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Good idea. I better double check that. Last night I DID look up the dipstick. Volvo parts online for a '13 S60 says it's part # 31330383. Dipstick in my car is 30777500. Looked it up, and Volvo said it's compatible with everything from early P1s to late model S60s. Tough to say for sure. What I DO remember is last time I changed my oil, I started with the "recommended" 5.8 liters and it was clearly still low on the dipstick, so I added about another liter before hitting the middle of the mark. So I think the dipstick setup is correct for this motor. Most likely came with the new engine, BUT I will still look at my oil pan to be on the safe side. A new stick and tube are cheap enough at dealer, so I might just go ahead and swap out since I was going to swap out the seal anyway as part of this whole job. Will verify what I have first either way.

The dipstick of my C70 is P/N: 30777500.




Things are getting trickier here:

First of all, I need to make clear which engines we will talk about so there's no confusion:

B5254T3 and B5254T7 are the original P1 "T5" engines.

B5254T5 is the "T5" engine that first came on P3 vehicles until MY2012. Which AFAIK, is practically the same (minor differences) as the T3/T7 + a Polestar tune. That's why it has 250HP from factory.

B5254T12 is the engine that replaced the B5254T5 on the "T5" trim from MY2013 and newer. We already mentioned this one has even more differences than the T5 (engine) when compared to the original P1 platform engines.

With that being said:

Oil pans are different between T3/T7, T5 and T12:
  • T3 and T7 oil pan is P/N: 30777739
  • T5 has two models:
    • Without oil level sensor, P/N: 31375244
    • With oil level sensor, P/N: 31316362
  • T12 oil pan is P/N: 31375244 (T12 exclusive)
P1 native 5 cylinder engines (2.4, 2.4i and both T5's) use the same dipstick (P/N: 30777500), which measures ~22 inches as the picture above.

P3 have two dipsticks depending on the year (most likely due to the engine):
  • Until 2012 is same as P1 T5 engines (P/N: 30777500)
  • From 2013 and newer is P/N: 31330383 (uses tube P/N: 31330382). This is for B5254T12, B5254T14 and B5204Tx engines(last two not sold in the U.S.), according to VIDA.

From what I can make of all of this, it seems that you most likely have a T12 oil pan with a T3/T5/T7 dipstick. Until we don't get a confirmation of the difference between the oil dipsticks of T3/T5/T7 and T12 engines, you cannot trust that one you have. My advice is to first find which oil pan P/N you have, find a T12 dipstick with the tube and compare them.
 

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Can't seem to find the part number on the pan anywhere, but looked at Vida info for both and looked up pics of them and I'm 99% sure I have the one from the T12. Starting to think that I should be doing an oil cooler upgrade as well. That is AFTER I get the darn thing running to begin with. You ever used one of these?
No, but I'm planning to get one when FCP have them back in stock (I'm not in a hurry for it TBH). It won't make a crazy difference in cooling, but it's nice to have that "extra" cooling available. Plus, it will help to warm up the oil a little bit quicker. That's also important as cooling the oil when it's hot.
 

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Things are getting trickier here:
Yeah, that's for sure! Never thought I'd have to pay attention to dipstick part numbers!!! What a complicated little project this turned out to be. Sheesh!

Oil pans are different between T3/T7, T5 and T12:
  • T3 and T7 oil pan is P/N: 30777739
  • T5 has two models:
    • Without oil level sensor, P/N: 31375244
    • With oil level sensor, P/N: 31316362
  • T12 oil pan is P/N: 31375244 (T12 exclusive)
P1 native 5 cylinder engines (2.4, 2.4i and both T5's) use the same dipstick (P/N: 30777500), which measures ~22 inches as the picture above.

P3 have two dipsticks depending on the year (most likely due to the engine):
  • Until 2012 is same as P1 T5 engines (P/N: 30777500)
  • From 2013 and newer is P/N: 31330383 (uses tube P/N: 31330382). This is for B5254T12, B5254T14 and B5204Tx engines(last two not sold in the U.S.), according to VIDA.
Do you know where the oil pan part number is located? I couldn't find it anywhere on the part. Hope it's not on the inside!

From what I can make of all of this, it seems that you most likely have a T12 oil pan with a T3/T5/T7 dipstick. Until we don't get a confirmation of the difference between the oil dipsticks of T3/T5/T7 and T12 engines, you cannot trust that one you have. My advice is to first find which oil pan P/N you have, find a T12 dipstick with the tube and compare them.
Looking that way. Indeed, I can NOT trust what I have. Wouldn't that be wild if it was something as simple as a dipstick or using '09 C30 specs for oil fills that led to this whole catastrophe? Thank you SO much for compiling all of this information for me. I'll give the dealer a call tomorrow and see if they have a '13 dipstick and tube on hand.
 

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No, but I'm planning to get one when FCP have them back in stock (I'm not in a hurry for it TBH). It won't make a crazy difference in cooling, but it's nice to have that "extra" cooling available. Plus, it will help to warm up the oil a little bit quicker. That's also important as cooling the oil when it's hot.
For sure. And probably doubly important in my particular case! I wonder what the difference is in the one at FCP vs the one at ViVA Performance. They're both Behr parts, but the ViVA one is WAY more expensive for some reason. Yeah, I guess I'll try and snag one from FCP when it's back in stock. Hopefully mine's not broken somehow to begin with!
 

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but the ViVA one is WAY more expensive for some reason
$225 for the oil cooler assembly (it's kinda high, but nothing crazy)
$414 for the oil cooler assembly + their fancy kit with "go fast, race inspired, high performance, ultimate edition, I bought this and I got shafted, whatasucker" genuine volvo O-rings, hose clamps and viton hoses. (This one seems ridiculous, I would honestly just buy the genuine stuff at a dealer instead)

They're the same D5 oil cooler that you can buy for less on other websites. Google Mahle CLC70000P
 

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$225 for the oil cooler assembly (it's kinda high, but nothing crazy)
$414 for the oil cooler assembly + their fancy kit with "go fast, race inspired, high performance, ultimate edition, I bought this and I got shafted, whatasucker" genuine volvo O-rings, hose clamps and viton hoses. (This one seems ridiculous, I would honestly just buy the genuine stuff at a dealer instead)

They're the same D5 oil cooler that you can buy for less on other websites. Google Mahle CLC70000P
K. I see. Good to know not to get suckered into their silly kit. Might have to go them for the cooler though since EVERYBODY seems to be out of stock. Globally even!

Thats also the same oil cooler that the focus ST uses, correct?
Perhaps, but definitely seems to be the one from the Mk II Focus RS from what I read. Could very well be the same as the ST.
 

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Thats also the same oil cooler that the focus ST uses, correct?
Nope, the Mk2 Focus ST, has the exact same engine as any P1. The RS is the one that was beefed up.....
 

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HOLD ON! Seems like there's another twist to the T12 oil capacity:

2014 S60 owners manual says 5.8 qts (5.5 liters) for the T12. (Link here)

And there are posts about the T12 having the incorrect oil capacity in the owners manual




I checked VIDA and it calls for 5.5 liters of oil for the T12........

WTH is going on here????
 

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What’s with all the oil discrepancies?
 
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HOLD ON! Seems like there's another twist to the T12 oil capacity:

2014 S60 owners manual says 5.8 qts (5.5 liters) for the T12. (Link here)

And there are posts about the T12 having the incorrect oil capacity in the owners manual



I checked VIDA and it calls for 5.5 liters of oil for the T12........

WTH is going on here????
What’s with all the oil discrepancies?
I dunno, but now I'm even more confused than when I started! Haha.

That's wild about the e-mail from Volvo customer care saying they messed up on the owners manual! Volvo's done "recalls" for tire pressure stickers on the door. Seems that a recall for an owner's manual re-print should have been done.

"Response By Email (Maureen) (12/27/2013 09:26 AM)
Hi Robert,
I apologize for the confusion. Our 2013 owners manual is incorrect your S60 has an oil capacity of 5.8 qts. Thank you for taking the time to contact us, please feel free to contact me with any other questions or comments that you may have. Thank You for choosing Volvo!

Maureen
Volvo Cars of North America, LLC"

On the plus side, at least it would seem that my engine hasn't been underfilled this whole time!
 

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Ok, so the oil pan seems to be kinda similar….

But I wonder why it “takes” less oil then? I mean, T3 is 6.1qts vs 5.8 qts of the T12. That’s ~22% of the MIN-MAX difference (1.4qts) of the dipstick of the T3/T7……..

Is the T12 dipstick/tube longer than the T3/T7/T5??
 

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Ok, so the oil pan seems to be kinda similar….

But I wonder why it “takes” less oil then? I mean, T3 is 6.1qts vs 5.8 qts of the T12. That’s ~22% of the MIN-MAX difference (1.4qts) of the dipstick of the T3/T7……..

Is the T12 dipstick/tube longer than the T3/T7/T5??
I have no idea! Just pulled the dipstick tube so I can replace PCV/oil filter housing goodies and dipstick o-ring. The tube is PN# 31216159, which is what is called for on a '13 S60 according to Volvo parts website. Also compatible with everything else under the sun though, so who knows. Still haven't located the oil pan part number. Might be on top of the jack holding up the engine. Haha.

In other news, got my block's deck clean and ready to rock. Dowels are re-installed. New turbo to cat gasket's in. New misc. turbo tubing's in. New oil filter housing's ready to put in! Looks like I'll be getting my beautifully refreshed cylinder head back in this weekend!

Mystery gets deeper, though. Specs for height say 149ish mm. MY height is closer to 129 mm. That's a full 2 cm shorter. Yet there was never any interference before, so there's no way it was milled 2 cm before I got to it. I mean. That's a BIG difference, right? WTF is going on with my car?! Lol.
 

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No way your cylinder head is 20mm shorter than stock. if that were the case, then it wouldn't have a combustion chamber (valve faces would be right against the deck). Measure again....
 

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So what should we run? Obviously 5W-30 is safe if you are in a moderate climate, but what about those of us that drive our cars hard? Three different manuals, 3 different tables, suggesting anywhere from 0-30 to 10-30 to 5-40.
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The dipstick of my C70 is P/N: 30777500.




Things are getting trickier here:

First of all, I need to make clear which engines we will talk about so there's no confusion:

B5254T3 and B5254T7 are the original P1 "T5" engines.

B5254T5 is the "T5" engine that first came on P3 vehicles until MY2012. Which AFAIK, is practically the same (minor differences) as the T3/T7 + a Polestar tune. That's why it has 250HP from factory.

B5254T12 is the engine that replaced the B5254T5 on the "T5" trim from MY2013 and newer. We already mentioned this one has even more differences than the T5 (engine) when compared to the original P1 platform engines.

With that being said:

Oil pans are different between T3/T7, T5 and T12:
  • T3 and T7 oil pan is P/N: 30777739
  • T5 has two models:
    • Without oil level sensor, P/N: 31375244
    • With oil level sensor, P/N: 31316362
  • T12 oil pan is P/N: 31375244 (T12 exclusive)
P1 native 5 cylinder engines (2.4, 2.4i and both T5's) use the same dipstick (P/N: 30777500), which measures ~22 inches as the picture above.

P3 have two dipsticks depending on the year (most likely due to the engine):
  • Until 2012 is same as P1 T5 engines (P/N: 30777500)
  • From 2013 and newer is P/N: 31330383 (uses tube P/N: 31330382). This is for B5254T12, B5254T14 and B5204Tx engines(last two not sold in the U.S.), according to VIDA.

From what I can make of all of this, it seems that you most likely have a T12 oil pan with a T3/T5/T7 dipstick. Until we don't get a confirmation of the difference between the oil dipsticks of T3/T5/T7 and T12 engines, you cannot trust that one you have. My advice is to first find which oil pan P/N you have, find a T12 dipstick with the tube and compare them.
Get rid of that GD stock air box…. You’re killing smalls…. Lol
 

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I’ll show mine if you show me yours….lol
nah, the owner’s manual of your C30 is most likely highly modified as well, ad it says "If you car is highly modified and on top of that has water/meth injection, please completely ignore this section."


Get rid of that GD stock air box…. You’re killing smalls…. Lol
hahaha, you hate it with a passion!. The stock airbox will stay in the car.....................for now.
 

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No way your cylinder head is 20mm shorter than stock. if that were the case, then it wouldn't have a combustion chamber (valve faces would be right against the deck). Measure again....
Am I doing this wrong? Haha.
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