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I've had my XC90 for almost 3 weeks now and we just love it. Due to all the bad weather we've had here, the exterior of the car is filthy and loaded with salt and road grime. I have been wanting to hand wash it, but its been in the twenties here, so that was out of the question. I was going to take it to a high end car wash, but I saw in the manual that you shouldn't take it to a car wash for at least 6 months, due to the softness of the paint. My questions are: What have other people been doing, does the dealer wash the car by hand before delivery, or use there car wash and do you really have to wait 6 months before going to a car wash? Any comments appreciated. Thanks
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I've had my XC90 for almost 3 weeks now and we just love it. Due to all the bad weather we've had here, the exterior of the car is filthy and loaded with salt and road grime. I have been wanting to hand wash it, but its been in the twenties here, so that was out of the question. I was going to take it to a high end car wash, but I saw in the manual that you shouldn't take it to a car wash for at least 6 months, due to the softness of the paint. My questions are: What have other people been doing, does the dealer wash the car by hand before delivery, or use there car wash and do you really have to wait 6 months before going to a car wash? Any comments appreciated. Thanks<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>DEFINITELY wash your car! The manual is being over protective 9to cover their butts). Just use either a hand wash or a touchless system.<p>Yannis
 

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i suggest a handwash (but then again im a car care freak) you should be washing at least every week, if its a daily driver, because all that dirt is going to eventually carve its way into your clear coat the longer you leave it there.<p>Use 100% Cotton Chenelle Wash Mitt (leave it soaked and foamy when useing it on your car)<p>for temporary purposes, get a surgical glove/dishwashing glove to cover you hand from the blistering cold... and have a trip to the local pep boys or kragen. <p>Buy a car wash that DOES NOT contain carnuba in it... <br>get a bucket (if you dont have one)<br>Get a chenelle wash mitt (detailer's choice is the company i like)<p>that should get you thru your first car wash.<p>drying your car.. i would suggest 100% USA Cotton towels (CAUTION: do not get your twoels at local auto shops) get the expensive towels from a home interior store that are 100% USA cotton. or in espanol, 100% USA Algodon. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmilep.gif" BORDER="0"> my favorite solution to drying a car is to get a 200MPH+ leaf blower and actually blow dry your car. be careful not to hit the surface, but this is probably the safest method to dry oyur car and not have any sort of twoeling touch the "delicate" surface of your car.<p>BTW.. what color is your car? i can give you a LOT more advice <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmilep.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>Good LUck <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/embeer.gif" BORDER="0"> and WASH THAT CAR ASAP!!!!!!
 

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Thanks for the tips, what other interesting ideas do you have, I'm purchasing either a red or crystal green version? Not buying both, just trying to decide before my lock date which should be soon.<p>please elaborate on the carnuba<p>TIA<p><br>[Modified by webpj, 3:51 PM 1-14-2003]<BR><BR>
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>Thanks for the tips, what other interesting ideas do you have, I'm purchasing either a red or crystal green version?<p>please elaborate on the carnuba<p>TIA<br><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>You're getting TWO xc90s?!?! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmileo.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>the carnuba in car wash soaps proves to do absolutely nothing in terms of protection. <p>if you decide to wax your car...its a slightly different story. Carnuba ok as for wax protection.. but dont get it in your car wash soap, cuz it will just wash off..and is an addtive that as a black car owner would not prefer to have. Clean Car wash soap is simple, gets the job done, and shouldnt wash off too much of your car's factory protectant.<p>i do advise waxxing or even better (zaino-ing) your car soon. its added protection for your car's surface.<p>red and crystal green are lighter colors, so i am guessing it'll be less prone to spiderwebbing and swirls as obviously seen on less cared for black and other darker colored cars.<p>do you intend to wash your car often, and wax often? or do you prefer to wax your car less?<p>if you prefer less.. i'd advise you to go the zaino route. the initial steps may seem a bit teedious.. but the pay off is way better, especially if you grage park. Let me know.. i can show you the path to a shiney future <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmilep.gif" BORDER="0"> hahahah
 

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I'd love to hear about this Zaino concept - my XC90 is Black Sapphire.<br>What do we do about the plastic molding parts - I hate it when wax gets on there and dries.<p>And get this...I hit a deer this morning - two weeks into the car, 425 miles old and...BOOM! Luckily, the only damage seems to be some ripple dents on the two passenger tide doors. The front shows no damage at all - I think the deers butt swung around and hit the side doors, I'm not sure because I had my eyes closed. It's hard to perform the "moose-avoidance-manuver" with your eyes closed. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emhammer.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>We'll see if they can bump them out or if they have to replace the panels - do you have any comments on bumping vs. replacing on a black car?<p>Thanks
 

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GShyneDM, thanks for the info. I definitely need some advice in this area. Any special tips on cleaning and protecting the black plastic trims as well as wheels and tires?<br>
 

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Klasse All-in-One is a great product to use after you've washed and dry your car. I've used it on an Infiniti and my solara and it gives it a nice gloss and silky feel. It's not abrasive and works much easier and better than most wax products out there. I'm planning on using it on the XC90. Anyone got experience with this product. Alot of dealers charges customers hundreds for a one time paint protective-coat job and this is what they use!<p>About Klasse<br>Manufactured in Germany, Klasse products reflect that country's state-of-the-art chemical ingenuity and technology. Klasse has been awarded the most prestigious "Honorary Gold Medal" by the European Association of Inventors and is used and recommended by automobile manufacturers, world renowned auto museums, show-car owners and detailing professionals.<br><BR><BR>
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What a total bummer! <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsad.gif" BORDER="0"> I think you get the honor of being the first to be in an accident with the XC-90 on this forum... Thankfully you are okay, sounds like the damage can be easily fixed.
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>I'd love to hear about this Zaino concept - my XC90 is Black Sapphire.<br>What do we do about the plastic molding parts - I hate it when wax gets on there and dries.<p>And get this...I hit a deer this morning - two weeks into the car, 425 miles old and...BOOM! Luckily, the only damage seems to be some ripple dents on the two passenger tide doors. The front shows no damage at all - I think the deers butt swung around and hit the side doors, I'm not sure because I had my eyes closed. It's hard to perform the "moose-avoidance-manuver" with your eyes closed. <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emhammer.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>We'll see if they can bump them out or if they have to replace the panels - do you have any comments on bumping vs. replacing on a black car?<p>Thanks<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>OUCH!! thats gotta be bad... show me a pic of the damage. <p>amazingly.. despite how hard maintenance can be on Black paint.. it sometimes hides the ugliest flaws too <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmilep.gif" BORDER="0"> <p>dependign on extent of the damage...bump method might be ok.. otherwise.. if you still see crinkles and stuff, and cant live with it.. you might want to replace the whole thing. it really comes down to how much you can mentally hide <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmilep.gif" BORDER="0"><p>the best thing for black molding with wax is to get dawn,water and a very fine soft tooth brush. you can slowly work your way to scrubbin out the wax. however.. this doesnt always work..and im guessing it wont unless the wax is fresh. you can try peanut butter rubbed over the area, you can try a black molding dye...or a tire dressing on it. the oils in the products should help get rid of a lot of the wax..moisten the rubber and make it shiny/restored lookin... <p>im not too sure.. it always depends.. usually.. they eventually fade.. and the old wax mark might show up again. often they dont. its good to keep your plastics regularly dressed with plastic protectant/glossifier. (dont use armorall..bad bad bad) because when you have it there.. the wax comes off easier and doesnt stick. i advise dressing your plastics before waxing.<p>as for zaino.. it rarely sticks to your plastics. ive never had a problem with it.. and i can be as sloppy as i want in terms of application, getting every inch of painted surface covered. but as a precaution.. i still dress the plastics before.. just in case <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmile.gif" BORDER="0"><p>Zaino is really amazing... after the initial steps... Dawn, Clay, Z-1, and then Z-5 or Z-2 (black cars prefer z-5).. its clear sailing for a long time. application requres no strength...no effort really. and the protection last longer than anything ive seen. especially if oyu have a garaged car. of course, with black, you may want to continually apply z-5 (which fills in swirls) due to everyday thin scratches and minor swirls.<p>i was referring to lighter color cars feeling the MOST benefit of zaino. My mom has a green metallic S80. i zainoed it once when the car was new. 6 months later.. washed every 2 weeks.. driven about 20k miles... the protection and shine was still brilliant. did not even need an extra coat of zaino. probably could have gone 3 more months.. if not the rest of the year. with just ONE coat. you'll NEVER see a wax do that.<p>As for my black car.. im zainoing about 3/4 times a year.. and putting 3 coats more or less at a time. ONE.. because im a detail freak..and cant stand scratches or swirls... and TWO..because being parked outside 24/7 takes a big toll on black. I dust the car every day, wash every week with Z-7 Car Wash (zaino) and detail with their Z-6. Using 100% USA Cotton towels.. i get a great shine..and a black car appearance that most black cars dont have.<p>
 

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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:<HR>GShyneDM, thanks for the info. I definitely need some advice in this area. Any special tips on cleaning and protecting the black plastic trims as well as wheels and tires?<br><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><p>wheels and tires.. get a separate sponge. I advise chenelle cloth mitt for your car surface.. and a dogbone sponge for your tires/wheels.<p>its advised to wash your wheels first with a batch of car wash soap water... then wash the rest of your car with FRESH car wash soap water. (using separte buckets) but im not into getting so many things.. so this is my advice.. if you want to save some cash.<p>wash car EARLY morhing.. or late afternoon, when the sun doesnt hit the car hard (shade perhaps). keep the car wet.. dont let the sun dry the water out. wash your car body first..then wash your wheels with the leftover soap water with the dirty sponge... then clean out your bucket when done. the tire sponge is meant to get black.. dont attempt to clean it <IMG NAME="icon" SRC="http://********************/smile/emsmilep.gif" BORDER="0"> i wear surgical gloves when i wash my tires, cuz i hate all the black stuff getting stuck in my finger nails.. you may want to as well.<p>as for your plastics.. i eitehr use my Z-16 Tire Gloss.. or Turtle Wax Black Magic. Mother's Back to Black is good too. just avoid armorall.. its not good for any part of your car.<p>tire dressing is the same thing.. i use z-16 tire gloss.<p>interior, i use vynlex. it lasts a long time, gives a soft shine.. and brings out good color and protection to the interior.<p>leather? check the zaino line.. they got that covered too. their cleaner i use on my white shoes as well.. works wonders! amazing what dirt it can clean off... and then the conditioner is great too, which should be applied every month (if you are a freak like me)
 

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Re: Washing the XC90 (GShyneDM)

Thanks GShyneDM, I am going to see if I can find a local distributor. If not, I will order it directly from Zaino and try it out.
 

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Redwing,<p>For your Black Sapphire, I would look at Blackfire. It's a two step process. Polish and Protectant. Works great on my dark colored car. It takes me 1 1/2 hour tops to do wash, polish and protectant.<p>Here is a picture of my car after using Blackfire.<p> <IMG SRC="http://groups.msn.com/_Secure/0TADiAooWuUl*n50mSrkOEHuTfiJKO*rNB4ZwsOi6WM6oyuvhg6rVYOwro8jQ44u9XFz2jxubJhwvQYyNJzLW5CrKQPnPIzJUGvFB!yJrLQYDUM71TNGUqg/M3-123.jpg?dc=4675405943714285346" BORDER="0">
 

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I got some Zaino from the Ira in southern CA and finally got around to putting it on last weekend. Thanks for all the good tips, GShyneDM. It really is a lot of work the first time (it took me most of the day with the three washes, etc) but I am very happy with the results. BTW, the Z-2 on the wheels really help keep the brake dust from sticking...<p>Thanks for the Zaino recommendation. It almost make me wish I got a darker color so the shine will show up even more...<br>
 
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