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Just got an Escort 8500 and I want to hardwire it. I want to put it by my rearview mirror but I'm not sure if the black windshield antenna would interfere. Any suggestions?
 

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Is that whole black section really all antenna?

Currently I am with out a detector - But in my car the previous owner left two strips of Velcro on the black part (uptop to the left) just in front of the mirror.
I figured that was where the detector went - So unless he failed I think you should be OK.

I too would like to hear more from others with greater details and experiance than I as this seems to be a great location to kind of hide it from prying eyes.
 

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Not 100% sure if the whole section is the antenna but it might be. Yeah I don't want to have it sitting on the dash so mounting the detector by the rearview mirror would be perfect.
 

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You should put the detector behind only a CLEAR part of the glass. Don't put it behind a black or blue tinted area! Mine is directly to the left of my rearview mirror, just barely below the blue tinted area.

I hardwired my V1 by running cord along the headliner to the left pillar, down that to the dash, then down into the fuse box area hidden when the driver's door is shut. I just cut a slot in the fuze box door to allow the wire to run in there. I pulled out the block of fuses and spliced into wires and a grounded bolt back there.
 

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http://www.radartest.com/

This site has a different take on where to mount your detector.
Radartest.com
Couldn't find what you're talking about on that site.

My recommendation is what Valentine One recommends.

For radar it doesn't matter where you mount it because radar waves expand/bounce/reflect over a large area, you just need to make sure the sensors have a clear view through your glass.
For laser, you want it mounted high so that when the edge of the beam reflects off the front of your hood, it gets reflected up high so you'll get better laser detection with the detector mounted high not low.
 

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Sorry about the poor web info above...(I was at work)
The site is http://radartest.com/
On the left hand side of the home page there is a link to a PDF called "Picking the Right Detector"

I agree for radar high is good - but they state that for laser lower is good... I really am not an expert but what they stated kind of made sense to me.
They state something to the effect that the laser is a tight beam and they have to hit you with it pretty much head on - they aim at the grill or headlights.... and If you have it mounted high you may miss the signal.

I don't know - Warpedcow's explanation makes sense too.

So mounting it up high behind the black top of the window is bad - bummer this is where I would like it to go. (So I can leave it and it would be out of sight)

The other problem with mounting it up high like that is if it has a rearward facing antenna and does not have a clear line of sight out the rear window it is useless for whats behind you.

I'm open to more input as I currently do not have a detector and really want one.

What is everyone using and what do you recommend?
 

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Sorry about the poor web info above...(I was at work)
they state that for laser lower is good... I really am not an expert but what they stated kind of made sense to me.
They state something to the effect that the laser is a tight beam and they have to hit you with it pretty much head on - they aim at the grill or headlights.... and If you have it mounted high you may miss the signal.
If by laser you mean LIDAR you're pretty much screwed since most detectors are pretty much useless against it (either not able to detect it or just not able to warn you in enough time to do anything about it) and require things like Escort's ZR4 laser shifter. Which sucks because LIDAR is becoming cheaper and more common in law enforcement, and if you have a front mounted plate that reflects like here in MA you're a pretty easy target since they're taught to aim for the plate.
 

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If by laser you mean LIDAR you're pretty much screwed since most detectors are pretty much useless against it (either not able to detect it or just not able to warn you in enough time to do anything about it) and require things like Escort's ZR4 laser shifter. Which sucks because LIDAR is becoming cheaper and more common in law enforcement, and if you have a front mounted plate that reflects like here in MA you're a pretty easy target since they're taught to aim for the plate.
I've gotten early warnings for LIDAR on my V1, however those are a lot less likely to happen than with RADAR. If you're on an empty road and you get hit directly with LIDAR, yeah you've done for!
 

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I've gotten early warnings for LIDAR on my V1, however those are a lot less likely to happen than with RADAR. If you're on an empty road and you get hit directly with LIDAR, yeah you've done for!
So you have a Valentine One - Do you like it?
In some of the online research I have done so far it doesn't get the highest marks - in fact it was towards the low end of the price bracket in which it resides.

I hate to spend 400 plus bucks and be disappointed -
 

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People still buy these?
I would say yep - they do.
In fact I am looking into it again.
I used to have a pretty good Bel unit in my old Mustang GT (It was a 91, 5sp lightly performance modded - got it in 92 drove it for 337K miles) - I beat the Sh!t out of that car every day and always drove it like I stole it. (Some of my friends refused to drive with me - Pussies)
The detector saved me countless times.

Now that I am a bit older, but not a hell of a lot wiser when it comes to highway driving I think I could save my self lawyer fees, fines and court costs by utilizing a detector.

One of the other reasons is due to my children's travel requirements for the competitive soccer club they play for along with Scouting activities - I find my self on unfamiliar roads quite a bit and have been popped a few times too many in the past 18 months. (My normal commute - not a real problem - I know everywhere they could and possibly are)

If I had a heads up about the speed traps ahead, I could have fallen back into the flow instead of being the douche in the Volvo with kids doing 85 in a 70 zone and having to get a lecture from Johny Law. I didn't like lectures from my parents, I don't like them from my wife and I especially don't care to hear it from a fat a$$ ******* trooper with a mouth full of chew.

I think the speed limits are BS (too slow) - please pull over the a$$ hole who is weaving in and out of traffic, or the one tailgating others, or texting, or seat dancing (Yes I call it Seat Dancing - you know the urban types who are getting down to the tunes and are bouncing all over the lane) - these people are a menace - Not the guy or gal who wants to open it up when traffic, road conditions and the vehicle can handle it IMO...

Ya hear me?
 

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Pretty much none of the radar detectors around here even work anymore. I do believe 99% of our police around here use LIDAR.

Also cops are just doing their job. I speed don't get me wrong. But I don't think any of them are trying to ruin your day. Although I will say most of the police I run into are pretty cool guys. I've only had one ticket for speeding and the cop was at court on my behalf and said he heard my car running rough (throttle body was messed up so it was weird). Ended up just getting PBJ and court fees.
 

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I'm not saying all cops are out to get me or you....
I have several friends and acquaintances some are with city and the sheriff department...
I have been pulled countless times over the last (holly crap I'm old) 30 plus years of driving and have been let go with a verbal warning , I would estimate 70 percent of the time.

Now State Troopers here in NC - that's a different story IMO - and The one that has me still POed is a trooper from SC who read me the riot act in front of my boys.
It was a speed trap and I was only one of 4 that were pulled over all in the same spot at the same time.
This guy was a sloppy looking POS and was disrespectful to me out of the gate.

I not a young buck these days and I am always very polite and nice to the guy who pulls me over.
In fact one of the NC troopers who got me a couple of years back said that I was the nicest person he had given a ticket to in a long time.

I know I am breaking the law - So I don't get up in their face about it - I don't make up stories, I just suck it up and call my lawyer to get it reduced to a non moving violation (Improper Equipment = 0 points) The instance in SC was a 6 point offense and the best that I could get with a SC lawyer was a reduction to 2 points. Since they are the only points I have my insurance didn't go up - thank God.
I think everyone knows by now it's about revenue - I have been told by cops that if they write a lot of tickets they get the newer nicer cars... Probability a commission too. HA

I think I have taken this a bit too far off topic - my apologies.

So for those of you who are running with detectors - What unit/brand works for you?
And where do you mount them?

I stated early in the thread that the previous owner had something mounted up high in the black as evident by the two Velcro strips that remain ... I would have to think it was a detector.
Does anyone else have a detector mounted up high behind the black?
 

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Do not mount it in the black, period.

I was running the escort redline high and just behind my mirror but recently moves to the Bel STiR+ installed system.
For radar distance it beats the redline significantly on X and K and somewhat better on Ka.
Laser/Lidar and you are pretty much toast no matter what.
I have escort ZR4 and Laser Interceptor jammers installed as well.
They have saved me repeatedly.
I highly recommend this setup. The money you spend is a fraction of the money you'll save.
Both products Bel and LI are update able by computer interface for product improvements.
 

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So you have a Valentine One - Do you like it?
In some of the online research I have done so far it doesn't get the highest marks - in fact it was towards the low end of the price bracket in which it resides.

I hate to spend 400 plus bucks and be disappointed -
Love it I've had it for about eight years now.
 

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Around here it's still mostly RADAR. Also RADAR is the cops' only option while driving (not sitting still), LIDAR requires stationary platform (for now!)

You guys should download TRAPSTER for your smartphone and USE IT! :) Great paired with a fuzz-buster.
 

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Discussion Starter · #20 ·
I have the hardwire cable for my escort but I'm going to hold off on doing that just because I'm getting another car this week (BMW 335i Xdrive coupe). But I'm not getting rid of the S60!
 
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