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My Silver 2000 V70R will be hitting 90K in a couple of weeks or so (now 89,600).<br>Everything's already been done within the past 6K miles, T-belt, plugs, Seafoam, fluids, filters, brake flush, tranny flushes and drain and fills, etc.<br>It runs and drives 110%.<p>I finally got around to fixing the two minor cosmetic flaws it had, (repainted the rear bumper and one rocker panel. The car looks and runs like it has 1/4 the miles but still, it's going to hit 90K!<p>Should I keep it, (now fairly irreplacable in this condition except for the member who found one with 30k miles!), sell it to someone who wants one of the best V70R's on the planet for a fair and reasonable (ie: HIGH <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/sly.gif" BORDER="0"> price as it really IS one of the best in the world) or wait until it hits 100K and I become totally depressed?
 

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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (JRL)

I feel your pain.... But if you like the car they way it drives an all then keep it... however I would probably sell as I do not like being with the same car for too long.<p>I've tried selling mine without success... so I made the decision to make it even nicer, so it is like a different car <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>I did fix the Steering Rack, and you were right it drives even better… I cannot wait for the spacer to come it so I can put my summer tires on <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>I think you should try selling for whatever price you want, and if it does not sell keep it.<p>Tuff decision though!!! Good Luck!!<br>
 

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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (dicostal)

Well, you still have the black, so if you sell it you've still got a nice Gen 1.<br>You're right at that tipping point, 100K is only a psychological milestone but it seems to be a big one for people looking to buy, even if the car is an outstanding one. I know my CU won't loan on anything over 100K. And this market right now, ugh... (although I passed on an admittedly beautiful '99 with <B>140K</B> for my daughter, that eventually sold for <B>$6400 !!!</B>) Blew me away but you just have to find the one right buyer, I guess.<p>I think I would just keep driving it and keep looking for that unicorn, the super-low-mile one. Every time I'm certain there can't be any more left, one seems to pop up. You have the connections to find it.<p>Or a Cassis... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (Bearclaw)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Bearclaw</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>Or a Cassis... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>TWO (2) in the entire US as far as we all know<p>The black is my wife's and she's not giving it up anytime soon. <br>She likes Gen 1 wagons as well ( or even better) than I do!<br>The perfect car size for her with tremendous load capabilities.<br>The black one is here for the long haul, I may even paint it<B> white </B>or some interesting color that's easier to keep clean than black is.<br>A WHITE R, hmmm........ <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/rolleyes.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (JRL)

Ohhhh NOOOOO, I hope you're just joking. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> Color changes are really expensive to do right, and even then they're not "right", IMO.<br>Can't blame her for liking it so much. Best all-around vehicle I've ever had, and people can't believe the performance. I like the look on their faces when they ride in it, they're just not expecting it. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"><br> <br>AND, far and away the most comfortable car I've ever had, or ridden in.<br>I MIGHT give it up if I could afford an XC60, but for now... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emlove.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (Bearclaw)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...The car looks and runs like it has 1/4 the miles but still, it's going to hit 90K!</TD></TR></TABLE><p>90k? Pfffft, that ain't nothin' ! I drove your car, and my wife's identical wagon, with 134k, drives every bit as nice. No fooling. <p>There's nothing magical about mileage. Just keep up on the maintenance and you're golden.
 

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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (Bearclaw)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Bearclaw</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Ohhhh NOOOOO, I hope you're just joking. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> Color changes are really expensive to do right, and even then they're not "right", IMO.<br> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>MY color changes are <B>ALWAYS</B> "right".<br>(I've been doing this a long time)
 

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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (JRL)

I'd keep it if I were you. It's worth more as a solid dependable, good performing and good looking car than what the resale value is worth.<p>V70r's are hard to come by as it is and to already have one you trust and are familiar with and have no wierd mechanical issues with is a very good thing...<p>That being said, both of our S70 T5's were bought with a little over 90K on them and they didn't have their stage 0's done yet so that was more $$ out of our pockets, the wife's is a 99 so we had to have the ETM fix done (that was before the lawsuit covered it) etc... etc..<p>Both of ours have just passed 120k and it's more or less past the point of no return. Her's is totally paid off and with any luck, mine will be by the end of the year or shortly there after and there are few things as satisfying as sending off that final car payment.<p>Although yours is still probably worth something, IMO, the piece of mind I mentioned it giving you earlier in my post outweighs the selling benefits IMO.<p>Unless you can trade it for a 98 V70R 5 speed <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/cool.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (AuburnT5)

I sure hope you sent Volvo your receipts for the ETM, every nickel you spent is reimbursed
 

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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (JRL)

I didn't spend anything. This was when I was engaged to the wife and her dad was still making the payments and that was one of them I believe. He got re-imbursed for it I think but we got a letter last weekend saying their records indicate it hasn't been done yet. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/redface.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (JRL)

<br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>MY color changes are <B>ALWAYS</B> "right".<br>(I've been doing this a long time)</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Then you know that it has to be COMPLETELY disassembled and stripped to do it right = $$$$. The factory sprays paint in places you couldn't dream of getting to. And even then, I'm pretty damn picky and can't stomach taking a part off and seeing the "real" color underneath. And if you don't strip it and it chips and shows the color under the top coat... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> It's okay for some people but not for me.<br>
 

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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (Bearclaw)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Bearclaw</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p><br>Then you know that it has to be COMPLETELY disassembled and stripped to do it right = $$$$. The factory sprays paint in places you couldn't dream of getting to. And even then, I'm pretty damn picky and can't stomach taking a part off and seeing the "real" color underneath. And if you don't strip it and it chips and shows the color under the top coat... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> It's okay for some people but not for me.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>I had a very rare Porsche about 20 years ago<br>(1988 factory slant nose tubo targa one of 14 built, bought it with 4K miles)<br>It was Prussian Blue.<br>For those (most) of you who don't know the color it was a hideous blue.<br>I painted it Grand Prix white, (Porsche white at the time) cost me about 12K twenty years ago! I took it apart to a shell, engine out, etc.<br>When I sold it, it went to a Porsche dealer <B>who thought it was the original color!<br>(There were no paint codes on the body then)</B>.<p>I'm quite aware how cars are built and how to change color on them.<p>I've also changed colors on an older Ferrari (again, no one knew and it too was sold to a Ferrari dealer) so I think I can manage painting a Volvo if I wish to do so.<br><BR><BR>
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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (Bearclaw)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Bearclaw</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Or a Cassis... <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> </TD></TR></TABLE><br><IMG SRC="http://i267.photobucket.com/albums/ii298/R410a/todays002.jpg" BORDER="0"><br>hmmm HOT <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I had a very rare Porsche about 20 years ago<br>(1998 factory slant nose tubo targa one of 14 built, bought it with 4K miles)<br>It was Prussian Blue.<br>For those (most) of you who don't know the color it was a hideous blue.<br>I painted it Grand Prix white, (Porsche white at the time) cost me about 12K twenty years ago! I took it apart to a shell, engine out, etc.<br>When I sold it, it went to a Porsche dealer <B>who thought it was the original color!<br>(There were no paint codes on the body then)</B>.<p>I'm quite aware how cars are built and how to change color on them.<p>I've also changed colors on an older Ferrari (again, no one knew and it too was sold to a Ferrari dealer) so I think I can manage painting a Volvo if I wish to do so.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Fair enough, but wow, a lot of work on a an old Vovo wagon. You would have a one-of-a-kind, but a big commitment in time and $$$.<br>And black is a great R-wagon color, IMO. I wouldn't do it to that one.<br>There are too many silvers running around. Do it to one of those! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>How come you didn't keep the Porsche? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">...<br>For those (most) of you who don't know the color it was a hideous blue.<br>...</B>.</TD></TR></TABLE><br>Wow, I think all their blues were good-looking. I always thought Prussian Blue was pretty sharp, actually. <br>Very similar to Petrol Blue - and Venetian Blue <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emlove.gif" BORDER="0"> <p><br><i>Modified by Bearclaw at 8:54 AM 4-8-2009</i><BR><BR>
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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (Bearclaw)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Bearclaw</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><p>How come you didn't keep the Porsche? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/confused.gif" BORDER="0"> <br><B>HAD IT FOR NEARLY 7 YEARS, THAT'S A LONG TIME. SOLD IT IN 96 OR SO</B><p>I always thought Prussian Blue was pretty sharp, actually. <br>Very similar to Petrol Blue.<br><B>NOOOOOOO! NOT EVEN CLOSE. PRUSSIAN HAD A LOT OF PURPLE IN IT AND LOOKED AWFUL WITH A LIGHT TAN INTERIOR.<br>PETROL IS MORE LIKE A FRENCH (PETTY) BLUE, BUT ALSO LOOKED BAD WITH TAN</B><p></TD></TR></TABLE><p>After paint and it is a <B>1988,</B> not 1998 <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vortexmediagroup.com/images/banghead.gif" BORDER="0"> (myself)<br><A HREF="http://img208.imageshack.us/my.php?image=1988porschett.jpg" TARGET="_blank"><IMG SRC="http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8710/1988porschett.th.jpg" BORDER="0"></A><br><BR><BR>
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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (JRL)

Verrrrry nice! Love targa's the best. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Yeah, they all look better with black, except maybe the dark ones like a Midnight Blue. Many of the later 3.2's and beyond seemed to be ordered with lighter interiors (Dove Grey, Linen), and a lot of guys just hate those, I'm not sure why. I think they look good with a lot of colors. But I digress...<p>Still think you should just keep the silver the way it is and look for that ultra-low-mile one out there somewhere. Keep it as like a museum piece. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/cool.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (Bearclaw)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Bearclaw</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br> ...seemed to be ordered with lighter interiors (Dove Grey, <B>Linen), </B>and a lot of guys just hate those, I'm not sure why. I think they look good with a lot of colors. But I digress...<p> </TD></TR></TABLE><br>Linen sucks.<br>I bought an '87 white/linen Turbo coupe (sight unseen) that had about 10-12K miles (I forget), the interior already was junk and uncleanable <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Sold it almost immediately, ugly interior <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>It doesn't look good with anything IMO<p>On my white targa I changed the carpets to black with tan piping and installed black piping on the tan seats, it looked awesome as the dash, the lower half of the door panels and the (small) center console was also black.<br>
 

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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (JRL)

<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JRL</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Linen sucks.<br>I bought an '87 white/linen Turbo coupe (sight unseen) that had about 10-12K miles (I forget), the interior already was junk and uncleanable <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>Sold it almost immediately, ugly interior <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthdown.gif" BORDER="0"> <br>It doesn't look good with anything IMO<p>On my white targa I changed the carpets to black with tan piping and installed black piping on the tan seats, it looked awesome as the dash, the lower half of the door panels and the (small) center console was also black.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Sounds good. I could see it.<p>Holt has a '92 right now, it's Tahoe Blue and I thought it was Linen int., turns out it's Light Grey. I think it looks outstanding, but he's had it a long, long time. Could be pricing but could be the interior too. Light colors are tough for the average person to keep clean and looking good. People seems to like the Tahoe blue.<br> <A HREF="http://www.holtmotorsports.com/inventory/1992-Porsche-964-C2-Coupe/420355" TARGET="_blank">http://www.holtmotorsports.com...20355</A>
 

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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (Bearclaw)

Yuck.<br>Bad color combination, bad cars, (964's in general), unloved and undesirable.<br>That sure looks like Linen to me, (that one should have a black interior).<br>I had a '90 cabliolet, paint to sample, (MBZ #900 surf blue which is like a medium to darker royal blue) with tan leather. It was an AWD (C4). I did not like that car at all and drove very weird compared to all my other 911's.<p>I know Tim (Holt) very well, probably for over 25 years now. He sold my Speed yellow 993 Cab for me (the last Porsche I owned after 30 odd years of owning nearly every model ever built). <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/frown.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: What to do, decisions, desisions..... (JRL)

Wow Jim, I had no idea that you were a Porsche guy! I already had a lot of respect for you, but now damn. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0"> This and the boobs thread, what else do you have up your sleeve? <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>I love Volvos and all too, but what happened? <p>If you say watercooled, I'm going to come over and throw eggs at your house. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"> Big, reliable power = watercooling. Just my opinion. What are your thoughts?
 
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