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I know this topic has been practically discussed ad infinitum; however, I am having doubts as to what to go with and here is why:<p>- Dunlop’s Sport Maxx is Tire Rack’s ranks number 1 by performance <A HREF="http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=MP" TARGET="_blank">http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...pe=MP</A><br>- Goodyear F1’s is ranked by C&D as number 1 <A HREF="http://www.caranddriver.com/features/10252/tire-test-the-quick-and-the-tread.html" TARGET="_blank">http://www.caranddriver.com/fe....html</A> (Would the results be different had they used an R and not a 325i?)<br>- Michelin ps2s are sworn by the Service manager as his first choice as well as (as do most on this board) and is ranked #1 by Tire Rack if only used in dry <A HREF="http://www.tirerack.com/tires/surveyresults/surveydisplay.jsp?type=MP&VT=null&sortValue=15" TARGET="_blank">http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...ue=15</A> <br>- Continental ContiSportContact 2 are sworn by a Colleague with an Audi s4 supercharged and was ranked second by C&D <br>-Pirelli's PZero Rosso – Stock; need not say more<p>My daily ride consists of roughly 80 miles of which 27 miles are on the Palisades Parkway, 10 miles or so on the GWB and West Side Highway and the remainder on local streets in NYC and Rockland NY multiplied by two. I have Dunlop’s M3 for the winter so these will only be used from April through November or whenever we get our first frost or snowstorm.<p>Given all that, what would be recommended and more importantly, why? <p>Here is the summary from the C&D test:<br>OVERALL SCORE<p>Goodyear: 1050.4<br>Continental: 1031.9<br>Yokohama: 1027.0<br>Michelin: 1018.7<br>Hankook: 1015.4<br>Dunlop: 1002.2<br>Pirelli: 1002.1<br>Toyo: 999.7<br>Bridgestone: 993.9<br>BFGoodrich: 993.0<br>Kumho: 990.7<p>Max points<br>dry performance (x2): 600<br>wet performance: 300<br>price: 100<br>tread wear: 100<br>total possible: 1100<p>Thanks,<br>dsl<p><br>
 

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Re: Which Tires? (lieberd)

Just about any P2 R owner here will tell you Michelin PS2's make 4C work WAY better (ie you will feel night and day improvement over the stock tires). Maybe some of the other tires rank higher (<I>on other cars</I>) but you don't have the expereince and advice from R owners. I can tell you that PS2's are GREAT, AMAZING, and WAAAAAAYYYYY BETTER than the stock Rosso's.<p>ps. They seem best at 39psi.<p>Go and get yourself a price from Tire Rack and ask Oscar if you need any help.<p>LTA<p>
 

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Re: Which Tires? (lieberd)

I don't think you would go wrong with any of those choices, except the Pirellis'. With the routes you describe, 100 plus mph on a regular basis and aggressive cornering seems out of the question. I have driven NYC streets and they can be rough. I would look at the tire on your list with the best ride (softer sidewalls). <br> I also think you may be over doing you winter tire choice. I use the M3's, but we get 500 inches of snow a year. My son ran the Pirelli all season Rosso's last winter and really liked them. Less money and they did very well in Reno, with two or three trips a week to ski areas in the Sierra's. oclv
 

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Re: Which Tires? (lieberd)

Any of them would be an improvement. The PS2's and the Yokohama's (I am guessing that you are talking about the Advan's) are the most expensive. I haven't heard that many good things about the Dunlops. The Goodyear's are probably the best bang for the buck.
 

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Re: Which Tires? (lieberd)

I recently replaced my GY F1's with 235/40ZR18 Dunlop Sport Maxx and absolutely love them. Much more quiet and XL 95 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> load rating. A no-brainer with Dunlop's $100 rebate.
 

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Re: Which Tires? (mniba1)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>mniba1</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I recently replaced my GY F1's with 235/40ZR18 Dunlop Sport Maxx and absolutely love them. Much more quiet and XL 95 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> load rating. A no-brainer with Dunlop's $100 rebate.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's most likely what I'll pick for next season.
 

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Re: Which Tires? (lieberd)

Pirelli PZero Nero M+S in 17" considering the roads you say<p>In extensive testing by me they are outstanding for this car in all weather<br>except very bad snow
 

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Re: Which Tires? (Helmut Ranff)

I got NEXEN for those who want to be frugal.<p>Christ, it feels much better than P-zero. and it's only $100 per tire. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Which Tires? (stevectsai)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>stevectsai</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I got NEXEN for those who want to be frugal.<p>Christ, it feels much better than P-zero. and it's only $100 per tire. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>You can get Falken 452's for $105 a tire. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Which Tires? (Rangeball)

all 4 NEXEN tires, $490 installed - out the door (means including mount, disposal, balance, tax)<p>not bad eh?<p>Falkens at $105 is a sweet deal too. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Which Tires? (Rangeball)

i think 200+ for a tire is crazy which is why im going to try the P Zero Nero M+S first after the stock tires go. they were good tires on my s80 and im hoping they will be the same on my R. plus where i live i need a tire that can be driven in all weather conditions including light snow, which is the most it ever snows here.
 

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I have Yokohama AVS ES 100s with about 1500 miles on them now. I can say they are the best bank for the buck performance wise at 148 per tire and excellent wet weather performance. BUT they are the LOUDEST tires you will ever regret buying. If I had to do it over again, I'd have spent $200+ per wheel for the peace and quiet of my Rossos which were pretty good all the way around.
 

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Re: Which Tires? (lieberd)

I recently purchased a set of Kumho MX in 245 45 17 for the stock wheels, and the grip is amazing. The ride is typical of other max performance tires (I previously had SO-3's on another car) and the price was only $108 a tire.<p>I'm not sure if it's the best tire for everyone, but like you, I drive on some rough northeast roads and appreciate the grip and ride.
 

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Re: Which Tires? (lieberd)

I've been running Avon techs 550's on my R for the last 5-600 miles and I'll tell you, they blow away the stock Pirelli's and are reasonibly priced. I had PS2's on my old Sti and they were great tires but I had heard great things about the Avon's and the reviews on Tirerack were good. Saved a ton of cash on them over the PS2's as well. <p>You've got the winter covered, I give props to the Dunlop M3 tire, those were great for both my old Subaru's in the CT snow.....never had a problem with grip
 

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Re: Which Tires? (lieberd)

Replaced the Pz's with Sumitomo's (of all things!) Put 245/17/45's on and love them. The fronts rub now with the wider tread, but not much. I got 20k out of the Pirelli's, didn't really need replaced, but I was about to embark on a 2 week vacation with the family and all our luggage etc., felt the new rubber was a prudent expense. I don't drive the wagon that hard, wanted something quiet, somewhat long lasting, good in rain. The Sumi's fit the bill to a 'T' Got the HTR+, looks nice, and the side hop is absolutely gone. The Pirellis had a 97Y sidewall, these have a 95w. Don't know if the softer sidewall is the difference, but I tried all the things that made it hop in the past, and the hop is gone!! I'm really surprised I like these tires as much as I do, but they do what i want them to. Cost me $520 out the door (tax, balance, disposal, etc.)<br>
 

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Re: Which Tires? (Red60R)

ive been looking at 18" wheels which is what i'll be needing and i discovered that the P zero nero M+S doesnt have a 95 weight rated tire in the 235/40/18 size. the only two that look good to me for a UHP A/S tire are the Avon Tech M550 A/S <A HREF="http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?make=Avon&model=Tech+M550+A%2FS&tirePageLocQty=" TARGET="_blank">http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...cQty=</A><br>and the Kumho ECSTA ASX <A HREF="http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Spec.jsp?make=Kumho&model=ECSTA+ASX&tirePageLocQty=" TARGET="_blank">http://www.tirerack.com/tires/...cQty=</A> which is the one i may end up getting because its got the 95 weight rating and a 420 tread wear rating. i just hope they handle good.
 

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Re: Which Tires? (lieberd)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>lieberd</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">what would be recommended and more importantly, why?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I have used all but the PS2s and the Dunlops, Goodyears and Contis are all excellent tires. The Contis can also be had in a 97 rating for the 17" size. I won't use PS2s because, well...they're Michelins.<p>Currently have the Goodyears and it will be a tossup between those and the Continentals when replacement time comes.<br>
 

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Re: Which Tires? (sk11vengeance)

The 17 Nero M+S have a 94 rating and the 18 have 91.<p>If you do not drive the car at 100 miles per hour fully loaded you<br>would be ok but I would feel better with the 17 myself which is what<br>I have used<p>I like the Kumhos a lot too and are a good choice for 18's
 
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