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I think I was led astray when I bought this pig. One of the selling points was the supposed better resale value. It ain't so! At least not here in the southwest. <br>I am sick to death of the car. Tired of the rattles and thumps from under it and the final straw was last week when my wife called me because she was stuck on our road. The road was snow packed and she was on a small 6% grade hill and had to slow down for another vehicle. The car would not go up the hill at all and preceded to slide back down sideways. She was pissed and panicked. Apparently the big brother DSTC had kicked in and prevented her from moving. After I calmed her down I was able to talk her into turning the DSTC off and getting a run at the hill. Very aggravating. All I have heard since is "why did you ever make me get rid of the Sequoia, I want it gone and I want a Toy or a Subaru".<br> Anyway now that that is out of the way. We are finding that the best we can do on a trade is 33K. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> I have done a lot of back checking and this a valid number as they can be had at auction for 32-33 all day long. Even the dealer I bought from won't give me more than 32 for it.<br>I cannot sell it locally. You would have to live here to understand.<br>Anybody want it for 38K? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>
 

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Re: Where is the resale value I believed in? (Aztecian)

I'd gather that gas prices has put a drag on the resale value of ANY SUV..........
 

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Re: Where is the resale value I believed in? (1sttimevolvo)

First year depreciation is the biggest, so you might be doing okay... and of course, depending on how many miles you've rolled.
 

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Re: Where is the resale value I believed in? (Aztecian)

The resale is in third party deals - rarely in trade. The XC90's residuals are good compared to other luxo cross-overs but you will always expect the short end of the stick getting rid of a car so new. Compare a 3 year old XC90 to a comparable 3 year old SUV and you'll find it does fine for residuals.
 

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Re: Where is the resale value I believed in? (Duett)

The fact that it is a T6 does not help either.
 

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Re: Where is the resale value I believed in? (rollie)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>rollie</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The resale is in third party deals - rarely in trade. The XC90's residuals are good compared to other luxo cross-overs but you will always expect the short end of the stick getting rid of a car so new. Compare a 3 year old XC90 to a comparable 3 year old SUV and you'll find it does fine for residuals.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I don't think the family CFO is going to let me keep it two more years. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>I'm also finding that a few dealers still have new 05s on the lot with DEEP discounts.
 

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Re: Where is the resale value I believed in? (Aztecian)

Your wife is right! You want a good snow vehicle go with a Toyota or Subaru. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Where is the resale value I believed in? (alj)

Our T6 with 33,000 miles is worth around $32,000 private party. But, we only paid $40,000 to begin with.
 

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Re: Where is the resale value I believed in? (david)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>david</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Our T6 with 33,000 miles is worth around $32,000 private party. But, we only paid $40,000 to begin with.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Unfortunately, the dealer will not offer "Private Party" value on trade in which is what the original poster was lamenting.
 

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Re: Where is the resale value I believed in? (Aztecian)

You could always just buy snow tires for it. The stock tires are awful in the snow, but the vehicle is very capable with the right tires.
 

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Re: Where is the resale value I believed in? (Aztecian)

I think this is your best bet. Find a private party buyer (you might have to expand the search area and post in the major city in NM) and get a bargain on an '05. (We dumped our '03 T6 for a year-end '05 V8.)
 

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Re: Where is the resale value I believed in? (rollie)

Well I just cut a fairly good deal on a HiHy Limited. 2K Less than sticker.<br>We will see, I guess. I am fully aware that some are not seeing the advertised mileage on the Hybrid. But my wife is the primary driver and she always gets better than advertised on everything we have ever owned. Her driving is split about 50/50 and she averaged 17.6 for the Sequoia and 18.5 on the Volvo. I expect that she will get within 95% of the 29 combined on the HiHy.<br>It just seems that I should do my part to counter the current administrations policies of late. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> So we will try green.<p>For the poster who suggested new tires. I did just purchase a new set of 255/55R-18 Pirelli Scorpion Ice and Snow. Didn't matter though. sliding backwards down the hill ruined the car forever in my Wife's eyes. The tires will come off before the trade and wait on a set of 18" wheels for the Toy. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Where is the resale value I believed in? (Aztecian)

Congrats on the new vehicle. It will be interesting to see if the traction improves since the Highlander is also a FWD based AWD system versus the Sequoia she dearly misses.
 

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Re: Where is the resale value I believed in? (MagoonR)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MagoonR</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Congrats on the new vehicle. It will be interesting to see if the traction improves since the Highlander is also a FWD based AWD system versus the Sequoia she dearly misses.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>I have got to weigh in on that. The haldex in the Volvo is not very smooth. Apparently Volvo thinks so too or they wouldn't have changed it to the pre-charged version. I have witnessed ours shift in and out multiple times on one short road. It senses slippage and engages(abruptly), the slippage goes away so it disengages, slippage returns and.....you get the picture. The fact that it shifts so abruptly cause the car to loose traction and put you at the mercy of Big Brother DSTC. Personally I have no problem kicking the DSTC off, prior to getting in a bind, and making the car do what I want it to. Try explaining that to a women though! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> I assume that the Toy, since it is an electric motor, will be much smoother. Again We'll see.
 

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Re: Where is the resale value I believed in? (Aztecian)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Aztecian</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The haldex in the Volvo is not very smooth. Apparently Volvo thinks so too or they wouldn't have changed it to the pre-charged version. I have witnessed ours shift in and out multiple times on one short road. It senses slippage and engages(abruptly), the slippage goes away so it disengages, slippage returns and.....you get the picture.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Tires. The Haldex is doing the best it can. I agree with others that you could give the XC90 an $800 tire upgrade and have made your wife a Happy Camper.<p>Oh well, enjoy the Toy.<p>Tom.
 

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Re: Where is the resale value I believed in? (Aztecian)

Why blame the vehicle for what is a tire problem? Just buy some snow tires, it will cost far less than trading to something else. What ever you trade to will have the same issue if you don't have winter tires on it, now THAT is a waste of money.
 

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Re: Where is the resale value I believed in? (Carbsumer)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Carbsumer</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">You could always just buy snow tires for it. The stock tires are awful in the snow, but the vehicle is very capable with the right tires.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>He is right. I live in Vermont and have a dedicated set of Gislaved Nordfrost IIIs and they do fine. You should see my 1200 foot driveway... quite steep in sections. The tires now have three winters on them and the vehicle is just starting to get squirrelly, but it still does fine. I've stopped dead on my driveway on about a 10% grade (I think) with 8 inches of snow and had no problem. One of these days I’ll take pics of what I have to go through to get home. The 90 is not as good as my 4Runner in knee deep snow, but with the right tires, it is very capable.<br>
 

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Re: Where is the resale value I believed in? (VolvoStew)

I had my V8 in Austria this past January driving stock 18" tires on packed snow and ice with zero problems. I was quite impressed by how smoothly the system took us up steep (7-10% grade) snow-covered roads with out a second thought. I did feels the DSTC kick in from time to time to keep a wheel from spinning, but other than that, it was rock-solid driving.<p>A single data-point does not a trend make, but so far, I have been VERY happy with my V8's on-snow performance. I can only imagine how much better it is with real snow tires. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/cool.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Where is the resale value I believed in? (ss60)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ss60</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Why blame the vehicle for what is a tire problem? Just buy some snow tires, it will cost far less than trading to something else. What ever you trade to will have the same issue if you don't have winter tires on it, now THAT is a waste of money.</TD></TR></TABLE> <br>Didn't he say it had Pirelli Scorpion Ice and Snow tires? Not the best snow tires but a lot better than stock. Sounds to me like driver error and a blame-the-car reaction.
 
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