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Wieght reduction

I searched for this topic so please dont say reference to the search bar.<p>I was wondering if there is a way to put the r on a diet without losing comfort and the spair. I have thought of some: exaust hanggers, lighter rims, smaller windshield reservoir, some of the matting in the back and possibly fabricating a custom exaust (3 inch dp -- into cat in DP -- into resonator -- into 3inch to twin 2.5 splitter -- into magnaflow muffler -- into two twin 2.5 pipes to keep the stock look and hopefully some of the stock sound). but it there anything i can take out to make it feel lighter. <p>if i could get any other suggestions that would be sweet. and please not comment on those 100 hp stickers <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Wieght reduction (p0cket penguins)

cut the roof off and have a carbon fiber roof installed. it will shave off some decent weight and lower the car's center of gravity <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0"><p>of course, you will lose your sunroof (if you have one) and you will have to pray that you don't roll the car.
 

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Re: Wieght reduction (p0cket penguins)

unfortunately, anytime you are going to shave some weight, you are going to lose some factor of safety. its a toss...but good luck to ya! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/biggrin.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Chris,<p>Our 2-piece high performance front brake rotors weigh 6.1lbs less (each) than original . You might also want to consider a lightweight wheels, either OZ Racing or Team Dynamics. With the R, it's easier to reduce the unsprung weight than the sprung weight and still maintain many of the creature comforts. Between the rotors and wheels, you are talking upwards of 50lbs of unsprung weight reduction. <p>You <b>will</b> notice an improvement in your acceleration and handling!
 

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Re: Wieght reduction (phuz)

true but it seems that if the r lost some wieght it would be liek gaining some hp. i was thinking the lining of the trunk or something<br>
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>p0cket penguins</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">true but it seems that if the r lost some wieght it would be liek gaining some hp. i was thinking the lining of the trunk or something<br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>Losing unsprung weight is the first place to look. Unfortunately it is probably the most expensive. But you will notice performance improvements, especially in handling. And as "R" Kelly would tell you, losing wheel mass is like gaining HP (do a search). <p>I am confused as to why you would want to line your trunk. That's only going to add weight! Do you mean line it, then take out the factory lining? That probably would be an even swap at best, and dynamat isn't light...might even gain weight, and have an ugly ass looking trunk to boot.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>needsdecaf</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>I am confused as to why you would want to line your trunk. That's only going to add weight! Do you mean line it, then take out the factory lining? That probably would be an even swap at best, and dynamat isn't light...might even gain weight, and have an ugly ass looking trunk to boot. </TD></TR></TABLE><p>He wants to remove the trunk lining
 

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Exactly... Your reductions in unsprung weight will be just like gaining horsepower. My point was that reducing unsprung weight is easier than reducing sprung weight, but with the same (and better) result.<p><br>If you remove the trunk lining, it would make the interior louder, and hardly weighs anything.<p>Don't remove the spare tire. It is part of the passive safety system in rear-end collisions.<p>Just remember that every time you fill up your gas tank, you are adding another 100lbs of weight over the rear axle <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/smile.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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got it new rims, rotors and 5 gallons at a time. thats quite convienient since race fuel in worchester comes in 5 gallon juggs <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>btw george how much do them 19 wieght, less than the stock 18 inch pegs. casue i saw you man handle them when you showed us them at the gtg. maybe yoru just beast.
 

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Re: Wieght reduction (p0cket penguins)

Here's a ROT Guideline for you....<p>as simulated for the R, you need to loose 400 lbs to get the same effect as adding 50 HP as far as 0-60
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>p0cket penguins</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">got it new rims, rotors and 5 gallons at a time. thats quite convienient since race fuel in worchester comes in 5 gallon juggs <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>btw george how much do them 19 wieght, less than the stock 18 inch pegs. casue i saw you man handle them when you showed us them at the gtg. maybe yoru just beast.</TD></TR></TABLE><p>I will weigh them and let you know...Just need to wax them first. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emthup.gif" BORDER="0">
 

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Re: Wieght reduction (p0cket penguins)

A thread from the past with some good idea's.<br><A HREF="http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=55693" TARGET="_blank">http://forums.swedespeed.com/zerothread?id=55693</A><p>Reducing wheel weight and unsprung weight is somewhat proven, even on this board those people that put on OZ ultraleggera's have reported noticed increased performance. That's only wheels too.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>p0cket penguins</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">got it new rims, rotors and 5 gallons at a time. thats quite convienient since race fuel in worchester comes in 5 gallon juggs <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <br></TD></TR></TABLE><p>You might want to fill up completely from time to time to prevent oxidation from developing in the fuel tank.
 

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why not yank out your seats. put a light weight seat for the driver....<p>that will knock out a lot of weight as the OEM seats are heavy. <p>but like everyone said..you cut weight..you cut something comfy or safety oriented.<p>if you want the car to look/feel like an OEM car in terms of luxury appiontments...you aren't going to shave much weight.....<p>just swap brakes, wheels, and be happy.<p>it's probably cheaper to just bolt on power producing mods than it is to shave of meaningful weight.<p>
 

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Cut the car in half and make it a coupe....you can then tape the rest that you want back using duct tape....<p>There is no real way to lose any <b>significant</b> amount of weight on the R although the seats, spare tire, and lighter rims and brake would help a little bit.... but if your that desperate, do it like NASCAR take out the headlights etc.... you could always place decals that look like headlights.....<p>The "r" is a heavy car if Volvo could have made it lighter without jeopardizing performance or safety dont you think they would have?<p>
 

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for what it is, it is actually light.... a lot of aluminum and plastic... and that is why it is hard to make lighter
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>George @ ViVA</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote"><br>Don't remove the spare tire. It is part of the passive safety system in rear-end collisions.<br></TD></TR></TABLE><br>Hmm, thanks for that, I did not realize that and I have removed my spare... it will go back in tonight!
 

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Re: Wieght reduction (p0cket penguins)

Go on a diet and shed some driver weight <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/tongue.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>On a more serious note, as mentioned already, lighters brakes and wheels are a start. The next thing to do would be to remove sound deadening materials from the trunk and doors. That alone will add up to a decent weight savings, but will make sound quality from the stereo worse and increase ambient noise. Also, as you mentioned, another big area where weight can be shaves is in the exhaust as the stock unit is very heavy.
 

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<TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>Copeland</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">Cut the car in half and make it a coupe....you can then tape the rest that you want back using duct tape....<p>There is no real way to lose any <b>significant</b> amount of weight on the R although the seats, spare tire, and lighter rims and brake would help a little bit.... but if your that desperate, do it like NASCAR take out the headlights etc.... you could always place decals that look like headlights.....<p>The "r" is a heavy car if Volvo could have made it lighter without jeopardizing performance or safety dont you think they would have?</TD></TR></TABLE><p><TABLE WIDTH="90%" CELLSPACING=0 CELLPADDING=0 ALIGN=CENTER><TR><TD><i>Quote, originally posted by <b>JimLill</b> »</i></TD></TR><TR><TD CLASS="quote">for what it is, it is actually light.... a lot of aluminum and plastic... and that is why it is hard to make lighter</TD></TR></TABLE><p>Same thing said, although a bit more nicely. <p>I think we all realize that the R is not a car with a lot of fat. Most of the weight is functional....airbags, AWD, big brakes, big wheels, safety steel, etc. But if you want to loose weight, there are ways. <p>None of them are as cost effecive or as visually attractive as power upgrades, though. Think of what a pair of lightweight racing seats would cost vs. a IPD ECU reprogram. Or a set of Superleggeras and AP racing brakes.<p> <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://www.vwvortex.com/vwbb/eek.gif" BORDER="0">
 
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