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Okay, as the owner of the worlds dustiest brakes and also being one of the more anal car owners out there, I've been looking for ways to help with my brake dust problem on my S60 R. I love these brakes and love the performance of them, BUT they are so dusty, you can't go a day without a quick detail of either Speed Shine or Z8. <p>So, I have been researching and reading and reading and researching and I've heard Wheel Wax pop up numerous times. But, it's not the easiest stuff in the world to find. Well, I was at the Volvo dealer last Saturday buying our XC90 and I noticed they had it in the parts department so I bought some. Well, today is day one of the experiment. <p>I did as they say, I cleaned the rims and applied two coats to the front and one to the rear. I thought I'd post pictures now and tomorrow night after a day of driving and then wednesday and so on, as long as it doesn't rain. So, without further ado, here we go. <p>Product<br><IMG SRC="http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2295/4641/30737320084_medium.jpg" BORDER="0"> <p><IMG SRC="http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2295/4641/30737320085_medium.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2295/4641/30737320086_large.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Front Driver's Rim<br><IMG SRC="http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2295/4641/30737320080_large.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2295/4641/30737320081_large.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Rear Driver's Rim<br><IMG SRC="http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2295/4641/30737320082_large.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2295/4641/30737320083_medium.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Wheel Wax Experiment (Husker Z)

I think you'll be pleased with it. Every dealer I've worked for sold it, and we also included an application of it on all of the new cars we sold. It won't keep the wheels completely dust free, but it makes cleaning them a lot easier. It was very popular at the Volvo/Land Rover dealer as it was never in stock. Since I started as a detailer at age 16 I got to know the product early on, and trust me- much less elbow grease was needed to keep Land Rover wheels clean. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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It sure went on and came off easy, I know that. I didn't figure it would "repel" the dust as it claims, but if it washes off easily, I'll be sold. I hate having to speed shine the rims every time, I know that.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Husker Z</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">It sure went on and came off easy, I know that. I didn't figure it would "repel" the dust as it claims, but if it washes off easily, I'll be sold. I hate having to speed shine the rims every time, I know that. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I think most owners of heavy dust cars (Rovers, Porsches, Volvos, and etc) try that for a few weeks and eventually give up..lol The worst dust I recall was Land Rovers. Often they'd come in with exterior matching black wheels when they came in for service. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <br> <br>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nobbe3728</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>I think most owners of heavy dust cars (Rovers, Porsches, Volvos, and etc) try that for a few weeks and eventually give up..lol The worst dust I recall was Land Rovers. Often they'd come in with exterior matching black wheels when they came in for service. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <br> <br> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>I really just want something that keeps it from sticking, or at least helps. I wash both pretty often, so if I can get something that will help it to rinse off, I'll be pleased. We'll see I guess.
 

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No doubt in my mind...you'll be pleased. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>BTW, how much did they charge for the stuff? Used to be $20.00 here..
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nobbe3728</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">No doubt in my mind...you'll be pleased. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>BTW, how much did they charge for the stuff? Used to be $20.00 here..</TD></TR></TABLE><p>$14.99. The guy behind the counter had to look it up as he said it was the first time he'd sold any. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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They also have a carnuba based shampoo for wheels too..never used it though. IMO regular car wash soap cleans them just as well.
 

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End Of Day 1 - Results

Okay, so at the end of day one, here are the results. I made a single wipe to show you the accumulation from today and then I simply wiped them with a microfiber, no detail spray, just a dry wipe. <p>Overall, the "repel" part of the product is nil, which I expected to be honest with you, you really can't repel that stuff. But, I'm very impressed with the way they simply wiped clean with no help at all. I only did the driver's side so I can use the passenger side as my test side for when I actually wash the car, I want to see if that dust will just rinse away as the product says. So, here are some pics and this concludes day 1.<p>Single wipe - Lots of dust for just one day.<br><IMG SRC="http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2295/4641/30737320097_large.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2295/4641/30737320099_large.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>Back tire wiped clean and the dust on the towel.<br><IMG SRC="http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2295/4641/30737320101_large.jpg" BORDER="0"><p>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Turbos60</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Just get ceramic brake pads and you wont have to worry about brake dust for 2-3 weeks.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>What's the fun in that? Then I wouldn't be able to do an experiment with Wheel Wax. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/zeroforum_graphics/screwy.gif" BORDER="0"> No, I will on my next set of brakes, but why spend $300-$400 when you don't have to?
 

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Okay, well it rained this morning and made the rims look TERRIBLE by mixing with the brake dust. So, I thought I'd pull through the automatic wash on 95th st, just west of Antioch to see if it washes off easily. Normally, I'll have to hit them with a rag and speed shine because it usually just smears the dust and makes it look worse. <p>Well, take a look for yourself, I'm actually very surprised and VERY happy with it. <p><IMG SRC="http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2295/4641/30737320102_large.jpg" BORDER="0"><p><IMG SRC="http://memimage.cardomain.com/ride_images/3/2295/4641/30737320103_medium.jpg" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Husker Z</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"> <p>Well, take a look for yourself, I'm actually very surprised and VERY happy with it. <p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Knew you would be.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>nobbe3728</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Knew you would be.. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>Yes, I'm pleasantly surprised. I actually washed it at the local scratch and scrub a couple of days ago and was amazed that the dust simply rinsed away without using the foam brush. <p>Consider me sold! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/embeer.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Husker Z</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br> I actually washed it at the local <B>scratch </B>and scrub a couple of days ago...<br> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>That's a terrible name for a car wash! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>rushin_max</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>That's a terrible name for a car wash! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><p>That's just what I call those car washes. But, this one is actually very nice and I use it often, at least when I don't want to hand wash it.<br>
 

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Husker - thanks for taking the time to post this info... gave me a bit of an education. Nice work on the photography too. You obviously know something about focus and exposure.<p>Here's my question though. I finally was able to get out and give my V70's wheels a good winter scrubbing now that the weather is improving. The wheels were filthy with horrendous, sticky, gummy dust buildup. Do you have any recommendations for safe/effective "deep" cleaning prior to the wheel wax application?<p>Over the years I've collected various scrub brushes for our various cars. Many of them have come from the kitchen and bath sections of stores, being durable, and nicely shaped for those difficult wheel angles. I generally use the brushes with elbow grease and soap, but a friend recommended bar Keeper's friend for stubborn grime. The abrasiveness of Ajax or Comet would mar the surface. But Bar Keepers is designed for higher end SS polished cookware and won't scratch. Any thoughts on this? Thanks in advance. - Stu
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>sapearl</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Husker - thanks for taking the time to post this info... gave me a bit of an education. Nice work on the photography too. You obviously know something about focus and exposure.<p>Here's my question though. I finally was able to get out and give my V70's wheels a good winter scrubbing now that the weather is improving. The wheels were filthy with horrendous, sticky, gummy dust buildup. Do you have any recommendations for safe/effective "deep" cleaning prior to the wheel wax application?<p>Over the years I've collected various scrub brushes for our various cars. Many of them have come from the kitchen and bath sections of stores, being durable, and nicely shaped for those difficult wheel angles. I generally use the brushes with elbow grease and soap, but a friend recommended bar Keeper's friend for stubborn grime. The abrasiveness of Ajax or Comet would mar the surface. But Bar Keepers is designed for higher end SS polished cookware and won't scratch. Any thoughts on this? Thanks in advance. - Stu</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No problem on posting the experiment, I enjoyed it. I have to laugh on the knowledge on the photography though, I kick myself everyday because I don't know how to take good pics. I have a Rebel XT digital SLR that will do so much, but I just point and shoot. I have a book, but I just haven't sat down and read/learn.<p>The best thing I did was take the rims off and get a pretty abrasive wheel cleaner paste and used my Mother's Power Ball to do the inside of the rim. It did leave a few bumps and other debris, but I just picked them off and hand scrubbed what was left. Then put the wheel wax on from there. Mother's makes some nice wheel cleaner paste that won't harm the finish, but it pretty aggressive. <p>It's much easier with the rims off though and once you have a nice coat of wax on them, the dust is so much easier to clean off. <p>Good luck, let us know how it goes! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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That's some good info on the Mother's paste - again thanks for the tip.<p>I realize the right and thorough way to clean the rims is to do as you say - disassembly, and I admire your energy - but I probably won't be taking it to that level <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> . Looks like I've just added another item to my shopping list though along with the wheel wax.<p>You do quite well with your Rebel; it's a workhorse for many folks and no slouch in it's ability to take good pictures in skilled hands. I have two 5D's that I use for my wedding and social event work (now replaced by MkII) and a used one would be a wonderful upgrade path for you. Most of my time online time is spent on a quite active forum photography forum for Canon users ( <A HREF="http://photography-on-the.net/forum/index.php" TARGET="_blank">http://photography-on-the.net/forum/index.php</A> ) so I'm always appreciative of these public forums. I just wish Sweedspeed had a little more "traffic." <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Again thanks, and feel free to PM or email me anytime if you have photography questions. I appreciate what you've contributed here and would be happy to reciprocate on another topic near and dear to my heart <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/cool.gif" BORDER="0"> . - Stu <p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Husker Z</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>No problem on posting the experiment, I enjoyed it. I have to laugh on the knowledge on the photography though, I kick myself everyday because I don't know how to take good pics. I have a Rebel XT digital SLR that will do so much, but I just point and shoot. I have a book, but I just haven't sat down and read/learn.<p>The best thing I did was take the rims off and get a pretty abrasive wheel cleaner paste and used my Mother's Power Ball to do the inside of the rim. ...... </TD></TR></TABLE>
 
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