triangles.<P>F1 looks easy but try riding a bullet that screams at 18,000 rpm and propels you at more than 220 mph with tremendous G-forces...<P>WRC is my 2nd favorite motor sport and what I consider TRUE driving skills. These guys are truly nuts and they drive by pushing their skills and luck envelope to the limit.<P>But here is the kicker; you mention Schumacher vs. McRae. I truly despise both drivers although I respect both for who they are...they are the elite. Schumacher is (for me) the most despised driver I can ever remember. But I can't not recognize his tremendous driving skills, his robot-like preparation for his job and the awesome analytical skills he possesses in analyzing the huge amount of data available to him. The fact that the current Ferrari that he is driving is such an unbeatable car, it is mostly due to his influence over the past few years and I do not mean that because of his very good driving.<P>I think that with good preparation, Schuey would do very well in WRC. Naturally, he would not beat McRae. But put McRae inside an F1 beast, IN TRAFFIC (remember, these guys are used to drive ALONE with no cars in front of them, beside them, behind them) with other F1 beasts screaming past him and...I doubt he would finish the race. And don't forget that McRae like any WRC driver, rely very heavily on their partner telling them when a turn is coming up, if it is a right turn, a left turn, what gear to be in, etc. Inside the F1 car you are on your own and you better remember the course, inch by inch because you miss your driveline by a foot and you are DONE! Actually, I can guarantee you that he would be facing the barriers and/or tires in one of the curves. And McRae is a hothead so that will not help him in F1. In F1 you crash and you are out. In WRC you can crash but your car can keep going. <P>So, are F1 drivers superior to WRC drivers? No. Schumacher is a superior driver. WRC drivers are fearless and "mental". F1 drivers are more fit, can concentrate better therefore more adaptable.<P>Schuey, comfortably. (God, I despise him!)<P>Yannis<P>
Schumacher Doesn't Have The Stones!!!<P>At the end of the Safari Rally and claiming his record-breaking 25th victory Ford star Colin McRae issued a challenge to Ferrari's Michael Schumacher. The challenge was quite simply to see which of the two was the best by racing first in a Formula One car, and then in a Rally car. <P>However while McRae is eager to find out who the best of the best is in the name of charity, Schumacher does not seem too enthusiastic about the challenge. In fact the four-time world champion seemed completely uninterested in such a challenge taking place, saying that perhaps it would be better for McRae to rather challenge Jaguar if he really wants to challenge someone in Formula One, as they are the same company. <P>Schumacher said: "For him, its probably easier to do that sort of thing between Ford and Jaguar because it's the same company. Truthfully, I have been interested in running a rally car in the past but I have to say that my level of interest in that is a bit down right now. But, maybe one day I'll do it, if it's in a safe place."<P>As Nelson Muntz on the Simpsons would say: "Ha Ha"
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<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by PWSchuh:<BR><B>Schumacher Doesn't Have The Stones!!!<P>At the end of the Safari Rally and claiming his record-breaking 25th victory Ford star Colin McRae issued a challenge to Ferrari's Michael Schumacher. The challenge was quite simply to see which of the two was the best by racing first in a Formula One car, and then in a Rally car. <P>However while McRae is eager to find out who the best of the best is in the name of charity, Schumacher does not seem too enthusiastic about the challenge. In fact the four-time world champion seemed completely uninterested in such a challenge taking place, saying that perhaps it would be better for McRae to rather challenge Jaguar if he really wants to challenge someone in Formula One, as they are the same company. <P>Schumacher said: "For him, its probably easier to do that sort of thing between Ford and Jaguar because it's the same company. Truthfully, I have been interested in running a rally car in the past but I have to say that my level of interest in that is a bit down right now. But, maybe one day I'll do it, if it's in a safe place."<P>As Nelson Muntz on the Simpsons would say: "Ha Ha" </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P><BR>I am not going to take Schumacher's side because I like him because it is evident I do not.<P>But I am telling you again; McRae may be thinking that he best in WRC (he clearly isn't, he is very good but there are at least 2 other drivers that have bigger "cojones" than he does) but I GUARANTEE you that if you put him in an F1 car, he would not be able to complete one whole lap (provided he took the car over 200 km/h...). Schumacher most likely would not be able to generate better times, in a Rally race, as McRae but McRae would not be even close to what Schumacher can do on a Grand Prix circuit. The difference would be astounding.<P>Sure Schumacher would want to play it safe at this stage of his career. Why risk unnecessary injury to prove something this idiotic? He has a very good chance of becoming the all-time World Champion should he be a World Champion next year (6 championships) and don't forget...he makes close to $100 million/yr. compared to the "paltry" (it is all relative, of course) stipend that McRae pulls... Hehe!<P>Yannis<P>
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