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My son has worked the summer and has gotten himself a Nice looking 1999 V70 AWD wagon so he can get to and from Buffalo for school. We live in Brooklyn. My only concern is the fact the car has 150K miles on it. It seems to have been well taken care of and the seller told him they where mostly highway miles. My question to one and all, How long before the engine goes? I know it all depends but I'm looking for an average. Also is there anything we could do to make it last longer. I dont have to tell you that gets COLD in Buffalo so I told him he has to give it a chance to warm up before taking off. But is their any thing that we could do. I always hear a lot about the timing belt on high milage cars. Is it that big a job to change it before it goes or should we just let it ride and take it easy on it. Thanks for any help
 

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The engines in most Volvos, especially those 5 cylinder ones are basically bullet-proof. Run a good quality synthetic oil and you'll be set. Since it's really cold, use a lower weight oil like 5W-30. <p>As far as warming it up... If it's really cold, I'll just let it idle no more than 30 seconds, then drive gently until it's at operating temp. Main thing to avoid is really revving it or going fast on highway when it isn't at normal operating temperature.<p>Timing belt can be a toughy if you haven't done it before. I haven't attempted it, and I don't think I will. But it is doable with the many good resources on this forum and others. <p>When was the TB last done? It should have been done at 105K. If not, then you need to do it NOW! Otherwise the engine WILL die. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> And it doesn't matter if you're easy on it or not; if it breaks at idle you're still screwed. <p>Got service records?
 

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Re: Whats the Kid know? (Big Poluka)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Big Poluka</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">... Nice looking 1999 V70 AWD wagon...<br>... the car has 150K miles on it. It seems to have been well taken care of and the seller told him they where mostly highway miles. My question to one and all, How long before the engine goes? I know it all depends but I'm looking for an average. Also is there anything we could do to make it last longer....</TD></TR></TABLE><p>No worries...This particular series is very reliable, takes very little maintenance, hardly ever has "issues", and will last forever.<p>OK, not really.<p>Up above, there is a "buying guide" posted by Volvie, intended for viewing pre-purchase, but there is some info on there that may help you/your son. Records are very helpful in determining how well the car was cared for, "nice looking" or not & will also show if certain "issues" were already taken care of. I have never owned an AWD Volvo, but I have heard that they can have issues all their own (in addition to all the other fun things we have to deal with).<p>I don't know if I would recommend putting synthetic in a high mileage engine, if it has used dino oil for 150k already. I am no expert, but some have said this can lead to a bad case of the 'drips'.<p>At least he has a solid, safe ride, which is why I put 1 of my sons into a Volvo & am 'saving' another for his younger brother (finally, a way to dump the NA with a little dignity!).<p>Scroll around here & you should see other topics that may be helpful & good luck w/ your son's car.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>ecbsykes</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">The engines in most Volvos, especially those 5 cylinder ones are basically bullet-proof. Run a good quality synthetic oil and you'll be set. Since it's really cold, use a lower weight oil like 5W-30. <p><B>Synthetic is a Very good thing in cold climates. I've done well with Mobil 1 5W-30</B><p>As far as warming it up... If it's really cold, I'll just let it idle no more than 30 seconds, then drive gently until it's at operating temp. Main thing to avoid is really revving it or going fast on highway when it isn't at normal operating temperature.<p><B>30 SECONDS? You really DO live in San Diego!<br>There's not a dang thing wrong with longer idle times. <br>( MUCH longer if it's really cold out. -30? 30 minutes...No Problem. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> )<br>If it's between 0-32 above, I'd go AT LEAST five minutes. Heat that oil.<br>And hopefully, he's got the seat heaters. LOVE the Heated Seats!!! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </B><p>Timing belt can be a toughy if you haven't done it before. I haven't attempted it, and I don't think I will. But it is doable with the many good resources on this forum and others. <p>When was the TB last done? It should have been done at 105K. If not, then you need to do it NOW! Otherwise the engine WILL die. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> And it doesn't matter if you're easy on it or not; if it breaks at idle you're still screwed. <p><B>Absolutely. These motors are ticking time bombs with old belts.</B><p>Got service records?</TD></TR></TABLE><p>The AWD also <I>must</I> have matching tires. Be sure they're all the same <br>or it won't be AWD for long... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> The AWD is truly an asset, though.<br>Totally worth having for ice and snow. Great Cars! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Oh yeah...Read up on the ETM's in these cars. Kind of a bummer that begins that year.<p><A HREF="http://www.matthewsvolvosite.com/forums/viewforum.php?f=12" TARGET="_blank">http://www.matthewsvolvosite.c...?f=12</A><BR><BR>
<i>Modified by BEJinFbk at 7:03 AM 7-30-2009</i>
 

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Usually I am in complete agreement with the above poster on things like the AWD system etc.<p>However, letting the car warm up by idle is not necessary nor is it a particularly good thing for these cars. A minute or two is fine in very very cold conditions and relative to Brooklyn, yes Buffalo gets cold. Driving the car gently will properly warm up the engine more efficiently than than just letting it idle.<p>Have the AWD system checked out by someone who knows these cars well, be it the dealer or an independent. There are several good ones in the NY/NJ area.
 

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Well, I'm always confused about idle times before driving. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Some people like to idle it 20 minutes sometimes which is really a huge waste of gas. But driving off 2 seconds after the car starts in cold weather is not good...<p>The one thing I hear the most though, is to just drive the car gently to warm it up instead of just sitting there. Warms up faster and if you have a good syn winter oil, you should be fine.
 

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Re: (ecbsykes)

close your wastegate one to two turns which helps it spool faster and increases backpressure at idle making it warm up faster too
 

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I'm on board with Big Will (sorry BEJ) The oil in a vehicle warms up more slowly than the coolant and until it's around 100C it just collects water. Better to go & drive it gently.<p>That said, at the end of the world ("BEJ land") a block heater and a little warm up would help. Synthetics, especially those with PAO basestocks, and their low pour points are the way to go.<p>Contrary to popular belief, Buffalo is not that cold; not AK cold. But your son better like snow--and take some time in an empty parking lot learning how to drive in it.
 

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First Volvo in the family? That kid has a good head on his shoulders. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"><br>They are different, but mostly in a good way.<br>Definitely not your average disposable Japanese/Korean car.<p>You have a lot of good advice here. I particularly agree with:<br>A good quality FULL SYNTHETIC oil (Mobil 1, et al.). Especially with a turbo, in a harsh Buffalo environment. It's likely you won't have any more leaks than you had before.<br>+100 on verifying the age of the timing belt, and if you can't or it's past the change interval, DO IT TODAY - with tensioner and a water pump for good measure.<br>Make sure all the fluid changes are up to date, especially transmission.<br>Again, if you're not sure, have it done.<br>The AWD caution about the tires matching is a good tip.<p>Unless it's lower than -15F, just start it, buckle up, check your mirrors, and proceed <I>easy</I> until full warmup.<p>These engines will go well over 200K with only average attention to maintenance. With diligent maintenance, they can and do go a lot farther than that. It's the 'other' stuff that usually knocks them off the road, like driveline maladies after the owner failed to maintain, and then didn't want to pay to fix it later.<p>If the PO truly maintained it and your son continues that, I'll bet on this car to have many, many happy miles ahead. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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I'll be the first to admit that our conditions are a mite different in these parts.<br>And above 20 or 30 degrees, I rarely wait more than a minute or so.<br>But when the glass gets cold, and fogging can be a problem, I let it run.<br>A few pennies of gas is worth good visibilty in my book. A longer idle time<br> also gets P/S, tranny and everything under the hood a little warmer.<br>The whole car is just easier to deal with when it's warmer. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/cool.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Block heater? Installed before the car left the states! <br>To the OP, this is a Volvo Specific Part. <br>The local parts store will just give you a blank stare. <br>I also run silicone heat pads on the oil pan and tranny. <br>I plug in whenever it's below 20. I like a Happy Car.<p>I really enjoy this wagon and fully intend to drive it into the ground.<br>I'm doing all that I can to be sure that it's happy! <br>Did I mention the Heated Seats? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/wink.gif" BORDER="0"> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>MrTippy</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">I'm on board with Big Will (sorry BEJ) The oil in a vehicle warms up more slowly than the coolant and until it's around 100C it just collects water. Better to go & drive it gently.<p>That said, at the end of the world ("BEJ land") a block heater and a little warm up would help. Synthetics, especially those with PAO basestocks, and their low pour points are the way to go.<p><br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>This is correct. <p>A block heater is not necessary unless the car larks outside and it's BELOW 0 art night on a regular basis.<p>Most of the time my garage is full so my drivers sit under a carport.<br>In the winter and when I have the time, I let them run for at least 5-7 minutes so the seats can get warm and the water to the middle of the gauge but you CAN count to 30 and SLOWLY drive off because the temp will come up faster if the car is actually driven, not idling!<br>In the winter the oil (on most all cars) is usually not up to operating temperature for at least <br><B>20 minutes,</B><br> summer, 5 to10 minutes<br>When I was younger (and richer) I had a bunch or Porsches and Ferraris.<br>It was interesting to watch the Ferrari's oil temp gauge, in SoCal (warm) it took 20 minutes to get it to 190 degrees, only then did I use 2nd gear and go to near redline
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>A block heater is not necessary unless the car larks outside and it's BELOW 0 art night on a regular basis.<p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>I am going to have to have a serious talk with my car about "larking" about outside when it's cold!<br>Great Scott, it's 11 years old now and Should Know Better! Kids... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0"> Whatcha gonna do...<p><br><I><B>Disclaimer:</B> SwedeSpeed bears NO Responsibility for <br>the display of BEJ's lame sense of humor as posted above.<br>His bizarre quirks are obviously the result of extreme cold<br>experienced during the 'Most Deadly Winters in North America".<br>( No connection WHATSOEVER with Ice Road Truckers...)<br>That and faaaaaar too much exposure to the recent forest <br>fire smoke that just won't friggin' go away! -Thank You. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> </I>
 

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LOL nice <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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